Post-Game Talk: Leafs Book Their Tickets for Game 7 [MOD WARNING in OP]

[Stephen]

as it should if/when they blow the 3-0 lead

berube still needs to find a way to salvage a series

his first step should be to ensure those two don't touch the ice together at even strength.

out of all 8 favourites, only the f***ing leafs could muster up the strength (or lack thereof) to get reverse swept.

What’s telling to me is the lack of trust in a Matthews and Marner led team. They changed the entire support cast, coach, play style and they to 12 wins in a row, drop 2 suddenly in the playoffs and everyone basically knows they’re in mid collapse.

I don’t think you can salvage it. And if they get by Ottawa I put it at highly unlikely they win 1 game the next round.

 

[Aashir]

If you don't strap Matthews with either Marner or Nylander he is useless offensively especially in the post season doubly so in elimination games. You might as well scratch him at that point and put Kampf in and you get more value.

Marner is equally useless if he doesn't have one of Nylander or Tavares on his line.

You could put Nylander on line 1 and Marner on line 2. I always liked Nylander with Matthews more personally.

i'd bring kampf + robertson in for Mcmann + patches tbh.

PK has gone to shit again (no surprise). I'd take matthews off it and staple kampf to it. go maybe something like:
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Robertson - Tavares - Marner
Kockman - Domi - McMann
Kampf - Laughton - Lorentz

marner gets no excuses here, he has 2 goal scorers either he produces or he continues to show he is a fraud
domi gets shooters + speed on his line so he has to f***ing produce
matthews gets two goal scorer on his line so he can hide behind making passes to his teammates praying they can finish.

if that doesn't work, I declare the whole 9 years a failure and ship them all out 1 by 1

 

[Stephen]

If you don't strap Matthews with either Marner or Nylander he is useless offensively especially in the post season doubly so in elimination games. You might as well scratch him at that point and put Kampf in and you get more value.

Marner is equally useless if he doesn't have one of Nylander or Tavares on his line.

You could put Nylander on line 1 and Marner on line 2. I always liked Nylander with Matthews more personally.

Matthews is utterly useless. He’s like Steven Stamkos without the one timer.

 

[binop7]

What’s telling to me is the lack of trust in a Matthews and Marner led team. They changed the entire support cast, coach, play style and they to 12 wins in a row, drop 2 suddenly in the playoffs and everyone basically knows they’re in mid collapse.

I don’t think you can salvage it. And if they get by Ottawa I put it at highly unlikely they win 1 game the next round.

What I don't get is this epic chokejob version of the leafs started with the Kessel era vs Boston in the 4-1 game. How the hell is this stench still permeating?

 

[ruaware41]

Yeah and he might score a random goal upon his return if this team ever scores another goal again this season.

Robbie has one bad game and gets permanently scratched. It doesn't make sense. Apparently he has a very high production rate given how little ice time he gets. Pacioretty was good for ONE game and then sucked right after. He was good on his 1st game back after ages then sucked.

You would hope they would realize Patches likely plays his best with large gaps in between and rotate patches and Robertson every other game. Don't care if Patches throws 2 big hits every game. He's been useless out there

 

[alliuk12]

What’s telling to me is the lack of trust in a Matthews and Marner led team. They changed the entire support cast, coach, play style and they to 12 wins in a row, drop 2 suddenly in the playoffs and everyone basically knows they’re in mid collapse.

I don’t think you can salvage it. And if they get by Ottawa I put it at highly unlikely they win 1 game the next round.

no a Matthews lead team when he's out of the lineup the leafs are winners when he gets back in the lineup they are losers get rid of him and bring in another good defense man and you have a winning team

 

[ruaware41]

Matthews is utterly useless. He’s like Steven Stamkos without the one timer.

It's amazing how much lingering injuries can derail the level an athlete like him could otherwise reach. When the Leafs drafted him, it wasn't with the expectation to go barely over a ppg in the regular season, and suck in the playoffs.

The way this has been handled is as much on Matthews as it is the Leafs. I would've loved if 5 years ago they force him to sit for half a season and pay for the best treatments around to fix this walking Lupul who's seemingly always playing injured or not playing. I would not re-sign Matthews because his play will sadly probably get a lot worse the way this is going. I guess it's natural that someone always banged up will struggle with the type of hockey where you get banged up a lot more.

 

[Aashir]

What’s telling to me is the lack of trust in a Matthews and Marner led team. They changed the entire support cast, coach, play style and they to 12 wins in a row, drop 2 suddenly in the playoffs and everyone basically knows they’re in mid collapse.

I don’t think you can salvage it. And if they get by Ottawa I put it at highly unlikely they win 1 game the next round.

probably not

Vegas went up 3-0 against dallas in 2023 with 2 out of the 3 wins being overtime games. They lost game 4 in ot and game 5 too. They came out and dummied dallas 6-0 and went on to win the cup.

I can't find articles, and don't think the consensus was that "Vegas is gonna collapse". They were playing a much better team way deeper with potential injuries and yet they still weren't seen in as bad as a position as the division winning leafs playing the wildcard sens team with no playoff experience

 

[darrylsittler27]

yea this one will end my fandom, can't do it anymore

The fans know more about hockey than the Pejorative Slurs running this team . There will be a lot of empty seats next year.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Fan support for this franchise will be done after these playoffs like probably never before.

We warned management. The fans won't be paying next year.

 

[ruaware41]

Well, to state the obvious, 3-0 is a lot f***ing different from 3-1. One has been overcome four times ever, the other nineteen.

The timing of it is the other factor. For this to happen after all that other shit happened, it would be looked at a lot differently than if it was just their first or second failure .

I mean the Habs series wasn't their first failure either. In the grand scheme of things, imo all most people would remember or care about is that the Leafs choked a playoff series to a mediocre Habs and sens team

 

[Mike4Leafs4ever]

From TNT: Goals by Core Four in Series Clinching Games since 2018 Playoffs:

Tavares: 5 goals in 10gp
Mathews: 4 goals in 14gp
Nylander: 2 goals in 14gp
Marner: 0 goals in 14 gp

Only Tavares has any reasonable record here. The others just don't have it. I hope beyond hope that they change the script, but I have very little faith.

 

[seventieslord]

I mean the Habs series wasn't their first failure either. In the grand scheme of things, imo all most people would remember or care about is that the Leafs choked a playoff series to a mediocre Habs and sens team

Have you forgotten what we were even going back and forth about? I said if they lose there will finally be major changes. You think they'll just do the same thing they did following the habs series because this is no different.

Yes it is. Being a real division winner is different from leading some lame-ass COVID Canadian division. The two big guys being 27 and in the middle of their primes is different from being 23. Being up 3-0 is different from being up 3-1. Losing to a team with no one of significance on it is different from getting goalied by a hall-of-famer. And failing for the eighth time is different from the fourth time.

For f***s sake man, of course it would be different. It would be worse in every imaginable way.

 

[colchar]

Its time for a shakeup

Stolarz is choking. Hes pulling an andersen, campbell, samsonov

No big saves, bad rebounds

Um, you know that other than game #4 when he let in three, he has only let in two goals per game all series right? The losses are on Captain America and his merry band of incompetents who cannot score, as f***ing usual.

Don't pull a status quo game 6

Play Woll
Scratch Pacioretty and bring robertson
Drop Holmberg to L4 and move McMann up
Drop marner to L3 and move Domi up

You're a savant. Send Shanny you resume immediately so that they can hire you before game #6. With you in charge they'll easily win that, then sweep their way through the rest of the playoffs.

 

[ruaware41]

Um, you know that other than game #4 when he let in three, he has only let in two goals per game all series right? The losses are on Captain America and his merry band of incompetents who cannot score, as f***ing usual.






You're a savant. Send Shanny you resume immediately so that they can hire you before game #6. With you in charge they'll easily win that, then sweep their way through the rest of the playoffs.

Do you have to be an ass? We're all playing Monday night quarterback, none of us on this forum work for the MLSE. None of anything anyone says on here has any meaning whatsoever to the decisions or strategies of a team. That's not exclusive to him, nor excludes you. Yet here we all are.

 

[colchar]

None of anything anyone says on here has any meaning whatsoever to the decisions or strategies of a team.

No shit Sherlock.

 

[seventieslord]

The Leafs are now 1-13 in series clinching games with this core 4.

In fact the Leafs have not won a playoff series in 5 or less games since 1963.

Saying this core has a lack of killer instinct, would be and understatement.

That's incorrect. They swept Ottawa in 2001.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

A pathetic team lost pathetically to an even more pathetic team... or maybe it's the other way around.

When I got to work they had the game on and it was the last minute of play. I saw the score and decided not to even waste my time watching. Without even seeing the game I can already tell you what they did right... nothing.

What did they do wrong? Everything.

Another epic choke job by this team. While I'm not surprised they lost, nobody should be, I am a little surprised they lost so badly. All that awesome defense and coaching and this is the best they could do.

Toronto Maple Leafs giving their fans what they pay for tonight.

Imagine spending all that money on tickets. Hoping and expecting your favourite team to destroy what should be an easy out for a pass to the second round. Only for them to lose in such humiliating fashion on home ice against a team that made the playoffs for the first time in eight years.

That's pathetic.

 

[darrylsittler27]

If they lose this series I might legit check out on this team for a long time lol not even joking about that.

I think many will. They have no picks either. Truly pathetic.

 

[darrylsittler27]

From TNT: Goals by Core Four in Series Clinching Games since 2018 Playoffs:

Tavares: 5 goals in 10gp
Mathews: 4 goals in 14gp
Nylander: 2 goals in 14gp
Marner: 0 goals in 14 gp

Only Tavares has any reasonable record here. The others just don't have it. I hope beyond hope that they change the script, but I have very little faith.

No one does. This franchise is a bad joke. Empty seats next year. Wow that Laughton trade was stupid.

 

[Donnie740]

Right, because that's why Leafs fans are upset, the fact that we aren't going to go 16-0.

It's because in the last 4 games against the Sens we are 2-2 with our 2 wins coming in ot.

How convenient that you ignored the fact that little brother needed an overtime miracle just to avoid getting swept.

It’s like you’re looking for reasons to overreact and panic about the Leafs. As I’ve explained numerous times, this team is completely different than Leaf teams of the past half decade.

There’s not a chance in hell of Toronto losing this series, so take the advice that Bozo The Keefe gave the team in his pregame “pep talk” last year - - breathe…just relax…and breathe.

 

[Leafs87]

Fan support for this franchise will be done after these playoffs like probably never before.

With the economy being what it is, I’d say this is the first time leafs should really be concerned. Tonight was a prime example. These aren’t the most passionate fans we had, they were the only ones who can justify the price. The average family basically has to pick between a vacation or a Leafs playoff game. After today’s results, I doubt it’s much of a choice anymore.

 

[Leafs87]

Giroux was part of the 2010 Flyers team who came back from 0-3. I'm sure he is telling his boys how to get this done.

Besides Giroux being on the team, I see zero parallels between that team and this Sens team. Even Giroux is a passenger nowadays whereas he was there MVP back then

 

[mikeyz]

How convenient that you ignored the fact that little brother needed an overtime miracle just to avoid getting swept.

It’s like you’re looking for reasons to overreact and panic about the Leafs. As I’ve explained numerous times, this team is completely different than Leaf teams of the past half decade.

There’s not a chance in hell of Toronto losing this series, so take the advice that Bozo The Keefe gave the team in his pregame “pep talk” last year - - breathe…just relax…and breathe.

Ohhhh someone is definitely going to have to do a wellness check on you come Saturday night. Because I can guarantee you they will lose this series.

 

[ClarkSittler]

We fell for it again. These losers will never change.