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LD Owen Power - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2021 Draft)

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ORRFForever said:
If accurate, I was wrong. I'm glad to hear Power is controlling his own destiny. If he is putting schooling first, good for him.
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He’s putting his draft year first.

Gigantic overreaction in here, it only makes sense a guy who wasn’t even on the preliminary camp roster, who is in his draft year, wouldn’t want to miss a month’s worth of games to possibly not even make a team.

Much easier for guys like Newhook and Holloway to leave, they are already drafted. If either guy was in their draft year I guarantee they likely are making the same decision with respect to a month long training camp in a late, shortened season.
 
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BondraTime said:
He’s putting his draft year first.

Gigantic overreaction in here, it only makes sense a guy who wasn’t even on the preliminary camp roster, who is in his draft year, wouldn’t want to miss a month’s worth of games to possibly not even make a team.

Much easier for guys like Newhook and Holloway to leave, they are already drafted. If either guy was in their draft year I guarantee they likely are making the same decision with respect to a month long training camp in a late, shortened season.
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I just hope he plays next year when he can play a much bigger role on Team Canada.
 
Coach Mel Pearson was on Overdrive at TSN at 6:30 discussing this with Hayes/O-Dog/Feschuk. Said he's free to go in December but this being his 1st semester at Michigan they want him to concentrate on academics and acclimatizing himself to the campus and team.
You should be able to find the whole segement on TSN.
 
Rennlist said:
Coach Mel Pearson was on Overdrive at TSN at 6:30 discussing this with Hayes/O-Dog/Feschuk. Said he's free to go in December but this being his 1st semester at Michigan they want him to concentrate on academics and acclimatizing himself to the campus and team.
You should be able to find the whole segement on TSN.
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Not to mention games every weekend til December 10th and they’re all against top notch teams
 
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snipes said:
The NCAA is also a horribly corrupt institution.

“Let’s cancel poor African American basketball/football players for accepting sneakers or a free meal. Only unhealthy meals from a box for you kid. Can’t afford shoes? Walk bare feet to class while giving yourself CTE ruining your body while we make $100s of millions off you on Saturday’s” — Said no one ever except the NCAA.
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I wont disagree with that. NCAA is corrupt for sure. But cmon, you know some of these guys are getting more than sneakers and a free meal, try an exotic sports car and a new house for mom. Which again, i dont think is even wrong

ORRFForever said:
I'm sure many schools wanted the kid so, if Power was wiser, and Hockey Canada had been smart enough to reach out to Power and tell them about their plans for an early camp before he signed, I'm sure a top school would have agreed to the terms.
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Verbally sure. But nothing of this could ever be put in writing or go anywhere if the promise was broken
 
Thats why people needed to stop comparing to the other NCAA athletes like newhook

That first semester as freshman is about getting adjusted to your classes, lift schedules, practices, film sessions.
 
ORRFForever said:
I'd still get a guarantee from Michigan for the Fall of 2021 - a promise to be released (if invited) no matter when the Canadian camp is.
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There is no need. There has literally never been an issue before, and won’t be again, for guys leaving. The only reason there is an issue now is because;

1. It’s a shortened, condensed season that begins te same time as the camp
2. It’s his draft year
3. Canada has implemented a 1 time, month long training camp that will cause Power to miss the first month of his Collegiate career

The camp usually lasts for a week, this one is more than a month of downtime for guys.

Hockey Canada doesn’t need assurances, and Michigan certainly don’t need to give any.
 
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BondraTime said:
There is no need. There has literally never been an issue before, and won’t be again, for guys leaving. The only reason there is an issue now is because;

1. It’s a shortened, condensed season
2. It’s his draft year
3. Canada has implemented a 1 time, month long training camp that will cause Power to miss the first month of his Collegiate career

The camp usually lasts for a week, this one is more than a month of downtime for guys.

Hockey Canada doesn’t need assurances, and Michigan certainly don’t need to give any.
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I didn't saying Hockey Canada needed assurance. I'm saying Power should get a guarantee.

If I was Power...

I wouldn't go back to Michigan without it. I'd make it very clear I was playing for Canada next year - no matter when camp starts. I wouldn't trust Pearson or the University to do the right thing. If there was any pushback, I'd find another school.

But, then again, maybe the World Juniors isn't as much a priority for Power as it would be for me.
 
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ORRFForever said:
I didn't saying Hockey Canada needed assurance. I'm saying Power should get a guarantee.

If I was Power...

I wouldn't go back to Michigan without it. I'd make it very clear I was playing for Canada next year - no matter when camp starts. I wouldn't trust Pearson or the University to do the right thing. If there was any pushback, I'd find another school.

But, then again, maybe the World Juniors isn't as much a priority for Power as it would be for me.
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Thank god you’re not Power
 
ORRFForever said:
I didn't saying Hockey Canada needed assurance. I'm saying Power should get a guarantee.

If I was Power...

I wouldn't go back to Michigan without it. I'd make it very clear I was playing for Canada next year - no matter when camp starts. I wouldn't trust Pearson or the University to do the right thing. If there was any pushback, I'd find another school.

But, then again, maybe the World Juniors isn't as much a priority for Power as it would be for me.
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Thankfully Power knows what he's doing and actually understands things
 
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Isaac Nootin said:
Does anyone really buy the "concentrating on academics" excuse for a player that will be in University for 1 year, maybe 2 max?
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Just because a player may be so talented that they only need 1 or 2 years of development before moving on to professional hockey doesn't mean they don't also take their academics seriously. Many of these guys probably take classes while playing professional hockey so that they can still earn their diploma.
 
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Listening to the interview the coach did, it sounds like the reason he wasn't released is because they couldn't find a resolution with Power's academic department for the courses he takes. It sounds like his class times conflicted with the times that Canada would be practicing each day. People might point to Newhook or Holloway, but the coach explained why their situations are different. They are sophomores, and get to pick their schedule. It's a lot more flexible academically. Power is in his first semester, so the courses he takes are not very flexible, at all. Maybe the faculty at Levi's school are a little more flexible than at Power's, but Northeastern did say they should release him back if its clear he won't be a top 2 goalie.

It also sounds like Power was part of the decision, so I wouldn't be crying foul. If the kid wanted to go, he could've withdrew from the University, and showed up in the OHL in February. That wasn't what he wanted. The topic of Michigan's hockey barely came up the whole interview. It seems pretty clear this isn't a decision that has much to do with Michigan not wanting to lose a good player.

The coach said he'll be available to leave on December 10, the same day American players are eligible to leave. I know some think that American players would be released earlier, but it doesn't seem like it from what the coach said. Maybe those players have very different academic schedules than Power, but its all hypothetical and irrelevant.

Hockey Canada has to take some blame. It sounds like they aren't sure they want to invite him to take part on December 10. Why does he need to take part in this meaningless camp? The coach said he'll be released for the tournament. If Hockey Canada wants him on the team, he'll be on the team. They've potentially put him in a situation where he has to choose between the WJC and staying at Michigan. I don't see why they can't make an exception. It seems like they are purposely putting him in a bad situation. It'd be one thing if he wasn't going to be invited to the camp, but they should be working with their players to find a resolution, not telling them they either comply with their demands or they might be eliminated from consideration to make the team.
 
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Also, WJC camps have always been a couple weeks at most, and always during the NCAA break. I don't think it's fair to say Michigan would release American players but not a Canadian. This is a once in a lifetime scenario with a global pandemic, and Canada is having a month and a half WJC camp. USA isnt having a camp like that. NCAA teams are active, and CHL teams are mostly not, it's not really comparable. If the roles were reversed yeah i would be upset probably but there are a ton of factors in play here, and Power is an incredible prospect, but he's still a fringe player for this team, staying in Michigan is probably best decision for his draft year and he likely has next year's WJC.
 
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ORRFForever said:
Thank God I've learned from my past business experience to ALWAYS get everything in writing. It's a lesson you learn with age. You'll learn it, too.
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Get it in writing and then what? Power wouldnt be able to do anything if Pearson broke the promise anyways. You again show zero knowledge of NCAA
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Listening to the interview the coach did, it sounds like the reason he wasn't released is because they couldn't find a resolution with Power's academic department for the courses he takes. It sounds like his class times conflicted with the times that Canada would be practicing each day. People might point to Newhook or Holloway, but the coach explained why their situations are different. They are sophomores, and get to pick their schedule. It's a lot more flexible academically. Power is in his first semester, so the courses he takes are not very flexible, at all. Maybe the faculty at Levi's school are a little more flexible than at Power's, but Northeastern did say they should release him back if its clear he won't be a top 2 goalie.

It also sounds like Power was part of the decision, so I wouldn't be crying foul. If the kid wanted to go, he could've withdrew from the University, and showed up in the OHL in February. That wasn't what he wanted. The topic of Michigan's hockey barely came up the whole interview. It seems pretty clear this isn't a decision that has much to do with Michigan not wanting to lose a good player.

The coach said he'll be available to leave on December 10, the same day American players are eligible to leave. I know some think that American players would be released earlier, but it doesn't seem like it from what the coach said. Maybe those players have very different academic schedules than Power, but its all hypothetical and irrelevant.

Hockey Canada has to take some blame. It sounds like they aren't sure they want to invite him to take part on December 10. Why does he need to take part in this meaningless camp? The coach said he'll be released for the tournament. If Hockey Canada wants him on the team, he'll be on the team. They've potentially put him in a situation where he has to choose between the WJC and staying at Michigan. I don't see why they can't make an exception. It seems like they are purposely putting him in a bad situation. It'd be one thing if he wasn't going to be invited to the camp, but they should be working with their players to find a resolution, not telling them they either comply with their demands or they might be eliminated from consideration to make the team.
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Most of the guys play in leagues that are not currently operating. This camp is an opportunity to get them safely in a bubble, cfreate chemistry, have high tempo practices, intrasquad games, and exhibition games against some CIS all stars. Just interested in how it can be referred to as "meaningless"?
Also, covid has made everything terrible and I'm not sure that anyone is to blame for Power's unfortunate situation. Hockey Canada did have the dates for this camp set before any of the NCAA conferences announced their schedule.
 
WRC said:
Most of the guys play in leagues that are not currently operating. This camp is an opportunity to get them safely in a bubble, cfreate chemistry, have high tempo practices, intrasquad games, and exhibition games against some CIS all stars. Just interested in how it can be referred to as "meaningless"?
Also, covid has made everything terrible and I'm not sure that anyone is to blame for Power's unfortunate situation. Hockey Canada did have the dates for this camp set before any of the NCAA conferences announced their schedule.
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What is learned from it? Nothing. As you said, it’s being had because the OHL and WHL aren’t being played right now. This wouldn’t even be a discussion if they were playing.
 

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