LD Sam Dickinson - London Knights, OHL (2024, 11th, SJ)

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Think it’s tough to judge since London is a massive loaded team this year . Don’t forget he was flat out bad at juniors when playing field was even and had to play normal defense verse pick up hockey he’s playing at london . He would been 10 x better going to ncaa high end school playing against 22-23 men in a heavy tight structure game .
 
Think it’s tough to judge since London is a massive loaded team this year . Don’t forget he was flat out bad at juniors when playing field was even and had to play normal defense verse pick up hockey he’s playing at london . He would been 10 x better going to ncaa high end school playing against 22-23 men in a heavy tight structure game .
Yeah, guys playing in London have really struggled making the tradition to pro
 
Think it’s tough to judge since London is a massive loaded team this year . Don’t forget he was flat out bad at juniors when playing field was even and had to play normal defense verse pick up hockey he’s playing at london . He would been 10 x better going to ncaa high end school playing against 22-23 men in a heavy tight structure game .
London is the only team in the whole OHL that doesn't play pickup hockey. But yeah, let's judge him off four games at the WJC as the only 18 year old defenseman on the team instead of his whole body of work in the OHL.
 
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London is the only team in the whole OHL that doesn't play pickup hockey. But yeah, let's judge him off four games at the WJC as the only 18 year old defenseman on the team instead of his whole body of work in the OHL.

I’m excited about sharks last 2 draft classes…. GMMG kinda killing it.

Tho I still would have gone w/ zeev over Dickinson…. Either being available at that pick was a win for the sharks
 
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I’m excited about sharks last 2 draft classes…. GMMG kinda killing it.

Tho I still would have gone w/ zeev over Dickinson…. Either being available at that pick was a win for the sharks
I would say broad consensus on the boards agrees with this, a few think Dick better because of size and mobility, but nearly everyone said "we'll take Dickinson at 11, I get it".
 
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I’m excited about sharks last 2 draft classes…. GMMG kinda killing it.

Tho I still would have gone w/ zeev over Dickinson…. Either being available at that pick was a win for the sharks
I had Buium 3rd overall last year and Sam I think 7th. So I would have preferred Buium for sure, but Dickinson is still a lucky get at 11th and we're fortunate to have him in the system.

His point totals are definitely inflated to some degree from playing a lot of minutes in a team who has three legit excellent scoring lines (a rarity in the CHL) and I don't expect Dickinson to play PP1 in the NHL, but the bulk of his production is coming at even strength (46 of his 73 points). He'll still be a valuable middle pairing guy (hopefully a true #3) who can play in all situations and be a defensive stopper.
 
I had Buium 3rd overall last year and Sam I think 7th. So I would have preferred Buium for sure, but Dickinson is still a lucky get at 11th and we're fortunate to have him in the system.

His point totals are definitely inflated to some degree from playing a lot of minutes in a team who has three legit excellent scoring lines (a rarity in the CHL) and I don't expect Dickinson to play PP1 in the NHL, but the bulk of his production is coming at even strength (46 of his 73 points). He'll still be a valuable middle pairing guy (hopefully a true #3) who can play in all situations and be a defensive stopper.
Yep considering you got your franchise center already in that draft, and chervy looks like a potential top 6 winger.

Grabbing a dmen that has a top 4 floor in my books, with top pair upside if he hits his ceiling is still a very nice pick at 11.
 
Yep considering you got your franchise center already in that draft, and chervy looks like a potential top 6 winger.

Grabbing a dmen that has a top 4 floor in my books, with top pair upside if he hits his ceiling is still a very nice pick at 11.
Totally. A good middle pairing two-way D is close to an optimal outcome at 11th.
 
Yeah, guys playing in London have really struggled making the tradition to pro
I don’t think that’s what he was saying. He’s saying it’s tough to judge how good Dickinson is because he plays for the dominant franchise in the CHL, and when we saw him at the World Juniors he didn’t play that well.
 
I don’t think that’s what he was saying. He’s saying it’s tough to judge how good Dickinson is because he plays for the dominant franchise in the CHL, and when we saw him at the World Juniors he didn’t play that well.
I understand what he's saying.

Very strange to discount a guy starring for the dominant CHL franchise when they have the best seccess for pros, by a gigantic amount, the whole while being the dominant franchise of the CHL. Every guy whos starred for London was in the same position.

Even stranger to take a 5 game sample size where every year you see guys look lost as 18 year old and star the next
 

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