LD Olli Juolevi - TPS, Liiga (2016, 5th, VAN)

[93LEAFS]

Shocker that a Canucks website/writer would write something positive about a Canucks prospect.

That's never happened before has it?

It didn't even meet that standard. It was just another poster on a different forum. A new low for a source on this site.

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/377676-olli-juolevi-talk/?page=162

 

[Josepho]

One thing I'm concerned about is the obsession with adding muscle rather than speed.

I think an improved first step would help him more than some extra muscle. He's at a bit of an awkward stage where he isn't exactly fast or strong.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

One thing I'm concerned about is the obsession with adding muscle rather than speed.

I think an improved first step would help him more than some extra muscle. He's at a bit of an awkward stage where he isn't exactly fast or strong.

I think the muscle has to come before the speed, because the muscle helps him get the explosive speed.

 

[Advanced stats]

It didn't even meet that standard. It was just another poster on a different forum. A new low for a source on this site.

http://forum.canucks.com/topic/377676-olli-juolevi-talk/?page=162

Well that's a whole other level of pathetic. Could be the same poster?

 

[Robongo01]

I still think he's going to be more of a great/elite #3 than a 1st pairing guy. Should've picked Tkachuk.

I get that vibe from him as well. Any logical non-Canucks fan/non homer would agree the obvious choice was Tkachuk. Got to stop drafting for positional needs and just take the damn BPA that early on in the first round

 

[Nalyd Psycho]

I get that vibe from him as well. Any logical non-Canucks fan/non homer would agree the obvious choice was Tkachuk. Got to stop drafting for positional needs and just take the damn BPA that early on in the first round

I preferred Keller and Seragachev to both of them. (And, admitting it would be a boom or bust pick, was pulling for them to take Jost.) I have questioned Juolevi 's upside since the beginning and I questioned how much Tkachuk was responsible for his success. I may be wrong about Tkachuk but while Juolevi doesn't Excite me, the pick is not a problem pick.

 

[M2Beezy]

Should of gone

1 Matthews
2 Laine
3 Pullji
4 Tkachuck
5 PLD
6 Keller
7 Jost
8 Juolevi
9 Mcavoy
10 Brown

I think Tkachuck will end up the third best and maybe Keller as hi as 4 and mcavoy the best dman juolevi the 2nd best

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Should of gone

1 Matthews
2 Laine
3 Pullji
4 Tkachuck
5 PLD
6 Keller
7 Jost
8 Juolevi
9 Mcavoy
10 Brown

I think Tkachuck will end up the third best and maybe Keller as hi as 4 and mcavoy the best dman juolevi the 2nd best

I think in a few years there will be more defenseman in that list. Hard to judge from Junior play

 

[Sarcastic]

Hoping Juolevi can have a strong playoffs. Would love to see him help London to lift the Memorial Cup in Windsor. It just seems he hasn't taken that next step this year that many were hoping for. He still has a very high floor, and it will be interesting to see where he ends up as he adds strength and explosiveness. He was always the least physically developed out of McAvoy, Sergachev, and Chychrun.

I want to know your opinion on how he'd do if theoretically he was able to move up to the NHL or AHL. It might have been you or someone else earlier in this thread that suggested that perhaps he's unable to take advantage of his strengths just because of the system and/or personnel that's present in London. What systems would allow him to perform better, and would having more experienced players be a plus to his development?

 

[93LEAFS]

I want to know your opinion on how he'd do if theoretically he was able to move up to the NHL or AHL. It might have been you or someone else earlier in this thread that suggested that perhaps he's unable to take advantage of his strengths just because of the system and/or personnel that's present in London. What systems would allow him to perform better, and would having more experienced players be a plus to his development?

Don't think it was me who said it was system based. He's always played a very reserved game, his skill set is built around great 4-way mobility and making crisp outlet passes and the correct read. I would have hoped he could have taken a more offensive role this year, but Mete has stepped up in that regard, and they have added Vande Sompel. I don't think it would be systems issue, Hunter plays a pretty offensive game.

I haven't seen a significant amount of him this year. I have a feeling he is being used similarly to last year, although London is rolling their lines much more than last year. The impression I get from talking to big Knight fans and people around the league is that his play has leveled off. That's not to say another massive growth won't happen.

 

[biturbo19]

One thing I'm concerned about is the obsession with adding muscle rather than speed.

I think an improved first step would help him more than some extra muscle. He's at a bit of an awkward stage where he isn't exactly fast or strong.

I think those two components can be, and often are pretty much one and the same. Adding more "muscle", strength and power to the lower body and core where hockey players carry a lot of their "bulk" can help with that explosiveness in the skating. Two birds, one stone.

It's when prospects start adding frivolous weight that slows them down that it's a problem, and that can certainly happen. Hopefully that's not where he goes with things this summer. I'd hope a top prospect is getting better guidance than that, but you never know i guess.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I think it's too easy to look at the success Tkachuk is having and be unhappy with the Juolevi pick. Defensemen generally take more time. I don't think anyone was predicting this kind of draft +1 season for Tkachuk.

I know I certainly wasn't.

I said it in the Demko thread too, sometimes patience is required with prospects. Can't give up so early.

 

[lawrence]

I think it's too easy to look at the success Tkachuk is having and be unhappy with the Juolevi pick. Defensemen generally take more time. I don't think anyone was predicting this kind of draft +1 season for Tkachuk.

I know I certainly wasn't.

I said it in the Demko thread too, sometimes patience is required with prospects. Can't give up so early.

No one is giving up here except for MTb, and non Canucks fans trying their absolute best to discourage Canucks fans from being excited about him. Most Canuck fans are happy with the pick, and most of them are fully aware of what type of users are responding to Canucks prospect threads. We have plenty of legit people who actually watch juolevi play that is keeping us up to date, ironically the same Brock boeser, there is one guy that helping us tabs on him.

Let see put it this way, we know how good he is actually doing. His teammates cousin is keeping us up to date, but those comments are a "a new low source" so there's really no point for me to post the

From what it sounds like the only things he needs to work on is strength and his strength on his shot.

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[Coaches Coroner]

No one is giving up here except for MTb, and non Canucks fans trying their absolute best to discourage Canucks fans from being excited about him. Most Canuck fans are happy with the pick, and most of them are fully aware of what type of users are responding to Canucks prospect threads. We have plenty of legit people who actually watch juolevi play that is keeping us up to date, ironically the same Brock boeser, there is one guy that helping us tabs on him.

Let see put it this way, we know how good he is actually doing. His teammates cousin is keeping us up to date, but those comments are a "a new low source" so there's really no point for me to post the

From what it sounds like the only things he needs to work on is strength and his strength on his shot.

5 Canuck fans in the last thread alone disagree with your complaining of other teams fans like 93Leafs. People are discussing a player, some of those people have seen him and are offering up their assessments. Nothing more, no conspiracy to suppress the joy of Canuck fans.

 

[Tim Raines]

Should of gone

1 Matthews
2 Laine
3 Pullji
4 Tkachuck
5 PLD
6 Keller
7 Jost
8 Juolevi
9 Mcavoy
10 Brown

I think Tkachuck will end up the third best and maybe Keller as hi as 4 and mcavoy the best dman juolevi the 2nd best

You think Brown is the better prospect than Sergachev right now eh? Can't say I agree but interesting. In fact, I'd almost argue McLeod could/should have surpassed Brown based on this year.

As for Juolevi, I think he is a great system piece. A good complementary guy to a team's nucleus. He'll never be a dominant #1, but he will fit seamlessly into most lineups. I hate to use the word "safe" but he really is.

 

[M2Beezy]

5 Canuck fans in the last thread alone disagree with your complaining of other teams fans like 93Leafs. People are discussing a player, some of those people have seen him and are offering up their assessments. Nothing more, no conspiracy to suppress the joy of Canuck fans.

Make it 6. That poster is always posting like that unfortunately. just for me reading thru this last few pages i can see 93Leafs is a good source for us to get info about Juolevi

 

[M2Beezy]

No one is giving up here except for MTb, and non Canucks fans trying their absolute best to discourage Canucks fans from being excited about him. Most Canuck fans are happy with the pick, and most of them are fully aware of what type of users are responding to Canucks prospect threads. We have plenty of legit people who actually watch juolevi play that is keeping us up to date, ironically the same Brock boeser, there is one guy that helping us tabs on him.

Let see put it this way, we know how good he is actually doing. His teammates cousin is keeping us up to date, but those comments are a "a new low source" so there's really no point for me to post the

From what it sounds like the only things he needs to work on is strength and his strength on his shot.

Show me where ive given up on him PLEASE. I said we should of drafted other players instead of him because they were/are better. I think its obvi he will be a nhl dman and probably a middle pair but i hope to the heavens he can become a #1 stud. But hope and reality are not always the same thing bub try to grab a clue

 

[Bankerguy]

I watched more than half of his games this season...I tried to pay extra close attention to him.

The guy is a stud. Going to be a 30-35 point, two-way, top pairing #2 dman. One of those mistake free guys who makes key plays in all three zones, a real unsung hero type.

Reminds me of a less offensive and kind of taller version of Sergei Zubov circa 1996-2000

 

[Flames Fanatic]

No one is giving up here except for MTb, and non Canucks fans trying their absolute best to discourage Canucks fans from being excited about him. Most Canuck fans are happy with the pick, and most of them are fully aware of what type of users are responding to Canucks prospect threads. We have plenty of legit people who actually watch juolevi play that is keeping us up to date, ironically the same Brock boeser, there is one guy that helping us tabs on him.

Let see put it this way, we know how good he is actually doing. His teammates cousin is keeping us up to date, but those comments are a "a new low source" so there's really no point for me to post the

From what it sounds like the only things he needs to work on is strength and his strength on his shot.

Sorry. Give up was the wrong terminology on my part. I meant it in the sense that it's too early to say that Tkachuk should have gone before. Just because he's making an impact now doesn't mean that Juolevi won't have a bigger one in the future sort of thing.

 

[lawrence]

I watched more than half of his games this season...I tried to pay extra close attention to him.

The guy is a stud. Going to be a 30-35 point, two-way, top pairing #2 dman. One of those mistake free guys who makes key plays in all three zones, a real unsung hero type.

Reminds me of a less offensive and kind of taller version of Sergei Zubov circa 1996-2000

totally fine with that. I wasn't expecting him to be a number 1 defensemen either. Of course, the dream is he becomes the next LIdstrom lol.

 

[polarbearcub]

totally fine with that. I wasn't expecting him to be a number 1 defensemen either. Of course, the dream is he becomes the next LIdstrom lol.

Ollie is the new age type of d man. Puck retrieval and transition.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

I like Juolevi a lot - and always have - but I don't feel his game has progressed much this year. I'm not entirely sure why.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back in London for another season.

 

[BB88]

I like Juolevi a lot - and always have - but I don't feel his game has progressed much this year. I'm not entirely sure why.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back in London for another season.

I'd like to see him play pro hockey next year.

Learn to play against stronger guys. I think he was build to play pro game, and will/would look better in pro league in comparison to OHL.

 

[Ryp37]

I'd like to see him play pro hockey next year.

Learn to play against stronger guys. I think he was build to play pro game, and will/would look better in pro league in comparison to OHL.

Wouldn't mind him going to Finland for a year to do exactly this.

 

[JJTT]

I'd like to see him play pro hockey next year.

Learn to play against stronger guys. I think he was build to play pro game, and will/would look better in pro league in comparison to OHL.

Wouldn't mind him going to Finland for a year to do exactly this.

He had multiple offers to play pro hockey in Europe this season but declined them. Can't see next season being any different.