Speculation: Leafs interested in Brayden Schenn

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I have the feeling if this trade occurred it would be exactly how many Toronto fans propose trades where it’s a bunch of stuff they don’t want for a thing they want and I think I’m okay with that.

I may be in the minority of blues fans or not I don’t know I just speak for myself but I think stl would benefit from one more futures based deadline. I think this maybe a deal that some blues fans may not love the return…but that’s okay I think.

The blues have a good class of prospects, but they’re 18-20, it’s gonna be a minute, so maybe good to invest in one more draft. The blues being good right now is maybe detrimental to their future. Maybe best to trade a guy away. Plus; McDavid, Eichel, Matthews and MacKinnon are in their prime. Why try to enter that heavyweight battle. It’s a good time to reload. Schenn has been playing great. He’s good for the playoffs. He’s as honest a player there is in the modern game.

I have mixed feelings ona potential Brayden Schenn deal.

I have no doubt He'd be a HUGE add for the playoff stretch

He's a playoff beast.

But he's also 33, 3 years left after this one at 6.5 per year.

I would probably do it because it is about NOW but I would have long term concerns.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Its seems like Holloway and Kyrou have been carrying him in terms of speed.

Leafs are a slow team, they need some speed at C.

Through the eye test he's still a pretty good skater. However, those two are elite skaters and do push the pace, Schenn is a compliment to them. There aren't many centers in the NHL that wouldn't be slower than those two.

Don't see how this works in any way. I wouldn't mind the Blues moving Schenn to try and spark some sort of a culture change. We've tried a few coaches, shipped out some complimentary pieces. Same story. Look really good at times, don't show up at times. Really wouldn't mind it being futures based. But it would have to be in the offseason. I will die before I watch Sunny try and get from the red line to the blue line by the time Holloway and or Kyrou have done 3 laps around the ice.

We lack center depth as is after Thomas. Leafs don't have a center that would be able to play up in the lineup and not black hole the offense. We don't need cap space, this UFA class outside of the top 5 or so looks really weak. I can't imagine trying to add in a center to flex the 2nd and 3rd line with Dvorsky for next season. Per all of Army's pressers too I can't imagine them throwing him in the deep end to sink or swim. Maybe we could pursue Granlund, but i dont know why he'd sign here right now unless we were overpaying him and if our objective is to stick to the course, i'm not sure overpaying a stop-gap for more than 2-3 years is a good idea at all.

EDIT: I guess Tavares would fit the bill but that seems dumb for the Leafs to trade for Schenn and let Tavares walk. Seems even dumber for the Leafs to trade Tavares for Schenn.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Honestly I kind of forgot Schenn is still playing. Past his prime, playing on a retirement contract with NTC that other teams probably don't want to or can't touch (but not so bad that it would be featured on any "worst contracts" list), on a kind of irrelevant team (no offense Blues fans). But I guess he could still be a competent addition, even if aging and a bit overpaid.

 

[biturbo19]

It's hard to see how Toronto would make the cap work. There's no way STL would retain for that much more term. You can make it work in future years as the cap goes up...but in the meantime, how do you fit that in this year?

He'd be a good add for what the Leafs need. Some grit that can play pretty much anywhere in the Top-9. But even if you just start packaging up like...Kampf, Domi, Reaves to make the cap work...that's gonna start to make the acquisition price jump significantly. It'd also rob the Leafs of "depth".



If anything, Vancouver is probably one of the teams that could afford to make that sort of deal happen without sending a ton of salary back and also without asking for retention that isn't going to happen. They could use him...as either a Top-6W or 2a/b sort of Center.

 

[Visnovsky]

I'm pretty positive that this move would require Toronto to move Domi and Kämpf, they pretty much 100% cover the cap hit of Brayden Schenn - and I would be absolutely on board with this, he's a perfect match to play with Marner on a separate line.

Kämpf could easily traded for a late pick on a separate deal, regardless of his high cap hit.

Domi is another story... he is pretty much whatever on a long deal, and should probably be sent away also in a separate deal than in that for Schenn - unless St. Louis would, for some reason, be bent on getting him back as a part of the deal (which I do not believe in).

We shall see what happens, one of the most interesting times of the hockey year.

 

[sittler rules!!!]

Dreger might as well be on the Leafs payroll for all the water he carries for that org.

Dreger and Chris Johnson, both useless

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[seanlinden]

I'm pretty positive that this move would require Toronto to move Domi and Kämpf, they pretty much 100% cover the cap hit of Brayden Schenn - and I would be absolutely on board with this, he's a perfect match to play with Marner on a separate line.

Kämpf could easily traded for a late pick on a separate deal, regardless of his high cap hit.

Domi is another story... he is pretty much whatever on a long deal, and should probably be sent away also in a separate deal than in that for Schenn - unless St. Louis would, for some reason, be bent on getting him back as a part of the deal (which I do not believe in).

We shall see what happens, one of the most interesting times of the hockey year.

Not quite... Domi is $3.75m and Kampf $2.4m. Together they are $6.15m vs Schenn's $6.5m.

The Challenge isn't the $350k difference in those two, it's that it's 2 roster-playing forwards for one. Somebody is going to have to replace Kampf's minutes and spot in the lineup, which will cost a minimum of $800k, so you're really talking about a $1.1m delta.

The Leafs don't actually have that space, as Hakanpaa's LTIR money is already "half-consumed" by Myers. You need 7 defencemen.

At the end of the day, I think there's actually a lot of merit to the concept of Brayden Schenn in the offseason as the Leafs 3rd line C next year. I don't neccessarily like it if the thought is Matthews-Tavares-Schenn as your centres, given the ages, but there will probably be enough cap space to make that work especially if you can get it done without Minten or Cowan.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I can definitely see why he would be someone that playoff bound teams are calling on. I doubt St Louis is overly motivated to move him though

 

[ToDavid]

Dreger might as well be on the Leafs payroll for all the water he carries for that org.

This is such a wild take about Darren “Marner has $14 million offer sheets on the table” Dreger.

Reporting the Leafs are in on a player is hardly for the Leafs’ benefit. Other teams float this shit to the Toronto media to get their guy’s name on top of all the trade boards and drum up interest. And Dreger is happy to report it because he knows it will get clicks and eyeballs.