Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Clifford from the Blues in exchange for future considerations

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Year 1: Tavares, Muzzin, Gauthier, Ozhiganov
Year 2: Mikheyev, Clifford, Shore, Marchment, Gravel
Year 3: Foligno, Simmonds, Bogosian, Sabourin, Anderson
Year 4: Ritchie, Bunting, Kampf, Clifford, Gabriel

Whether Shanny had a chat with him or not, if anyone understands how important "toughness" (and in comes in many forms, see "NOT a goon") is to a teams success Shanahan would. So does Dubas based on his moves.

I was never a cheerleader of Shanny as he played for the hated Blues and Red Wings (hangover from the Norris Division days), but, all fans respected his game immensely. A power forward who scored 50 goals.

Yzerman and Federov went from Cup-less, record breaking regular season heroes, to multiple Cup champs. They added Shanny, Kocur, Macoun, Primeau and a few others I can't remember, and they became back to back Champs (not regular season champs).

Dubas has made some good trades to address this issue and ensure his team can wear down, pin in corners, cycle, stifle other teams gameplan with an aggressive forecheck that often ends with a "thud" against the boards.

Fighting isn't the primary role of anyone in this league, it's only called upon when needed, so I don't like the fighter narrative. Just as Simmonds manhandled a player who took liberties with Campbell last year, or, an after-the-whistle scrum that puts your players at risk making teammates feel weak and humiliated. You need men who won't back down and will have each others back.

I'd like to see Clifford on a line with Simmonds and Spezza. I think the other three lines last game looked sound as they were. None dominant, but sound.
 
I think pairing JT with Marner and Willy and AM is the single most important change required.

Tavares is a threat to score 40+ with MM by his side. That is the single biggest reason I lobby for those pairings.
 
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Year 1: Tavares, Muzzin, Gauthier, Ozhiganov
Year 2: Mikheyev, Clifford, Shore, Marchment, Gravel
Year 3: Foligno, Simmonds, Bogosian, Sabourin, Anderson
Year 4: Ritchie, Bunting, Kampf, Clifford, Gabriel
Year 5: Reaves, Lucic, Wilson and Martin?
 
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I wont lie... im a little bit excited to see the Leafs ice Ritchie, Clifford and Simmonds....have the hunted suddenly become the hunters?

nothing I enjoy more than watching opposition players immediately leave our crease after the goalie cover the puck or when the opposition turn a different direction instead of pile driving our forwards from behind when they are in front of their goalie after a whistle.
 
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QUESTION
By not signing Clifford did this allow us to keep the draft pick that became Matthew Knies?
If yes, could be an important future piece for not signing him
We ended up giving the Kings a third rounder rather than second, so it did allow us to get Knies.
 
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I think getting Clifford indicates a problem in the room.
1. He us a great room guy
2. He was one of Dubas clients when he tried to be an agent
3. He knows most of the room
4. The problem is if he gets caught ratting back to Dubas, players and coaches will hate him, Dubas, Shanny and the season is done.
 
I wont lie... im a little bit excited to see the Leafs ice Ritchie, Clifford and Simmonds....have the hunted suddenly become the hunters?

nothing I enjoy more than watching opposition players immediately leave our crease after the goalie cover the puck or when the opposition turn a different direction instead of pile driving our forwards from behind when they are in front of their goalie after a whistle.
The opposition will be too busy cycling us to death.
 
I think getting Clifford indicates a problem in the room.
1. He us a great room guy
2. He was one of Dubas clients when he tried to be an agent
3. He knows most of the room
4. The problem is if he gets caught ratting back to Dubas, players and coaches will hate him, Dubas, Shanny and the season is done.
Yes, of course picking up a specific player must mean that Dubas screwed up somewhere. Some people have too much time on their hands I see.

Dubas and Clifford go way back.....Dubas was his agent at one time.

Clifford gets his full NHL salary in the AHL with no withholding or clawback. It may just be a favour to Clifford, while shoring up depth.
 
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Can we ice Clifford, Simmonds, Ritchie and Gabriel in the lineup against the Habs for 1 game?

I just want to see some havoc
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see a Simmonds/Spezza type extension to Clifford, and him given a very real shot to be 4LW out of camp next season
 
Can we ice Clifford, Simmonds, Ritchie and Gabriel in the lineup against the Habs for 1 game?

I just want to see some havoc
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Simmonds/Spezza type extension to Clifford, and him given a very real shot to be 4LW out of camp next season

I would be surprised... he just isn't that good anymore. Nice depth, in case someone gets injured, but that's it.
 
We thought the same of an older Simmonds. Sometimes the fit just isn't there, sometimes a guy has a down year.

Clifford would really need to work on his skating in the offseason. I just don't see it. It's more than just one down year though.
 
Yes, of course picking up a specific player must mean that Dubas screwed up somewhere. Some people have too much time on their hands I see.

Dubas and Clifford go way back.....Dubas was his agent at one time.

Clifford gets his full NHL salary in the AHL with no withholding or clawback. It may just be a favour to Clifford, while shoring up depth.

Until he enters the Leaf room, then only time will tell.
 
I think getting Clifford indicates a problem in the room.
1. He us a great room guy
2. He was one of Dubas clients when he tried to be an agent
3. He knows most of the room
4. The problem is if he gets caught ratting back to Dubas, players and coaches will hate him, Dubas, Shanny and the season is done.
Lmao. Good lord.
 
Quite the imagination, eh?
For sure I do. But unless they want another coach for the Marlies with Clune, why do you pick up a guy who is over the hill, not 1 other team wanted for such a small salary.
Dubas brings back an old friend, hmmmmm. There is nobody on this team he can replace and even match their role so we could save cap bucks.
What is the logic? Just another TO boy comes home for $1m.
 
I think getting Clifford indicates a problem in the room.
1. He us a great room guy
2. He was one of Dubas clients when he tried to be an agent
3. He knows most of the room
4. The problem is if he gets caught ratting back to Dubas, players and coaches will hate him, Dubas, Shanny and the season is done.

Some of you guys try way to hard to find drama lol
 
For sure I do. But unless they want another coach for the Marlies with Clune, why do you pick up a guy who is over the hill, not 1 other team wanted for such a small salary.
Dubas brings back an old friend, hmmmmm. There is nobody on this team he can replace and even match their role so we could save cap bucks.
What is the logic? Just another TO boy comes home for $1m.
The more Ontario guys da better and tougher team will be .. Cliffy is not a TO guy at all .. much like Muzzy and why they are great friends .. team first guys tough as nails
 
The more Ontario guys da better and tougher team will be .. Cliffy is not a TO guy at all .. much like Muzzy and why they are great friends .. team first guys tough as nails
Ok, Ayr, which is Cambridge/Kitchener, but is Port Crddut actually TO?
But he is not on the team, or another Clune?
 

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