I wish we could bring back 2003-04 Gary Roberts to this team. Need more guys like him on this team, He'd play a full 60 mins and wouldnt screw around. Got too many snowflakes on this team.
We didn't get thoroughly outplayed, and we didn't have a 4-0 lead. Also, nobody is blaming everything on the goalie, but he did not play very well last night, and that's on him. And as good as Andersen might have played before that, it's just a fact that he is being outplayed by the opposing goaltender over this series.
It seems that some expect 60 minutes of full non-stop domination where the other team gets zero chances. That's not realistic. Columbus pushed back, like all teams do. That shouldn't instantly mean 4 goals against. That doesn't mean weak goals from halfway up the side boards. The team in front of Andersen played well enough for the win last night.
You mean the one-timer shot from the face-off dot that hit a stick and barely trickled through? Even if we count that as a "bad goal", that's the only one that could be remotely considered that. The rest of the goals he has allowed are:
1. Deflection in the slot from Matthews.
2. Breakaway by Tavares.
3. Deflection off defender standing in front.
4. Nylander on the PP alone in front, with a nice deke.
This while Columbus' goalies have faced more and better shots/chances than Andersen. The goaltending for Columbus is saving the goals they shouldn't, and they aren't letting in the bad goals that Andersen is, and as much as you want to blame everybody else, and as well as Andersen has played outside of that, that's the difference in the series right now.
You win the cup by winning series. St. Louis got 7 of their 8 divisional playoff wins by 1 goal. Regardless of fault/blame, who played well earlier in the game, who made mistakes leading to chances, who made a big save in the second, if Binnington let's in 1 or 2 more 50/50 in the 3rd/OT a championship quality team is out in the 1st round It's not his fault per se, but it's the difference between 1st round exit and cup. This is the 3rd straight year where it's looking like Freddy doesn't have that 1-2 extra 50/50 saves when we need them the most. In a cap world we're never going to be good enough to not need those saves, because no one is.
But, what we say about the capitals/blues as teams applies to goalies as well. You're a loser that can't win until you do. Here's hoping that Freddy shows that he can, and the rest of the team follows his lead.
Only difference is that media isn't carving him. And reason for that is because he was hired by Dubas. Dubas who they support, because he is best friends with James Mirtle.
I wish we could bring back 2003-04 Gary Roberts to this team. Need more guys like him on this team, He'd play a full 60 mins and wouldnt screw around. Got too many snowflakes on this team.
You can't think those breakways are the same, can you? Ones for back pressure limiting options and no cut potential. The other is all alone from the far Blueline inSo Tavares scores on a breakaway and it's not on the goalie but PLD scores on a breakaway and Andersen is the reason we lost. Got it.
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Are you really, really mad at Marner for wearing a 400$ shirt ? really ?It has been 4 years now. Not sure these kids are getting anything but bigger bank accounts and too much Gucci.
Goalie plays amazing, has a .948 SV% and you point to a breakaway that should never have been allowed in the first place and blame the goalie.
You're a very good poster IMO, I find myself agreeing with you most of the time but we're not even close on this one. Respectfully, agree to disagree, I don't think there's much else to say here.
On the other hand, Kerfoot was just fantastic on our 1st goal. This was a team loss, plenty of blame to go around.
I find it interesting that Keefe is kind of giving the same vibes that Babcock did; how long till Dubas' ego gets hurt again and Keefe is on his way out too?
Do we think he's outplayed the guy at the other end in any game this playoff?He did not have a .948 SV% last night. One game's saves can't win the next.
And again, it's not "blaming the goalie", it's recognizing that he's just as guilty as the rest of the team for not coming up big when it matters, which is concerning because if they "figure it out" and he doesn't we're not winning squat.
Wouldn’t surprise me if there were just some uncoachable players in that room. When I watch certain high priced young core players it’s like they’re doing whatever they want out there.
Well, first off, their "breakaways" weren't remotely close to the same. Tavares was in all alone. Dubois had pressure from behind that forced him to the backhand. Tavares is also a better player/goal-scorer than Dubois. On equal goaltending, that Tavares goal happens more often than the Dubois goal.So Tavares scores on a breakaway and it's not on the goalie but PLD scores on a breakaway and Andersen is the reason we lost.
You can't think those breakways are the same, can you? Ones for back pressure limiting options and no cut potential. The other is all alone from the far Blueline in
He did not have a .948 SV% last night. One game's saves can't win the next.
And again, it's not "blaming the goalie", it's recognizing that he's just as guilty as the rest of the team for not coming up big when it matters, which is concerning because if they "figure it out" and he doesn't we're not winning squat.
Well, first off, their "breakaways" weren't remotely close to the same. Tavares was in all alone. Dubois had pressure from behind that forced him to the backhand. Tavares is also a better player/goal-scorer than Dubois. On equal goaltending, that Tavares goal happens more often than the Dubois goal.
That said, I didn't actually say anything about the OT goal. That was far from the only goal, or the worst goal Andersen allowed last night. Not sure why you're replying to me if you're just going to ignore everything I say and make up some strawman.
100%. Andersen is the reason this team loses. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, he has one brilliant game out of every 10 to 15 games. Other than that, he is absolutely terrible.Andersen has always been a flop. He costed us game 1 and folded like a cheap tent in game 3.
Oh Gary, you know in your heart exactly how this will likely play out.I think we still have a chance, I'm not saying I'm optimistic though. Far from it TBH.
Yeah. That’s not on Andersen. But PLD proved he’s way more talented than Tavares and is at same tier as Mathews already. Let’s not even compare our smurf Marner or hair model Willy. PLD is the real deal.So Tavares scores on a breakaway and it's not on the goalie but PLD scores on a breakaway and Andersen is the reason we lost. Got it.
Goalie plays amazing, has a .948 SV% and you point to a breakaway that should never have been allowed in the first place and blame the goalie.
You're a very good poster IMO, I find myself agreeing with you most of the time but we're not even close on this one. Respectfully, agree to disagree, I don't think there's much else to say here.
They were both terrible. Turnovers and bad decisions all over the ice, especially in the 3rd period when they’re trying to close out a game. They can’t happen but they always do, and that’s why the Leafs always seem to come up on the wrong end of these games.Imagine watching the game and then posting this.
Barrie and Ceci were the best D last night and Rielly costs us the game on a needless pinch that had no positive potential
The left side was atrocious last night and they're All back next year even if Marincin is 7th D
One was a much better chance than the other, and you attempted to equate them as part of your strawman argument that had nothing to do with what I said.Like I said in my previous post, no two breakaways are the same but they were both grade A chances.
Andersen has played well this series, just like the rest of the team. Columbus goalies have played better this series, and Andersen did not play well last night, which is the primary reason we are down 2-1 despite being the better team in 2 out of the 3 games.Andersen's played really well, wish I could say the same for everyone else.
100%. Andersen is the reason this team loses. I have said it before and I’ll say it again, he has one brilliant game out of every 10 to 15 games. Other than that, he is absolutely terrible.
The reason the leafs are losing this series right now, is because Frederick Andersen is being out of goaltended by the Columbus goaltenders. I am tired of people masking it. Even the goal in overtime last night, he left the entire glove side of the net open. PLD Literally skated in from the blue line with the puck on his back hand and just shot it into the open net.
This team will never win with Andersen. Simple as that.
A 3-0 lead going into the 3rd period is enough to win any game! Your goalie has to make a damn save!!!!
Oh Gary, you know in your heart exactly how this will likely play out.
Yeah. That’s not on Andersen. But PLD proved he’s way more talented than Tavares and is at same tier as Mathews already. Let’s not even compare our smurf Marner or hair model Willy. PLD is the real deal.
Tavares is a better player than Dubois. One good game for Dubois doesn't change that.Tell that to the poster who said Tavares is better than PLD, Dekes something something I think it was.
One was a much better chance than the other, and you attempted to equate them as part of your strawman argument that had nothing to do with what I said.
Andersen has played well this series, just like the rest of the team. Columbus goalies have played better this series, and Andersen did not play well last night, which is the primary reason we are down 2-1 despite being the better team in 2 out of the 3 games.