Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose. Thornton on the first PP unit. Weak. Nice work keefe. Do better.

[BertCorbeau]

Price saved the game on the Nylander-Marner one timer, that’s for damn sure

Habs did well to come out strong and protect Price early to get into the game.

A confident Price is bad news for the Leafs. He can steal this series. And we saw what hit goaltending did for Columbus last year.

Another reason tonight why I just feel the Habs will win the series… until the Leafs prove they can get it done, it’s hard to pick them.

Still can’t stand the thought of dealing with. Habs series win though, f***ing awful feeling.

 

[Cpt Maple Leaf]

We suck. See you next year. That will be the year

 

[Gallagbi]

Nobody here should be able to say they felt the Habs were the better team tonight.

Just need to fix this absolutely bizarre Pap issue

Honestly didn't feel like any team was clearly better and that's the concern.

 

[Leaf4Life]

Know who wouldn't have Thornton/spezza loyalty?

Babcock had Marleau loyalty, so why not Thornton?

 

[mikemar1]

I thought I'd care more that they lost

 

[IrishInOntario]

I understand that very clearly. You should also understand the PP actually generated good scoring chances, barely missing. There's a big difference between a shit powerplay and one that just couldn't convert. When we stop creating chances is when you should be worried about it. Just keep Thornton off the PP.

Also need to get more bodies in front of Price.

Chance generation is what losing teams talk about because they didn't execute well enough to put up the only offense that matters... Points.

There is nothing worse than a team that consistantly "almost" does something.

Horseshoes and hand grenades... You either show some class and execute when it matters, or you go home early.

There is no in between.

 

[Stephen]

Not all skill players are built equally. Matthews won’t ever be Mackinnon and Marner won’t be Point. That doesn’t mean they can’t and won’t be effective. Matthews was far and away our best player against Columbus last year, and to me he did battle. I’d agree that Marner could have been better, but I don’t think we should be alarmed at these two quite yet.

We know these are going to be tightly checked games with not a lot of scoring. Certainly not with Price being Price.

We need the guys lower in the lineup to either produce, or play no event hockey. Thornton, as an example, was a catalyst in two goals against, and he doesn’t create anything offensively. That’s a problem to me when he gets important minutes.

I’d like to see an injection of some life into the bottom six. We need to give Montreal more to deal with in their own zone than just Matthews and Marner.

I just don’t think they elevated. They didn’t produce and do the extras needed to get there beyond what they’re typically expected to and were shut down. They both had some chances and a game of inches being what it is all those missing elements can be excused and we wouldn’t be down 1-0.

 

[PromisedLand]

Know who wouldn't have Thornton/spezza loyalty?

What about Marleau?

 

[wingman75]

Thornton gotta be benched. He caused both goals.

Geez... yea... I forgot for a moment how that first goal against came to be. What a terrible game from him... first one was a poor decision, the Kerfoot drop pass was the right play there, no need to force anything.
The second one was just an old guy with no time and space, he got overwhelmed.

1st one is on him, poor decision when not under any real pressure.
2nd on is on the coach for putting him a position where he cannot succeeed... yes Joe owns it, but he never should have been out there.

I still don't think they can take him out. He just needs to play his 4th line minutes and nothing more, no matter what the situation or circumstance.

 

[Leafsdude7]

Clear for what? I am no doctor. Internal bleeding, broken jaw?

I don't see how he didn't have a concussion. Would be great news for him if it wasn't as bad as it looked.

Non-doctor here as well. One would assume "tests are clear" mean no serious problems found, ie: broken/bruised neck/back, no brain swelling, etc.

 

[Sypher04]

Not Montreal's physicality. Toronto's lack thereof. Our players are so afraid to take hits that they would rather dump the puck over the glass and take a penalty

Yeah, that's simply not true. Either part. The leafs actually threw the body quite a bit tonight, and willing absorbed checks to make plays. The first puck over the glass, was a highly questionable call and had nothing to do with pressure from Montreal, Marner's was another play where he wasn't lined up to be hit, he was just trying to chip it off the glass and out, and Nylander's was a backhand, sure under pressure, that he got a little too much under. Even if you put that aside, and look at all those plays as the result of Montreal pressure, not a single one resulted in a powerplay goal, so there is no correlating that with the loss.

We lost because Thornton handled the puck like a grenade at the point on our pp and Sandin, for all he does well, isn't very good defensively

 

[Cpt Maple Leaf]

Simmonds and Joe not bringing much to the table.

Insert more talent into the lineup.

Simmonds f***ing sucks.

 

[Chief Berube]

how else do you explain it?

Delusional people like "Dekes for Days" and "zeke" told us this team is actually great and we just got unlukcy...not once , not twice, not three times, but four times in a row.

I wonder when these emotioanlly charged kids will come around and realize getting this high off of regular season success is a waste of their health and energy and actually wait for the team to accomplish something in the post-season before going from seeing 3-4 first round failures to projecting the team to win the stanley cup. Delusionally "positive" people who are simply just lacking in other areas in life and this is how they cope just suck the life out of all discussions and this forum

Who the F$&@ if that guy???

Stay in your lane. Don’t disrespect those who have helped build and keep this forum what it is.

 

[Superstar]

So disappointing...waited this long for the playoffs to start and we get a game 1 like this...hope Tavares is okay, but we can't win the Cup without him.

 

[socko]

Clear for what? I am no doctor. Internal bleeding, broken jaw?

I don't see how he didn't have a concussion. Would be great news for him if it wasn't as bad as it looked.

X-rays are usually the first tests. So likely yes, negative on the broken jaw.
He definitely has a concussion.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Babcock had Marleau loyalty, so why not Thornton?

Babcock recruited Marleau, not Thornton or Spezza.

 

[fahad203]

Geez... yea... I forgot for a moment how that first goal against came to be. What a terrible game from him... first one was a poor decision, the Kerfoot drop pass was the right play there, no need to force anything.
The second one was just an old guy with no time and space, he got overwhelmed.

1st one is on him, poor decision when not under any real pressure.
2nd on is on the coach for putting him a position where he cannot succeeed... yes Joe owns it, but he never should have been out there.

I still don't think they can take him out. He just needs to play his 4th line minutes and nothing more, no matter what the situation or circumstance.

The reason he plays more because our bottom 6 cannot generate chances or offense
MIkaheyev is trash
Simmonds Trash
Kerfoot, 50/50
Joe, sometimes

Gally has size and speed. Has scored in this league
Engvall has size and speed. Can score
Brooks has shown more promise than Simmonds

God I had Simmonds

 

[MoreMogilny]

I just don’t think they elevated. They didn’t produce and do the extras needed to get there beyond what they’re typically expected to and were shut down. They both had some chances and a game of inches being what it is all those missing elements can be excused and we wouldn’t be down 1-0.

I do think they’ll make their mark in this series. If the Leafs cannot make a battle of it then we absolutely don’t have the right approach.

Interested to see the direction Keefe takes going into game 2.

 

[Cpt Maple Leaf]

With or without Tavares, this team just isn't very good offensively. I'll never understand why Nash was playing over Galchenyuk or why Dubas picked Foligno over Hall

NAsh is terrible. Dumbass Dubas. Put Gally in already.

 

[Kurtz]

Thanks. I guess we saw the game a little differently. No doubt the first they were in shock, and played like it. Could not have a worse period.

I thought we dominated the 2nd with generally no results gained. And once again had amply opportunity to TAKE the game but never did.

So what happens when the Habs have a good game? They steamroll us... because they just beat us and were hot garbage.

Again, I love your confidence. I am generally a very optimistic person... except when it comes to the Leafs. Until they show me the can do it, I don't believe they can. #nofaith And that kills me to admit.

I'm not worried about Mtl playing much better than they did because they simply don't have the talent for it. What they gave us tonight is what we can expect for the rest of the series. I suppose Price can steal a game, but they don't have the talent to do much better than they did tonight.

We, on the other hand, can be much better than we showed tonight.

 

[MSZ]

What about Marleau?

Patrick? He is a gudpro.

 

[PromisedLand]

With or without Tavares, this team just isn't very good offensively. I'll never understand why Nash was playing over Galchenyuk or why Dubas picked Foligno over Hall

3 11 million dollar forwards and people bitch about "this team isn't very good offensively"


I dont think majority of the people that post on the Leafs board ever watch other teams play

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

We lost because Thornton handled the puck like a grenade at the point at the point on our pp and Sandin, for all he does well, isn't very good defensively

Let's blame our two minimum wage players for the fact that we couldn't get more than 1 good scoring chance on Price in the entire 3rd period. Maybe Marner should aim for something other than the crest on the goalie's chest

 

[Stonehands1990]

Why did we even sign Thornton.

He was awful for us all year. Could have at least gotten a physical player with his spot.

Clifford for 250k more

Clifford-Nash-Simmons

 

[Gallagbi]

This team really does need to change the narrative and get out ahead of playoff games. That was a big issue last year vs. CLB and tonight

Were a much different team in the lead than coming from behind.