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Pre-Game Talk: Leafs @ Habs: Game 4: lets hear your game 4 lineup.

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Buzzman17 said:
Look at the Habs goal. People blaming reilly, but it was Thornton who didn’t cover a pinching leafs dman. I’m pretty sure any other NHLer and all of our AHLers would have covered. He is losing more than just his feet and his hands. He can’t think the game at a high level.
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u see what u want to see ... clearly ur wrong

mik and thonton were at the line trying to keep the puck in the zone. thats the only involvement thornton had on the play.

the puck gets through to suzuki BEFORE THE GODDAMN red line ....
he glides through no problem with reilly 15 feet away for no reason the whole way down the ice, all the way to the red dot. Considering the other player was being covered by the ther Dman that was the worst gap control i have seen all season long. reilly was on vacation on that play.
 
Buzzman17 said:
Look at the Habs goal. People blaming reilly, but it was Thornton who didn’t cover a pinching leafs dman. I’m pretty sure any other NHLer and all of our AHLers would have covered. He is losing more than just his feet and his hands. He can’t think the game at a high level.
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Coverage was there by the time the Habs hit the redline. Rielly's poor gap allowed the shot and from a better spot than it should have been, but ultimately a goal Campbell likely wants back
 
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Suntouchable13 said:
So we have to keep playing them whether they are a liability or not? That makes no sense.
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Right? I mean, I am a big fan of Joe but man he needs to step down. Maybe play him against slower teams but against the Habs he's too slow

Habs have no problem playing their rookies we should as well. Robertsson and Brooks should be given an opportunity
Look what it did for Engvall, he showed up. How do we know Brooks won't show up if we don't give them the right opportunities
 
Ashdown2 said:
u see what u want to see ... clearly ur wrong

mik and thonton were at the line trying to keep the puck in the zone. thats the only involvement thornton had on the play.

the puck gets through to suzuki BEFORE THE GODDAMN red line ....
he glides through no problem with reilly 15 feet away for no reason the whole way down the ice, all the way to the red dot. Considering the other player was being covered by the ther Dman that was the worst gap control i have seen all season long. reilly was on vacation on that play.
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Even with poor play from Rielly and Joe, that goal shouldn't have gone in regardless. That's just a bad goal by Campbell.
 
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fahad203 said:
Even with poor play from Rielly and Joe, that goal shouldn't have gone in regardless. That's just a bad goal by Campbell.
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its the exact same shot from the exact same spot connors scored on smith ...
goal scorers will score from that spot alot considering the space he was given. also on the off wing with more net opening up.
 
inthe6ix said:
Carey is starting, so Jack has to.. right???

Please don't throw Freddy in there cold, this is a huge game.

Sit Jumbo and bring in Brooks.
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This.

Huge game, everybody else has lived or died by their starter we should as well, so we can end them Thursday.

Also 100% on the resting Thornton bandwagon. The the guise of you're old you need to stay rested to help us in the long term, but really its because you're too slow and you're neutering Spezza offensively.

I like Keefe, but everytime i see Jumbo on the powerplay i want to bash my head into the tv.
 
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If you’re not going to sit Joe, please take him off PP1. This isn’t 2006 anymore he’s a detriment to the first unit. Hyman and Thornton don’t pose a threat to shoot on the PP, so the Habs can just seal the half walls and take Marners and Matthews space.

Brooks/ Robertson in for some fresh legs.

If Freddy starts tonight I’ll have the IPAs on ice
 
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fahad203 said:
Even with poor play from Rielly and Joe, that goal shouldn't have gone in regardless. That's just a bad goal by Campbell.
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No, that was a goal scorers goal... that shot goes in on pretty much any goalie from that spot, as clean as the shot/look were.
Watch Suzuki's PP goals from the circle area, that is his sweet spot, and where he scores the many of his goals from.
You cannot give shooters time and space to shoot... imagine Matthews with that much time and space, same result most of the time.
 
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Start Campbell tonight and then tell him to not show up at the rink again till Thursday night. He doesn't need to skate during practice or morning skate.
 
Ashdown2 said:
u see what u want to see ... clearly ur wrong

mik and thonton were at the line trying to keep the puck in the zone. thats the only involvement thornton had on the play.

the puck gets through to suzuki BEFORE THE GODDAMN red line ....
he glides through no problem with reilly 15 feet away for no reason the whole way down the ice, all the way to the red dot. Considering the other player was being covered by the ther Dman that was the worst gap control i have seen all season long. reilly was on vacation on that play.
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I don’t think I’m wrong. Have you played high level hockey? Thornton’s only job was to cover right dman and Mikeyhev. And he stood there doing nothing. I agree Reilly had bad gap coverage but it started with Joe standing still and not getting on the right side of the puck.
 
mydnyte said:
...and Price looked like poop in his 1/2 game start vs the Marlies, you have a better point to make about meaningless games?
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Those three games shouldn't have been meaningless to Andy. He played them like he played all year. I am a big Andy supporter, but his decision to delay his return (warranted or not) until the very last minute painted the Leaf brass into a corner. Jack has been as advertised. For a team that hasn't won a series in a long time, you simply can't let up now unless Jack is hurting. Andy likely won't be back with the Leafs next year, so they owe him nothing. He has been great over the years, but I heard that Leafs management was frustrated with him last season when he refused to play even after being cleared by the medical staff. That is why there were whispers of moving on from him last summer. Jack is their goalie moving forward. Ride him until his play suggests otherwise or he says he needs a day off.
 
Who ever gets the call in net tonight, I'll be happy with as I have unwavering trust in this coach, medical staff, psychologists, and whoever else makes the decision. They know Campbell better than anyone here and if they don't think it's wise to start him, then I'm going to agree. Call me a homer, but we have 10's of millions of dollars worth of brains making this choice. They'd better nail it.
 
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Can we just give up on Robertson coming in for Thornton?

If Thornton comes out it will be for Nash (if Foligno's in) or Brooks (if Foligno's out)

Always add Centre depth before a small teenage winger who hasn't played in over a month
 
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Ashdown2 said:
its the exact same shot from the exact same spot connors scored on smith ...
goal scorers will score from that spot alot considering the space he was given. also on the off wing with more net opening up.
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One big difference is the handedness. Suzuki being a righty in the right makes it a much weaker goal, though neither were good
 
Clark4Ever said:
Still, it was a flawed strategy that almost bit us in the ass.

The best way to defend a lead is to keep possession, which is what got us the lead in the first place.
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I like the strategy with 10 mins left, not a full period. It was obvious what their plan was on the first shift of the third.
 
Buzzman17 said:
I don’t think I’m wrong. Have you played high level hockey? Thornton’s only job was to cover right dman and Mikeyhev. And he stood there doing nothing. I agree Reilly had bad gap coverage but it started with Joe standing still and not getting on the right side of the puck.
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It's depressing to see Joe out there on the PP based on his reputation, rather than current skill set. It's moreso depressing to see how inept he is at a standstill leaving his teammates out to dry on the back check. This is the second time I've seen him flat-footed and/or plain gassed-out when the rush is going the other way.

The last time was the Byron shorty and we know how that turned out as well.

He needs a rest and be a good vet when he's in the lineup with very limited minutes.
 
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