Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose to Minnesota and end January with a whimper

Agreed but we see no evidence that they have what it takes to win in the playoffs
That is how I feel right now. Disappointed by it too.

As I said earlier, I guess we need everyone healthy to make a true judgement.

But unless Stolarz is going to be pitching shutouts and 91 and 23 are going to score in every game I don't see how anything ends up different.
 
After games like this they shouldn’t have any players come out and talk to the media, it just reinforces how delusional the entire team is
They need to watch the game tape to see how bad they were
 
How bad was it tonight? I didn’t get to watch

It wasn’t a horrible effort but they couldn’t get much going for a couple of periods. The first goal against was weak; second goal more bad luck. I would say they had maybe 4 legit chances to score in the first two periods (one of which was Willy hitting the post on a partial breakaway). They managed to gain momentum in the 3rd after scoring and for inexplicable reasons, Berube had Holmberg out in the 6 on 5 with about 45 seconds left.
 
I just listened to a guy's yt channel that said Minn's def. center, JEE, was able to play every shift except one against Matthews, when we have last change, and he hit the bar on that one shift. Starting to think Berube is a phony.

Well, that’s on Berube, Matthews and Marner.

If Matthews can’t go power on power with Eriksson Ek for one night in January and come out on top, you have to start wondering if he’s actually a franchise center who can play in a 200 foot matchup or really just a sniping center on the Stamkos trajectory.

If Berube sees his guys aren’t up to the match up and isn’t splitting them apart or line matching, he’s as good as a substitute teacher. Useless.

And Marner. I don’t think anyone even had to cover him with the nonsense he was pulling out there.
 
The end to that game was literally this core in the past 7+ years. High pressure moment, low scoring game, playoff style game. Marner and Matthews making substandard plays and cant step up enough in that moment.

No way anyone will convince me this year is different - 1st round knockout upcoming
They can be different, and they will!
 
Can we trade Marner? Not that I completely want him to go, but this mix of players has shown time and again that it can't get it done consistently. When they're on, our stars look like world beaters. The problem is far too often for whatever reason they're not on all together at the same time and often in games like tonight, almost none of them look like our best players out there with the exception of Nylander who looked moderately dangerous at times.

This is especially true in the playoffs and after seeing so many years of this core together with the same results, you have to change it up. You can't sign Marner to a huge deal and then hope Matthews, Marner and Nylander suddenly click all together in the playoffs when they've shown for so many years that they can't. Trade Marner for the best package you can find or if they refuse to do that then maybe its almost better to let him walk for nothing than to hand him a big contract.

As great a player as he is, with the money you save from not signing him hopefully you can sign some good players to take his place and just change up the chemistry and mix of this team which as much as we wanted them to succeed and have them bring home the cup and be the heros of this city, it hasn't worked out for all these years. The Leafs need major changes or else we'll forever be a 1st or 2nd round and out team.
Marner for Petey
 
He must have spoken to the media by now.
Nothing on Youtube yet. But I did catch a bit of Matthews saying he thought they were okay, but need to do a better job getting inside when attacking. Said they had some chances that just didn't go in. Same old drivel. So, pretty sure they feel good about their game. Couple posts, couple chances, you know, nothing to worry about.
 
I don't get how anyone can watch this season and come to the conclusion that we have to re-sign Marner.

This team is clearly flawed. Two of our core 3 are already signed to multi-year extensions. The only changes you can realistically make at this point is getting rid of Marner and/or Tavares.

The problem with this team is they've done nothing and now don't want to do the nuclear option (getting rid of Marner) because they've tried nothing. Maybe the core 4 could have worked if we assembled some better defence and goaltending around them, but it's too late to find out. Re-signing Marner at this point will likely guarantee this is the core until they all retire. Tavares can stay at the right price as his cap hit should be significantly reduced and we have zero centre depth. Marner can stay too if he's willing to take a discount to his current cap hit - but he won't.
 
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4-0 Oilers on Saturday

Klingberg Brown Kapanen and Hyman with the goals. Pikard with the shutout.
Could be. If the Leafs play like they have over the past three games, there is little chance they win.

Question is, which core shows up? More importantly, will Marner be buzzing or bumbling? He drives this team success, I see it more clearly than ever. No wonder the man's brain is always in shambles, he damn well knows it too!
 
Well, that’s on Berube, Matthews and Marner.

If Matthews can’t go power on power with Eriksson Ek for one night in January and come out on top, you have to start wondering if he’s actually a franchise center who can play in a 200 foot matchup or really just a sniping center on the Stamkos trajectory.

If Berube sees his guys aren’t up to the match up and isn’t splitting them apart or line matching, he’s as good as a substitute teacher. Useless.

And Marner. I don’t think anyone even had to cover him with the nonsense he was pulling out there.
They play post season style of hockey.
Montreal neutered Matthews and marner in the playoffs.
There doesn't appear to be a cheat mode for Matthews, like there is for McDavid.
 
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