LD Lane Hutson - Montreal Canadiens, NHL (2022, 62nd, MTL) - Part 2

Time will tell if he can be an allround defenceman or if he will be a PP specialist and a player put on the ice only when the faceoffs are in the opponents zone or if he can be a complete all situation player. His size will always limit him some as he will at times get outmuscled, but with good skating, stickwork, positioning and a good read of the game he can be a quality player in his own zone. Anyways you mostly will want a guy like Hutson to get to the offensive zone where he can control play and create opportunities. You just need him to not be a liability in his own end to be an effective overall player. Theres no doubt hes good in the offensive zone and already as a rookie are among the leagues best in that department.
 
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Time will tell if he can be an allround defenceman or if he will be a PP specialist and a player put on the ice only when the faceoffs are in the opponents zone or if he can be a complete all situation player. His size will always limit him some as he will at times get outmuscled, but with good skating, stickwork, positioning and a good read of the game he can be a quality player in his own zone. Anyways you mostly will want a guy like Hutson to get to the offensive zone where he can control play and create opportunities. You just need him to not be a liability in his own end to be an effective overall player. Theres no doubt hes good in the offensive zone and already as a rookie are among the leagues best in that department.
I think that’s where the “above average defensively “ talk is coming from
We saw a pretty good stretch of games (20-25?) where Hutson was “good enough “ defensively.

He has not been good period for the past few games. Is it a lack of confidence, fatigue, teams figuring him out or a combination of everything.

I still think he’ll be good enough with the right partner to form a very good first pairing
 
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He got clowned but uhhh, Larkin is one of the weakest in the league? Lmao.
Yeah moderator removed my comment calling out the salty sens fan's caption, but it's the best video I could find of the play. In the NHL and especially the playoffs, he will be very exploitable by bigger and faster players as demonstrated by Larkin.
 
You weren’t seeing things
He’s looked shaky for a while. I never thought he was a stud defensively but he has had many games where it was uneventful in our end for him.

I don’t like matheson as a partner for him. He plays a panicky rushed game himself
Matheson was the worst player on the ice that night, so I'd agree he's not the right guy for him
 
You have one of the worst goals against average in the entire league. Your defense sucks. Lane Hutson playing top 2 minutes on defense on your team doesn’t mean he’s not bad defensively either, just that his offense and player development is worth giving him those minutes. But don’t get it twisted, he sucks defensively at this stage in his career. He may develop to being a plus on defense, but right now he is not.
How many empty net goals has been scored when Lane was on the ice?
Hell Celebrina is a -20 .I guess he's a liability when on the ice which must means he sucks defensively also.
 
I think that’s where the “above average defensively “ talk is coming from
We saw a pretty good stretch of games (20-25?) where Hutson was “good enough “ defensively.

He has not been good period for the past few games. Is it a lack of confidence, fatigue, teams figuring him out or a combination of everything.

I still think he’ll be good enough with the right partner to form a very good first pairing
Too many extremists on both sides have pushed the discussion beyond where it should be. With a player like Hutson "good enough" is a solid place to start. His offense will almost always outweigh any defensive deficiencies and there is no shame in Hutson having some defensive struggles from time to time.
 
He got clowned but uhhh, Larkin is one of the weakest in the league? Lmao.
Interesting clip to pick.

- Hutson got himself into position, forced his man to put the puck into safety.

- His man, Larkin, had first step and got behind Hutson, Hutson moderately took away most of his options.

- Suzuki comes in for support, leaves his man undefended. Larkin's only options are to push it back to the point of put it to the middle of the ice, he doesn't have ice to skate to and his cycle options are closed. He sees Suzuki's coverage is off and takes what otherwise would have been the poor option.

It wasn't a great play by Hutson but isn't an example of him being bad at d. An elite defender would've held Larkin and shut him down, most would've ended in the same position.
 
Matheson experiment over . Guhle moved to his off side to play with Hutson

Edit: hutson playing off side with guhle

Still not ideal but better
 
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Interesting clip to pick.

- Hutson got himself into position, forced his man to put the puck into safety.

- His man, Larkin, had first step and got behind Hutson, Hutson moderately took away most of his options.

- Suzuki comes in for support, leaves his man undefended. Larkin's only options are to push it back to the point of put it to the middle of the ice, he doesn't have ice to skate to and his cycle options are closed. He sees Suzuki's coverage is off and takes what otherwise would have been the poor option.

It wasn't a great play by Hutson but isn't an example of him being bad at d. An elite defender would've held Larkin and shut him down, most would've ended in the same position.
You don't think letting Larkin go right by him while maintaining possession and then look for a pass is an example of a bad defensive play? Do you have a better example?
 
You don't think letting Larkin go right by him while maintaining possession and then look for a pass is an example of a bad defensive play? Do you have a better example?
Of the 6 motions of the play, Hutson only had 1 that was bad defensively on it, getting muscled as Larkin turned. He still limited Larkin's options and prevented Larkin from making an individual play, the goal is a result of Slaf (not Suzuki as I originally thought) losing his man.

Hutson wasn't great defensively on that play but people using that as an example of him being bad defensively likely haven't played hockey at any reasonable level.

Hutson did enough to limit Larkin's chances on that play, a great defensive player would have done a bit more. The play ended up in the safe zone with limited option available to Larkin, Larkin only had 2 options available to him (the point and where he passed to). Slaf losing his man was the bigger defensive issue on that play.
 
Of the 6 motions of the play, Hutson only had 1 that was bad defensively on it, getting muscled as Larkin turned. He still limited Larkin's options and prevented Larkin from making an individual play, the goal is a result of Slaf (not Suzuki as I originally thought) losing his man.

Hutson wasn't great defensively on that play but people using that as an example of him being bad defensively likely haven't played hockey at any reasonable level.

Hutson did enough to limit Larkin's chances on that play, a great defensive player would have done a bit more. The play ended up in the safe zone with limited option available to Larkin, Larkin only had 2 options available to him (the point and where he passed to). Slaf losing his man was the bigger defensive issue on that play.
He may have attempted to play it correctly, but he simply could not. You say 1 bad motion, but to me that just looks like he gets completely bodied out of the way in what seems to be a pretty repeatable manner and makes the entire sequence possible. Admittedly, Dylan Larkin is built solid and is fast, but seems problematic defensively if you can just dump pucks in on him and maintain possession consistently.
 
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Interesting clip to pick.

- Hutson got himself into position, forced his man to put the puck into safety.

- His man, Larkin, had first step and got behind Hutson, Hutson moderately took away most of his options.

- Suzuki comes in for support, leaves his man undefended. Larkin's only options are to push it back to the point of put it to the middle of the ice, he doesn't have ice to skate to and his cycle options are closed. He sees Suzuki's coverage is off and takes what otherwise would have been the poor option.

It wasn't a great play by Hutson but isn't an example of him being bad at d. An elite defender would've held Larkin and shut him down, most would've ended in the same position.

This is a rosy way to view Larkin banking it off the boards, blowing Hutson's doors off, receiving his own bank pass, and then muscling Hutson off him like a small child before dishing it to Berggren for the goal.
 
It took me this long to watch the clip and while I'm pretty tired of hearing the Hutson hype, that play is just whatever. These plays happens to defenders all the time, and it's not like Hutson's play lead to a breakaway or something, there was plenty of chances for others to stop that goal. Seems like people are just looking for him to make mistakes to counter the over the top hype.
 

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