LD Zeev Buium - University of Denver, NCAA (2024, 12th, MIN)

[qcal1427]

Overhardt is also the agent of Johansen. The Flyers had a lot of trouble there. You can look around the league with some of his other players and see what he’s done with Trouba or Gibson.

Look, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many of his clients are very difficult to deal with. This is his reputation. He pushes them to be this way.

I mean of the four guys you've listed the only one that possibly did anything "immoral" is Johansen, and even then we'll see what the outcome of the PA's challenge will be soon.

I don't think the Flyers are in a position where they can afford to pass on players clearly in a talent tier above who they took just because an agent is difficult to deal with.

 

[WPGDEVILS]

As a Wild fan, i hope so. His weaknesses are lack of size(he is Makar/Fox size), skating speed(he is a good skater, just not super fast), and defensive intensity(he is decent, but not especially combative defensively). His IQ, evasiveness with the puck, and play at the offensive blue line appear to be strengths.

It was a VERY strong draft class for Dmen. I can see any of the other Dmen drafted before him ending up as better players. Dickinson, Levshunov, Silayev have better size and skating. Yakemchuk better size and physicality, Parekh is an offensive freak.

We'll just have to wait and see.

It really was, we can speculate who’s gonna be the best but they are all such intriguing prospect that for the most part are dominating their respective leagues. I don’t think anyone can say they got the best prospect without just being a homer.

 

[wickedwitch]

It really was, we can speculate who’s gonna be the best but they are all such intriguing prospect that for the most part are dominating their respective leagues. I don’t think anyone can say they got the best prospect without just being a homer.

As someone whose team drafted none of them, I'm not a homer, and I think Buium will be the best.

(I still have my biases like everyone, of course.)

 

[WPGDEVILS]

As someone whose team drafted none of them, I'm not a homer, and I think Buium will be the best.

(I still have my biases like everyone, of course.)

Fair enough Buium looks great and was amazing in NCAA. But Levshunov is super impressive in the NHL, Parekh is just a total different level then everyone else when it comes to offensive abilities, Silayev has the craziest combo of size + skating and a defensive monster, Dickinson also had a monster season and is looking really impressive.

Right now I’d have Levshunov slightly ahead of everyone, small gap everyone else, small gap Yakemchuk who is a beast but I think clearly had the worst season out of them all.

Super impressive group

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I mean of the four guys you've listed the only one that possibly did anything "immoral" is Johansen, and even then we'll see what the outcome of the PA's challenge will be soon.

I don't think the Flyers are in a position where they can afford to pass on players clearly in a talent tier above who they took just because an agent is difficult to deal with.

Kurt, is that you?

I’d say refusing to speak with the team that drafted you is highly immature. No agent should be advising something like that. It’s an immoral tactic.

It’s also an immoral tactic to claim you’d refuse to report to a team you were traded to in an effort to make a modified no trade clause into a full no move clause.

It’s also an immoral tactic when you have a 10 team no trade clause to be refusing advances of teams that want to trade for you year after year after your team has essentially said they want to trade you and you need to start considering some of these options. It makes a 10 team into essentially a full NTC.

All this initiated by the agent.

 

[qcal1427]

Kurt, is that you?

I wish, would be making a lot more money ...

I’d say refusing to speak with the team that drafted you is highly immature. No agent should be advising something like that. It’s an immoral tactic.

Until a team signs you you are under no obligation to do anything for said team. Gauthier did not want to sign for the Flyers for a completely legitimate reason (and even an illegitimate one would've been fine!) He played his hand right to force the outcome he wanted and was willing to accept the risk of having to play out all four years in college to make that happen, all of which is completely acceptable under the CBA. I'd even go so far as to say it was a very mature decision to make, taking a pretty big risk to do what you think is the best for your career.

It’s also an immoral tactic to claim you’d refuse to report to a team you were traded to in an effort to make a modified no trade clause into a full no move clause.

It is completely moral to tell potential acquiring teams that you may not want to be there and are willing to accept the consequences.

It’s also an immoral tactic when you have a 10 team no trade clause to be refusing advances of teams that want to trade for you year after year after your team has essentially said they want to trade you and you need to start considering some of these options. It makes a 10 team into essentially a full NTC.

It is completely moral to have a contractually negotiated 10 team NTC and refuse accept a trade to any of the 10 teams on that list.

All this initiated by the agent.

In every single case the player has wanted something -- Gauthier wanted to get out of Philly, Trouba wanted to stay in NY or at least go to a team preferable to him, Gibson wants a trade to a team not on his no-trade list -- and Overhardt has very successfully advised them on the best way to go about doing so. It's business. Helge Grans is his client as well and there's been absolutely no issue there.

It's just bad luck that 2 of his 33 clients have had trouble with Philly, but then again maybe that says more about the Flyers than him!

 

[PDX Flyer]

I’m pretty sure Boldy went before him

Flyers traded back twice. Boldy fell to them at their original spot. Then Caulfied fell to them twice during both trade backs. Classic Fletcher

 

[macbowes]

Best player in the game against BC, where he basically dominated the whole game.

 

[SI90]

This kid has had an amazing last year+ of hockey. He’s going to be special.

That wave to the BC bench after the empty net clincher was diabolical lol

 

[macbowes]

This kid has had an amazing last year+ of hockey. He’s going to be special.

That wave to the BC bench after the empty net clincher was diabolical lol

Agreed, he's actually a spicy meatball, I think it's really going to help him in the NHL. He has top pair potential.

 

[Mathieukferland]

Hilariously disrespectful celebration on the empty netter. Love it. Minnesota getting a great player

 

[William H Bonney]

Defenseman are never a sure thing but man his draft "slide" looks more insane with each passing day. He landed in a great spot, so who cares at the end of the day about your draft position, but some of those teams who passed on him are going to want a do over.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Defenseman are never a sure thing but man his draft "slide" looks more insane with each passing days. He landed in a great spot, so who cares at the end of the day about your draft position, but some of those teams who passed on him are going to want a do over.

I thought Zeev was a surefire top 5 pick. The fact that 5 defenseman were taken before him was shocking to me. He was my number 1 defenseman for that draft.

 

[Al Lagoon]

He looked anything but small and weak out there tonight, if those are his purported flaws.

 

[DemidovSaveUs]

He’s going to be running the top powerplay next season on what should be a pretty offensively gifted group. Minnesota’s franchise record for points by a defenseman is 50. Look for him to break that as a rookie assuming health.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

He’s going to be running the top powerplay next season on what should be a pretty offensively gifted group. Minnesota’s franchise record for points by a defenseman is 50. Look for him to break that as a rookie assuming health.

If it ends up being Faber-Buium on the top pair down the road, that's got absolute rockstar potential. Buium scoring all the points, flying through all 3 zones and Faber eating tough minutes, shutting down opponent forwards, and being the steady presence to cover for any Buium mistakes.

 

[SI90]

Buium and Faber lol so ridiculous

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If it ends up being Faber-Buium on the top pair down the road, that's got absolute rockstar potential. Buium scoring all the points, flying through all 3 zones and Faber eating tough minutes, shutting down opponent forwards, and being the steady presence to cover for any Buium mistakes.

I honestly don't think they'd play that drastically different. Maybe Buium 60/40 offense and Faber 60/40 defense, but both play the other side pretty/very well.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I thought Zeev was a surefire top 5 pick. The fact that 5 defenseman were taken before him was shocking to me. He was my number 1 defenseman for that draft.

But stupid Canadiens picked Demidov insted of him...

 

[BondraTime]

But stupid Canadiens picked Demidov insted of him...

I'm sure the Habs of all the teams in the top 10 are uspet at the guy they took

 

[State of Hockey]

I thought Zeev was a surefire top 5 pick. The fact that 5 defenseman were taken before him was shocking to me. He was my number 1 defenseman for that draft.

To be fair, aside from possibly Ottawa, I don't think any of the other 5 teams are unhappy with their picks. Just about every one of those defenders is having a great year.

He looked anything but small and weak out there tonight, if those are his purported flaws.

He's playing college hockey. Small and weak are common opponents for him.

There's gotta be some amnesia going on with Buium. He did all of these same great things last year and was still only projected by most to go a touch higher than he did. I'm certainly pleased that he in the Wild's prospect fold, but let's be honest here and understand that it's a huge stretch to say he should be this surefire top-5 pick or something like it. Obviously this type of season doesn't bring about any new worries and greatly help validate the 12th overall, but all of his concerns on draft day are present and really won't be tested until he plays against tougher competition. The hype machine needs to take a break.

 

[MuckOG]

He's playing college hockey. Small and weak are common opponents for him.

Do you think his opponents would be bigger and tougher in the CHL?

 

[Peasy]

To be fair, aside from possibly Ottawa, I don't think any of the other 5 teams are unhappy with their picks. Just about every one of those defenders is having a great year.



He's playing college hockey. Small and weak are common opponents for him.

There's gotta be some amnesia going on with Buium. He did all of these same great things last year and was still only projected by most to go a touch higher than he did. I'm certainly pleased that he in the Wild's prospect fold, but let's be honest here and understand that it's a huge stretch to say he should be this surefire top-5 pick or something like it. Obviously this type of season doesn't bring about any new worries and greatly help validate the 12th overall, but all of his concerns on draft day are present and really won't be tested until he plays against tougher competition. The hype machine needs to take a break.

How is it a huge stretch to say he shoulda been top 5 in the draft lol? Theres people out there that ranked him that high. The draft was wide open after 1 (some people will say 2 cause of demidov). He arguably had one of the highest floors and ceilings for that draft.

What were his concerns on draft day? That he wasnt the quickest skater north south? Sure hasn't hampered the likes of Hutson or Fox.

All the dude does is win, and continues to elevate his play the more thats on the line. It seems like a lot of teams put a lot of weight into need/fit when picking that draft (just look at the Flyers, they didnt want Buium because they already had York ). Teams are going to be kicking themselves for not selecting him.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He was supposed to go third. All the leaks that day said the Ducks were taking him. The Ducks taking Sennecke was a total draft night curveball. Not sure if they intentionally used misdirection/played it close to the vest or made a last second pivot. Wonder if it threw the other teams “off” so to speak and they all fell in love with the scouting reports of the guys they ended up with, not even thinking Buium was going to be an option.

 

[Garbageyuk]

He's playing college hockey. Small and weak are common opponents for him.

Lmao