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LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

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To bad to see that with Juolevi. Still have high hopes for him that he can be a solid top 4 defenseman in the NHL.
 
Recovery is like 6 weeks? He won't be making the big club this year if he basically cant train until the last week of July.
 
Classic Canuck luck.
Oh well. I think there's still a decent chance he sees some time in the NHL this season, just mid-to-late season given the delay in his off-season conditioning. He'll probably start in the AHL and be a call-up for injuries later in the season.
 
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As long as he's healthy in 3-5 years they won't care. Now that the Sedins have finally left they can turn this rebuild into a very special type of tank job.
 
Daniel Sedin had the same surgery before the start of his 2nd NHL season (he had it done in May though, a month earlier in the off season) back in 2001, before he became a star at the NHL level.

These are relatively minor surgeries; the real downside is that it will put Olli a month behind in his training, and a good off season of training is really important for him.

Maybe it works out for the best as it might make him start the season in Utica which is probably the best place for him initially.
 
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It weighs production in professional leagues pretty highly in comparison to junior leagues.
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D production as well. Valimaki at #10, Jokiharju at #14 just because they can score in junior while Liljegren who had a very solid rookie season in the AHL as an 18 year-old at #42. That just doesn't seem to be right. Even more so considering Valimaki turns 20 on 2nd day of the season.
 
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D production as well. Valimaki at #10, Jokiharju at #14 just because they can score in junior while Liljegren who had a very solid rookie season in the AHL as an 18 year-old at #42. That just doesn't seem to be right.
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Maybe his playoff performance has something to do with it? Juolevi for instance was reportedly amazing in playoffs(After the moderately disappointing regular season) and that seems to be reflected in the scoring as well.
 
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Maybe his playoff performance has something to do with it? Juolevi for instance was reportedly amazing in playoffs(After the moderately disappointing regular season) and that seems to be reflected in the scoring as well.
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Yeah, sure, Valimaki is so high because he kept producing in the PO as well. But I don't think he adjusts the coefficient for it or anything it's just that they managed to keep producing at high PPG number while a lot of other players' numbers dip in PO. Nicolas Hague, for example, would be there as well as he had better numbers than Valimaki or Jokiharju in junior before they got "ruined" by his stint in the AHL.

It's kinda the perfect example of a major flaw of this, purely statistical, system. Hague was better than them when he played against the same level of competition and in the rankings he isn't just because he did play against higher level competition as well while the other guys didn't. If he played for a junior team which advanced one round of the playoffs further he would be there at ~#12.
 
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SoundAndFury said:
D production as well. Valimaki at #10, Jokiharju at #14 just because they can score in junior while Liljegren who had a very solid rookie season in the AHL as an 18 year-old at #42. That just doesn't seem to be right. Even more so considering Valimaki turns 20 on 2nd day of the season.
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The Hockey News and Craig Button also had Valimaki quite high and Liljegren quite low. It turns out it is only Leaf fans that were impressed with Liljegren last year. His stock dropped when he only scored 1 goal all season and couldn't produce 5 on 5. He was quite terrible on both ends. Bad in WJC as well.
 

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