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LD Owen Power - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2021 Draft)

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WRC said:
Most of the guys play in leagues that are not currently operating. This camp is an opportunity to get them safely in a bubble, cfreate chemistry, have high tempo practices, intrasquad games, and exhibition games against some CIS all stars. Just interested in how it can be referred to as "meaningless"?
Also, covid has made everything terrible and I'm not sure that anyone is to blame for Power's unfortunate situation. Hockey Canada did have the dates for this camp set before any of the NCAA conferences announced their schedule.
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So the NCAA should change their entire schedule for 4 Canadian players that are eligible to be on Team Canada? Really?
 
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Reads to me like this is more a necessity due to the academics. Michigan is a very good school and I doubt hockey players are given much preferential treatment from administrators. While it is still a public institution, from my experience many top tier schools largely frown upon athletics outside of basketball and/or football. Especially sports like hockey and lacrosse. Wouldn’t surprise me if they refused to sign off on this or play ball. Maybe I’m wrong.

Pearson is not unaware that being an authoritative dictator who doesn’t let his kids play for their NT will not do anything to help recruiting. I doubt he’s actively hampering this.

Just seems like an unfortunate circumstance where the kid would have to completely withdraw from school in order to play in a two week tourney, then go to the OHL. Given it’s his first semester, I’m not sure what the rules at UM are surrounding re-enrollment, but leaving without even 1 complete first semester on the table before you’ve made a dime or been drafted is probably not his best option in terms of finishing school down the road either, NHL career or not. It’s very different when these guys sign after 1 year or more, when they could have a lot of credits in their pocket.

There’s no bad guy or nationalism at play here imo. Just more 2020 pandemic crap. It stinks.
 
Gopher13 said:
So the NCAA should change their entire schedule for 4 Canadian players that are eligible to be on Team Canada? Really?
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Really????? When the hell did I say anything like that?? My response was towards someone who was trying to lay blame on Hockeycanada for Power's situation, and made it sound like they looked at Michigan's schedule and then set the camp dates.

I don't think blame for this can fall anywhere. I can fully understand why HC is having this extended camp, and I can also understand why NCAA coaches would not want to lose valuable players for almost half their shortened season. I would have to think that Jerry York is royally pissed. Unfortunately if the blame has to go anywhere ..... Covid.

.....On another note, I can just imagine the comments that are going to come from certain posters when Michigan releases Cam York in early December.
 
WRC said:
Really????? When the hell did I say anything like that?? My response was towards someone who was trying to lay blame on Hockeycanada for Power's situation, and made it sound like they looked at Michigan's schedule and then set the camp dates.

I don't think blame for this can fall anywhere. I can fully understand why HC is having this extended camp, and I can also understand why NCAA coaches would not want to lose valuable players for almost half their shortened season. I would have to think that Jerry York is royally pissed. Unfortunately if the blame has to go anywhere ..... Covid.

.....On another note, I can just imagine the comments that are going to come from certain posters when Michigan releases Cam York in early December.
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They already said they would release Power in early December, they wouldn’t release him 2 weeks into November.

Whether HC wants him at that point is up to them
 
WRC said:
Really????? When the hell did I say anything like that?? My response was towards someone who was trying to lay blame on Hockeycanada for Power's situation, and made it sound like they looked at Michigan's schedule and then set the camp dates.

I don't think blame for this can fall anywhere. I can fully understand why HC is having this extended camp, and I can also understand why NCAA coaches would not want to lose valuable players for almost half their shortened season. I would have to think that Jerry York is royally pissed. Unfortunately if the blame has to go anywhere ..... Covid.

.....On another note, I can just imagine the comments that are going to come from certain posters when Michigan releases Cam York in early December.
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Michigan is going to send a few players to World Juniors - York, Beniers, Borderleau, Beecher...and they will miss a few weeks not months like Power would.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
What is learned from it? Nothing. As you said, it’s being had because the OHL and WHL aren’t being played right now. This wouldn’t even be a discussion if they were playing.
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Obviously it wouldn't be happening if they were playing. The majority of camp invites are in this position. I still don't understand how it's a "meaningless" camp. Should they stay home, have a few socially distant skates each week, pump weights and play Xbox. Would that be more meaningful while all of their WJC competition are playing competitive hockey games?
 
Gopher13 said:
Michigan is going to send a few players to World Juniors - York, Beniers, Borderleau, Beecher...and they will miss a few weeks not months like Power would.
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For sure, like any other year. I've got no problem with it. My point was that certain posters will cite national favoritism. Should make for some entertaining comments.
 
This whole thing just seems so easy to solve: if you're holding an uncommonly long camp in a weird season where schedules are all jumbled up, do the best you can, but cut guys some slack. You can't expect guys to miss huge chunks of their regular season just to attend the entire camp. Let guys attend as much of the camp as they can.

The fact that Michigan said "Hey, we'll release him a little later and he can still attend part of the camp" and Canada turned them down is just ridiculous. It's only Michigan doing them a favor in the first place, since they could just say the schedule won't work at all. Choosing beggars, I guess.

Now they might leave him off the roster, which hurts only Team Canada... all for a bad call made by Team Canada.
 
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WRC said:
Obviously it wouldn't be happening if they were playing. The majority of camp invites are in this position. I still don't understand how it's a "meaningless" camp. Should they stay home, have a few socially distant skates each week, pump weights and play Xbox. Would that be more meaningful while all of their WJC competition are playing competitive hockey games?
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I’m saying it’s meaningless from the standpoint of it being useful to these players for the WJC or for the coaches to assess players. You get a lot more out of Power playing for Michigan than taking part in this camp.
 
WRC said:
Really????? When the hell did I say anything like that?? My response was towards someone who was trying to lay blame on Hockeycanada for Power's situation, and made it sound like they looked at Michigan's schedule and then set the camp dates.

I don't think blame for this can fall anywhere. I can fully understand why HC is having this extended camp, and I can also understand why NCAA coaches would not want to lose valuable players for almost half their shortened season. I would have to think that Jerry York is royally pissed. Unfortunately if the blame has to go anywhere ..... Covid.

.....On another note, I can just imagine the comments that are going to come from certain posters when Michigan releases Cam York in early December.
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Michigan’s last game is December 9th...after that have at it
 
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FireBird71 said:
Michigan’s last game is December 9th...after that have at it
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Yes I fully understand that guys. It coincides perfectly with team USA heading to the bubble. I'm skeptical of Power getting the invite to Edmonton. He would have to look really good in Michigan.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I’m saying it’s meaningless from the standpoint of it being useful to these players for the WJC or for the coaches to assess players. You get a lot more out of Power playing for Michigan than taking part in this camp.
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The thing that may be missing is the chemistry/bonding, otherwise Newhook would be waiting until December to join. I understand now what you mean though, the camp is somewhat meaningless for Power's development, draft standing, etc. But with regards to the Canadian Junior team and their preparation for the WJC it is certainly not meaningless, considering so many are not currently playing. (that's what I thought you were saying)
 
CheckingLineCenter said:
Reads to me like this is more a necessity due to the academics. Michigan is a very good school and I doubt hockey players are given much preferential treatment from administrators. While it is still a public institution, from my experience many top tier schools largely frown upon athletics outside of basketball and/or football. Especially sports like hockey and lacrosse. Wouldn’t surprise me if they refused to sign off on this or play ball. Maybe I’m wrong.
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You're right in those two sports.
Basketball and Football are referred to "Head count" sports
scholarship rules differ, as they bring in more money and are 100x more regulated and supervised by the NCAA.

Ive been on Div 1 schlorship, and some comments in here suggesting Power negotiate the world junior in his schlorship and get it in writing which would never happen. And Pearson has never shown bias before all the way back to when he let Mike Cammaleri go to play for Canada two years in a row, or cogliano.

You negotiate financial aid around letter of intents, not time off, otherwise he wouldn't meet the semester credit hours.
 
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bigdog16 said:
Get it in writing and then what? Power wouldnt be able to do anything if Pearson broke the promise anyways. You again show zero knowledge of NCAA
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Why wouldn't Power be able to do anything if he had it in writing. Obviously you have no knowledge of the law.
 
At first I assumed Power wanted to go to the WJR's as badly as I would if I was a young man. The fact that we haven't heard him complain tells me he has other priorities and that's fine. It's his life.

It is hypocritical that so many posters are siding against Power going when, if Power was American and the U.S. was holding an early camp, they'd be furious if he wasn't released.
 
ORRFForever said:
At first I assumed Power wanted to go to the WJR's as badly as I would if I was a young man. The fact that we haven't heard him complain tells me he has other priorities and that's fine. It's his life.

It is hypocritical that so many posters are siding against Power going when, if Power was American and the U.S. was holding an early camp, they'd be furious if he wasn't released.
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No one is siding against Power. They're just not siding against Michigan.
 
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WRC said:
For sure, like any other year. I've got no problem with it. My point was that certain posters will cite national favoritism. Should make for some entertaining comments.
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I don't think he would be released early unless he was American - as I have said before, I'm sure phone calls would be made, and strings would be pulled, to get him on the national team if he was from Mississippi instead of Mississauga - the fact that the training faculty for USA hockey is 20 minutes away from the U.O.M. certainly would help.

Anyone who doesn't believe more of an effort would be made is naïve - intentionally or not.

Having said all that, if Power really wants to be on Team Canada in 2020, he needs to speak up soon. If not, someone else will play at the 7th D-Man.
 
William H Bonney said:
No one is siding against Power. They're just not siding against Michigan.
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Or they're siding against Hockey Canada.

Again, if he was an American kid, most of the posters would be singing a different tune...

* Canadian posters would not care / think he should stay at school.

* American posters would want him at the camp.
 
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As a Canadian, I wanted to see him play and see what all the hype was about. Maybe I'll just have to pay to see Michigan games on line.
 
ORRFForever said:
Why wouldn't Power be able to do anything if he had it in writing. Obviously you have no knowledge of the law.
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The NCAA would literally never allow a contract like this to be signed, for any team. So itd be pointless. This little theory you have would simply never happen. But since you apparently know more about the situation, player, and law more than everyone involved, maybe you should contact the Powers’ and be their attorney

If his first concern was going to play in the World Jrs, which it clearly isnt, he wouldnt be playing in the NCAA
 
ORRFForever said:
I don't think he would be released early unless he was American - as I have said before, I'm sure phone calls would be made, and strings would be pulled, to get him on the national team if he was from Mississippi instead of Mississauga - the fact that the training faculty for USA hockey is 20 minutes away from the U.O.M. certainly would help.

Anyone who doesn't believe more of an effort would be made is naïve - intentionally or not.

Having said all that, if Power really wants to be on Team Canada in 2020, he needs to speak up soon. If not, someone else will play at the 7th D-Man.
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.....if only Team Canada made player selections based on attendance at camps. That would make my life as an American hockey fan a lot easier!
 

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