Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 4-2

[notbias]

Keep making excuses for the core players. 0 for 5 on the pp, what do you want Samsonov to do about that? Swayman is good but he is not prime Patrick Roy. Find a way to beat him.

Can you point out where in my post I am making excuses?

I'll save you some time, you won't be able to find it.

 

[Evilhomer]

I am still scratching my head why people blaming the goaltending last night. Only allowed 3 goals + an empty netter. Sammy made big saves too. What do you want him to do? Leafs also went 0 for 5 on the PP, how is that on the goaltending? Swayman is not prime Patrick Roy either.

Samsonov was fine. He should keep the net for game 4, especially since Boston will likely go back to Ullmark.

 

[Nineteen67]

Did not like the first goal on samsonov at all. You cannot allow that goal in a playoff game where games are tighter. That said, I though aside from that he played good game. The problem is the guy at the other end played still significantly better. Thats just facts.

Special teams are our biggest problem right now though. We can and did get back the softie Sammy allowed, but the PP is sputtering and the PK can’t keep the puck out of our net.

Bad goals, slow D, inability for the D to make a pass up the ice, the PP, the PK, coaching, and some forwards that can’t compete in these types of games.

 

[rumman]

Not many options to change things up, but I would try Brodie/Timmins in and Lyubushkin/Liljegren out.

Recipe for disaster……..

 

[Tak7]

I find at times you can feel the nerves of the fanbase in the building, it's almost like the building is holding it's breath.

Think that's part of it, for sure.

But this general sense of 'entertain me, then I'll make some noise' is nuts to me. Just a complete lack of wanting to get themselves involved in the atmosphere and helping the team - the fans have a roll to play here, too

 

[rumman]

Samsonov was fine. He should keep the net for game 4, especially since Boston will likely go back to Ullmark.

You really think they’ll go back to Ullmark?

 

[Gallagbi]

I find at times you can feel the nerves of the fanbase in the building, it's almost like the building is holding it's breath.

It's a nervous crowd. Makes sense given they allowed a goal while heckling Swayman to make it 1-1, then lost the tie while the goal was still being announced

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Talking about the refs is silly. The Leafs had 5 PPs and didn't score on any of them plus gave up 2 goals on the PK. Even on the play where Matthews was tackled then Bertuzzi tripped, all Samsonov had to do was be even close to in position and it's a non-issue. The Leafs lost that game all on their own.

 

[leafs in five]

the first goal can never go in but also we should have been on a PP and play should have been called dead but it's the playoffs

 

[Al14]

Talk McDavid into coming to Toronto?

He will get tackled to the ice, with NO PENALTY being called, just like our American born Matthews was last night.

The main focus of the NHL is to appease and gain MORE fans for their American based teams.

There HAS NOT been a Canadian team winning the SC for over 30 years for a reason.

 

[CincoHolio]

He cost goal #3 the GWG

Way to soft, bad IQ and turnover prone with no offense

He is game 7 Gardiner every night with no special skating or passing skills

I said in another thread - Liljegren is about as vanilla a defender that's out there. Absolutely 0 skills/characteristics that stand out. Would rather have Brodie in than him, tbh and I'm about done with Brodie too.

 

[ACC1224]

Think that's part of it, for sure.

But this general sense of 'entertain me, then I'll make some noise' is nuts to me. Just a complete lack of wanting to get themselves involved in the atmosphere and helping the team - the fans have a roll to play here, too

I don't think it's all that different from other buildings. Most are loud coming out of commercial breaks and then are reactionary as the play goes on.
Just opinion and by no means saying it couldn't be better.

 

[rumman]

It's still the same shit every year. It's actually pathetic how bad this group is at home during the playoffs. Shouldn't even bother playing at home anymore.

Quebec’s looking for a team, so is Houston…….

 

[fahad203]

Team played fine. Mistakes will be made. That PP and PK though is what is killing this team.

If the goalie didn't make the saves, we didn't get PP working and PK wasn't working, did we play fine?

There's more to it in a game than just effort.

We out hit them, out worked them in many areas. No doubt.
But to me, we always seemed to be one mistake away in every game

 

[Jojalu]

You really think they’ll go back to Ullmark?

In Game 4 yes.

If they lose, that will be the end of him for this series.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Team played fine. Mistakes will be made. That PP and PK though is what is killing this team.

Actually the team played on the PK and PP.

So no.

Your statement is incorrect.

 

[ACC1224]

He will get tackled to the ice, with NO PENALTY being called, just like our American born Matthews was last night.

The main focus of the NHL is to appease and gain MORE fans for their American based teams.

There HAS NOT been a Canadian team winning the SC for over 30 years for a reason.

Leafs had 5 pps to Bostons 3.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

the first goal can never go in but also we should have been on a PP and play should have been called dead but it's the playoffs

The second goal was just as bad ....

McCabe abandons the net on the PK .. Is Kampf covering the net appropriately here ?

Jake DeBrusk (3) PPG A: B. Marchand (4), C. Coyle (1) Is Kampf playing this well ? 3 Leafs entirely along the wall. And what miracle does Marchand get a perfect pass from this scrum. Kampf doing nothing, in no man's land. 12 feet from an open Bruins player

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[Nineteen67]

Lots to unpack from last night, but as someone who was in the building and has the privilege of going to a lot of these home playoff games - last night's atmosphere was shocking.

I can't believe we all spent a few days watching Jets, Canucks, and Edmonton fans turn their buildings into cauldrons of noise, atmosphere, and intimidation, and we as a fanbase mustered up... that?

Large stretches where that place was so quiet. I understand completely the jadedness of the fanbase and the general levels of pessimism when it comes to this team / core etc., but absolutely no reason not to get involved and try and support the team.

The number of times you could hear the players actually communicating with each other, even up in the 300s, was insane. Could clearly hear Swayman yelling instructions to some of his Dmen in the 3rd, and once Marchand scored that place was a morgue.

So disappointing.

I wasn’t there but by the midpoint of the game when they couldn’t make a simple pass, I felt like they weren’t going to get any momentum and it would take a fluke for them to win.

 

[rumman]

Speed and tenacity.

Yup, too blue collar for the GM at the time……..

 

[Suntouchable13]

Leafs had 5 pps to Bostons 3.

I am surprised they called so many penalties in a row against Boston. Obviously they were gonna let some go, that’s just the nature of things.

 

[notbias]

If the goalie didn't make the saves, we didn't get PP working and PK wasn't working, did we play fine?

There's more to it in a game than just effort.

We out hit them, out worked them in many areas. No doubt.
But to me, we always seemed to be one mistake away in every game

Mistakes are just more costly when it is hard to score, and Swayman has been amazing so far, he's been beating our shooters.

 

[Leafs98]

my dad sent me the Marchand interview where he's gushing over the different Leafs and idk to me it seemed like bait, and then we get Bert following him around the ice looking for a sword fight and head hunting after. god DAMMIT

He's trolling. Years ago he recommended the Leafs pay Marner whatever he asked and people thought it was respect...he knew.

 

[leafs in five]

The second goal was just as bad ....

McCabe abandons the net on the PK .. Is Kampf covering the net appropriately here ?

Jake DeBrusk (3) PPG A: B. Marchand (4), C. Coyle (1) Is Kampf playing this well ? 3 Leafs entirely along the wall. And what miracle does Marchand get a perfect pass from this scrum. Kampf doing nothing, in no man's land. 12 feet from an open Bruins player

forums.hfboards.com

yeah, speaking of our new identity there's Edmo being playoff-tough against Pasta while he's lying on the ice against the boards, love it

 

[egd27]

Lots to unpack from last night, but as someone who was in the building and has the privilege of going to a lot of these home playoff games - last night's atmosphere was shocking.

I can't believe we all spent a few days watching Jets, Canucks, and Edmonton fans turn their buildings into cauldrons of noise, atmosphere, and intimidation, and we as a fanbase mustered up... that?

Large stretches where that place was so quiet. I understand completely the jadedness of the fanbase and the general levels of pessimism when it comes to this team / core etc., but absolutely no reason not to get involved and try and support the team.

The number of times you could hear the players actually communicating with each other, even up in the 300s, was insane. Could clearly hear Swayman yelling instructions to some of his Dmen in the 3rd, and once Marchand scored that place was a morgue.

So disappointing.

Crowd seems pretty engaged when the team gives them something to cheer about.

Pretty hard to get excited about that PP, or allowing a go ahead goal 30 seconds after scoring.

Crowd has been conditioned to wait for the next screw up because it usually happens

Maybe if they weren’t 1-6 in their last 7 games at home, the crowd may not sit in dread of what will happen next