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To be fair, the Hughes and Hischer deals were huge gambles that paid off. They overpaid them while they were average, and they have lived up to and exceed those expectations.
Hard to compare those contracts to Matthews and Marner who were 40+ G and 90 + P players when their ELCs were up to Hischer and Hughes were similar players to Nylander around the same age.
Hughes was signed 8x8 after this
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Hischer was signed 7x7 after this
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Not discounting or disregarding what you have posted but one has to take context into account IMO
some context at least what I think may be relevant
- McDavid, Eichel, Draisaitl all had 8 year deals
- Except perhaps Aho (canes decent cap hit too btw) and may be Barzal (birdge deal) everyone else signed long term 7 or 8 year deals. Matthews and Marner deals were not only heavily inflated but the term also was not there.
- note: both Aho and Barzal signed after matthews/marner
- Rantanen signed after matthews/marner deal too but longer term and decent caphit
Now in terms of how IMO teams should look to sign deals
- Devils did not have someone already taking massive cap on their cap structure (like we do with JT)
- I agree that Hischier and Hughes deals could have been construed as gambles but they were the core peices with no one else taking massive cap on their team
- Devils also made a play to get #1D in dougie hamilton. They had also tried to stabalize their D with Subban which obviously didn't work out as they wanted; BUT... their future isn't screwed they have decent young core and they can only build from now on
- The culture on that team is "work ethic" where logo means more than the name on the back. And they are going to be better for it.
- Leafs already had Tavares with 11 AAV on their team when they gave those offers to Matthews and Marner. Not only did they overpay they did not even get term
- What does that mean?
- Matthews and Nylander are pending UFAs in a year with NTC kicking in July 2023.
- Leafs have had no playoff sucess
- Looks like a failed rebuild IMO
- Why? -> incompetent president/gm/coach
- Context IMO if Devils had signed the Hughes and Hishier deals when they had someone already on their cap taking massive cap space that would have been complete stupidity but they didn't; we did and we did not even get term.
Matthews and Marner NTC kicks in July 2023 even though Marner's contract doesn't end till 2025. not only did they get the money they wanted and term they wanted they also got conditions heck Marner's NTC kicking in same time as Matthews is absolute madness IMO and I am not even looking at thier cap hits and term
Leafs have been playing magic 8 ball bingo with their bottom 6, defense and goalie situation. All because there isn't any cap left for quality; just enough for quantity i.e. get bodies on the team.
This IMO is poor planning and execution from management's pov meanwhile the gm has thrown away draft picks for 1st round exits. I could go on and on about the incompetence of management (including coaching). I ticks me off because closer we move towards the end of Matthews' contract more and more it looks like a completely failed rebuild. And all of this hangs on primarily on shanahan and dubas
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