Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 4-3 in OT | Lead Series 3-1

[Donnie740]

 

[Donnie740]

Well, Pacioretty sure as shit isn't either. Especially when he's paired with an idiot and a guy who's snake bitten.

Agree 100% “Patches” was terrible tonight.

Even though some people love his cute little nickname, he needs to sit in game 5.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Weird penalty by Domi.

Mitch gets caught flat-footed at the blueline and somebody is so desperate to excuse him that they have to try to blame Nylander for losing a 1-on-2 board battle.

Leafs RW makes a great pass to his C that the goalie never saw, for an easy goal. Where have I heard that recently? The big difference being that lots of posters praised JT's easy tip-in with nothing about the pass until the broadcast crew pointed it out

Great hustle and play by Knies, especially after being hemmed in our zone for the whole shift.

Another great pass by Nylander and a great read by OEL to get in position.

How did they not call that elbow on JT? Hope he's ok.

Crappy ending. Stolarz had an off game, but it shouldn't have got to that point.

 

[leafsfan5]

Please, just win game 5. Leafs fans have been through enough pain.

lose game 5 and the MTL PTSD will be too much for me

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Suckators fans think that because people are melting down here the team is imploding, the series is over, and they've got it in the bag. Because apparently random nobodies shooting their mouths off on the internet somehow translates to the team's play on the ice.

Not at all surprised that kind of stupidity would come out of Ottawa..................

They are the most revolting Canadians I find. They love their bonds of servitude. An arrogant and entitled class of people.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

You can have good things, Leafs core. You really can. I know you feel like you can't. But it's OK. Go for it. If you do, you just might realize that you like it waayyyy better than the last decade... so why not, right..? Change it.

That said, you've been so in your heads for so long - that you let the moment of expectation bury you again during that 4 min PP. You were paralyzed into robotic stillness. All too familiar. We all knew it wasn't gonna go in there, becuz except for Knies - none of these guys will just go out and get it. And without JT, which one of you have ever scored a big goal..? None of you.

Just, y'know... don't be afraid of your own shadow, for a change.. you're allowed to have good things, Leafs core.... You're the infinitely better team.. you just gotta, y'know.. go out - and get it.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Agree 100% “Patches” was terrible tonight.

Even though some people love his cute little nickname, he needs to sit in game 5.

PatioReady is also one of his nicknames...

That one is more fitting right now.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Oh, I know that they will start him. But he hasn't been good. It's not so much the numbers (although they were awful today), he has just developed this pattern of allowing goals at terrible times when the Leafs have completely locked down the game defensively. That shorthanded goal was brutal. That overtime goal was brutal. He lost them the game tonight, single-handedly.

What do you mean he hasn't been good?

Coming into game 4 he hadn't allowed more than 2 and he had a 926 save%.

I'm not going to tell you he was good in game 4 he wasn't.

But to say he wasn't good up until this point simply isn't true.

 

[Donnie740]

Novice fans and casual observers won’t realize that Toronto played a very good game after the opening 15mins tonight.

Leafs were totally dominating the 4min power play and did literally everything but score.

They didn’t need Stolarz to singlehandedly win the game tonight - - they just needed him to be reasonably competent. Instead, Stolarz was as bad as Jumpin’ Jack Campbell, Fredo Andersen and SamsonSieve have been.

Fortunately, Toronto has a good coach - - unlike the previous half decade - - and a roster with some hockey players on it, so the collapse that some Leaf “fans” are desperately hoping for isn’t going to happen.

 

[Donnie740]

PatioReady is also one of his nicknames...

That one is more fitting right now.

That’s certainly more apropos.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Patches needs to go. He had nothing, exactly what his final 20 or so games had, some checks but no real plays.

McMann showed up, imagine if Patches did too.

Kampf in or Robbie next game... on Tuesday!?

If any changes are made I'd put Kampf in. The PK is 7 for 10 or something it needs help.

 

[NastyKnies]

Suckators fans think that because people are melting down here the team is imploding, the series is over, and they've got it in the bag. Because apparently random nobodies shooting their mouths off on the internet somehow translates to the team's play on the ice.

Not at all surprised that kind of stupidity would come out of Ottawa..................

Its mostly Ottawa shooting their mouths off ATM wich comes with the territory. i got flamed just for responding, let them have there one night fun.

 

[Torontonian]

Would have been nice to get the sweep in Ottawa but let's be real, no one thought Toronto would have been sweeping this series... Toronto leaving 1 & 1 on the road is still the only job they needed to do.

Thought the powerplay in OT looked off without JT in the middle of the ice, a lot of the times when Ottawa cheats playing towards Matthews - Nylander on the flanks, JT has been the one receiving the puck in the middle.

Also need more from the bottom 6, haven't mind the 4th line of Lorentz - Laughton - Jankrok, but the 3rd line of McMann - Domi - Patches/Robertson hasn't been good. Generating very little, getting hemmed in their zone.. If Toronto can close out the series, that's going to be their achilies heel going forward.

 

[NastyKnies]

People always harp on the goaltending. Why not just admit the way this team is built is flawed?

Ottawa had like 4 shots through 2 periods. this team is fine

 

[KAWAIlllI]

Weird penalty by Domi.

Mitch gets caught flat-footed at the blueline and somebody is so desperate that they gave to try to blame Nylander for losing a 1-on-2 board battle.

Leafs RW makes a great pass to his C that the goalie never saw, for an easy goal. Where have I heard that recently? The big difference being that lots of posters praised JT's easy tip-in with nothing about the pass.

Great hustle and play by Knies, especially after being hemmed in our zone for the whole shift.

Another great pass by Nylander and a great read by OEL to get in position.

How did they not call that elbow on JT? Hope he's ok.

Crappy ending. Stolarz had an off game, but it shouldn't have got to that point.

Yeah, I was curious about that. Having no beef in this fight (sens n leafs) I was curious about how the Leafs “core” are perceived this season. I’ve mainly seen extended highlights though.

From what I could tell from tonight’s game, it seemed like Nylander created 2 goals from nothing but I’ve mainly read how lackluster his performance has been all series, and he needs to step up. Why’s that? I noticed that the NHL gifted Marner another assist, but he had a pretty bad game, together with Matthews, no?

 

[M21]

The poor 4 minute PP cost the team the win. They looked nervous and tentative, like Leaf teams of the past. Never able to close it out. Their play in the defensive zone tonight was terrible and they got hemmed in for minutes on end chasing the puck. Increase the sense of urgency and they will win the series. Play like last night and they may not. They have 3 games to erase the failures of the last many years.

 

[ashs]

I'd bring in Robertson. I'd also bring in reavo as they have been taking liberties against us.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Well 4 games in and JT has just as many goals as Mathews, Marner and William combined. The 3 musketeers have to pick it up.

True. Willy has set JT up for some beauties, but he's been snake bitten himself. Matty's had his chances too.

 

[Antropovsky]

Stolarz looked shaky all night. Kept losing his net. Fireable offence to have Rielly on the 1st PP at this point, should’ve been OEL.

Can Auston Matthews ever just pick a corner when it really matters?

Ive said it often all season... Stolarz isnt as positionally sound like Woll or control rebounds like Woll. Hes an upgrade on Samsonov though.

Woll keeps getting overlooked, hopefully he doesnt demand a trade.

 

[Antropovsky]

Well 4 games in and JT has just as many goals as Mathews, Marner and William combined. The 3 musketeers have to pick it up.

Another year that Marner and Matthews combo 25 million tandem just arent getting it done 5v5. Nylander had as many shots as Matthews and Marner combined.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Yeah, I was curious about that. Having no beef in this fight (sens n leafs) I was curious about how the Leafs “core” are perceived this season. I’ve mainly seen extended highlights though.

From what I could tell from tonight’s game, it seemed like Nylander created 2 goals from nothing but I’ve mainly read how lackluster his performance has been all series, and he needs to step up. Why’s that? I noticed that the NHL gifted Marner another assist, but he had a pretty bad game, together with Matthews, no?

If you read a lot of the threads here you'll see that the same posters who are always complaining about Nylander's lack of effort and the same ones praising anything Marner does. I've never understood the need.

 

[M21]

Another year that Marner and Matthews combo 25 million tandem just arent getting it done 5v5. Nylander had as many shots as Matthews and Marner combined.

Marner has 7 points in 4 games. Not bad at all. Matthews has produced very little and looks like he is not 100%. Makes it difficult for the line to produce 5 on 5 with the big guy not able to give his best. Not an excuse. Just what it looks like. And all agree the third line is a train wreck. Pacioretti too slow. Domi doesn’t know how to play defence. And McMann lost out there. But with all that said they will still win the series.

 

[Mr_Fun]

My only real complaint is that I wish these guys would take more of a "we're behind a goal" attitude on the PP, especially that one in OT. Sure, they did have some good looks; AM hit the post - but they do whittle down a lot of the time looking for the perfect play. TBF, it likely had a better chance of success with JT out there for some of that OT PP.

Also, I doubt the dude who elbowed JT in the chops gets a suspension as he likely had enough plausible deniability on the play.

Lastly, let's not be at each others throats here in the comments section(s). We're all passionate, but opinions aren't facts.

 

[Rare Jewel]

That’s certainly more apropos.

Indeed. Needs to be better.

 

[Mr_Fun]

If you read a lot of the threads here you'll see that the same posters who are always complaining about Nylander's lack of effort and the same ones praising anything Marner does. I've never understood the need.

I thought overall, Willy had a good night. Two big assists. On the short handed goal, he probably should have gotten into the play a little faster, Marner should have made a better read, and we'd all like a save there for Stolarz.