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LD Rasmus Dahlin (2018, 1st, BUF) Part 3

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Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.
 
Steve Kournianos said:
Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.
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you also said svechnikov should have went 1st overall last year.
 
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Steve Kournianos said:
Pretty good debate and a legitimate one for either side. I’ve been tracking nightly rookie progress of every rookie since opening night, using a weighted point system from a combination of primary points vs secondary, ES vs PP, Clutch points (game-tying or go-ahead), 5v5 shot attempts, and all Scoring and HD scoring chances, plus zone starts.

I haven’t updated it in a week, but pound for pound, I’d say they are practically even. Only difference is Heiskanen’s points at 5v5 get a bonus for his heavy dzone starts.

Again, it’s only my system and I don’t factor in rates like QoT or QoC, so take it for what you want. xGF is kind of factored with all the scoring chances. For the record, I ranked Dahlin 3rd and Heiskanen 7th in my preseason prospect rankings for Sporting News, and Dahlin was my Rookie of the Month for November.
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...What?

Dahlin's d-zone deployment ES: 51.8%
Heiskanen's d-zone deployment ES: 49.5%
 
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theslatcher said:
...What?

Dahlin's d-zone deployment ES: 51.8%
Heiskanen's d-zone deployment ES: 49.5%
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You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.
 
Steve Kournianos said:
You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.
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Sounds like a good thing for fantasy hockey leagues, but I don't think there's much merit there for determining players' level of play.

And truthfully idk if zone deployment is that good of a metric either.
 
Steve Kournianos said:
You get bonus points for games in which you record a point between 60% or less ozone starts total. One for 51-60, two for 41-50, three for 40 or less. Off of memory, I recall multiple games where Heiskanen recorded a point despite ozone starts less than 40% of the time. Most of Dahlin’s November points came in game where he was 60% or higher. No bonus is given when points aren’t scored, and Dahlin had games between 40-60 where he went pointless.
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You are trying too hard
 
45 point pace. Which would be a good rookie season for anyone. And a great season for anyone 18 years old the whole season. Also he’s a defenseman.
 
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I'll say this Sabres fans, your teams future is a helluva lot brighter than Dallas. Being in the same division as us, we beat them all the time, there's not a lot there and certainly nothing that says they will make any kind of an impact anytime soon.
 
VictoriaJetsFan said:
I'll say this Sabres fans, your teams future is a helluva lot brighter than Dallas. Being in the same division as us, we beat them all the time, there's not a lot there and certainly nothing that says they will make any kind of an impact anytime soon.
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All it takes is a few bottom of the league finishes and high draft picks and then we're right past where they are. Stars D-core is set long term and is young, goaltending duo is good enough, and they just need maybe 2 prospects to hit and become top 6 players. Then we're good :)

And our stupid GM to stop signing old guys
 
Ace said:
45 point pace. Which would be a good rookie season for anyone. And a great season for anyone 18 years old the whole season. Also he’s a defenseman.
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With how slow he started I wouldn't be surprised if he hit 50-60 points.
 
First Quarter to adjust and play safe! Now he will unleash his offensive skillset more and more, he will be a Beast in the leuage, maybe already next season!
 
McClelland said:
First Quarter to adjust and play safe! Now he will unleash his offensive skillset more and more, he will be a Beast in the leuage, maybe already next season!
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I think that he might be considered a beast before the year is done.

He is currently sitting just outside of top 20 for Dmen scoring this year.
 
sadpanda said:
Funny you say that. I've seen you saying silly stuff in the Heiskanen thread aswell.

Both are great players, just shut it kiddos and we can live in peace
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i only started doing as of friday, i do it everytime i see heiskanen mention here because it's been going on for months now and mods here are Pejorative Slured and allow this shit to happen, not even in a subjective thread like "who are the best young dman in the league" it's in this thread a thread about dahlin DAHLIN not anyone else.
 
nickdawg95 said:
i only started doing as of friday, i do it everytime i see heiskanen mention here because it's been going on for months now and mods here are ******ed and allow this **** to happen, not even in a subjective thread like "who are the best young dman in the league" it's in this thread a thread about dahlin DAHLIN not anyone else.
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Well. You are not any better. You got no reason to whine lol
 
His d-zone play hasn't been great the last few games. Some sloppy passes, chasing the play a bit, weak on the puck sometimes.

I might be nit-picking here, but let's not pretend he's perfect. Yet.
 

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