LD Daniil Pylenkov - Dynamo Moscow, KHL (2021, 196th, TBL)

[Caser]

Assist here (I guess officially counts only as secondary):

 

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[GoBoltz56]

Gusev to Pylenkov...what could have been in Tampa.

 

[barriers]

Pylenkov signs 2 year extension with Dynamo Moscow

 

[Kshahdoo]

It looks like his talks with Tampa weren't very fruitful...

Why does Tampa put its prospects off, I wonder...

 

[GoBoltz56]

Brutal. But maybe he just didn't want to come.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Brutal. But maybe he just didn't want to come.

Nah, he wanted to come, but then somehow changed his mind. Hard to say why.

 

[barriers]

Nah, he wanted to come, but then somehow changed his mind. Hard to say why.

Probably a combination of guaranteed money to stay close to home and family, not wanting to ride a bus around Northeast America for a 5-figure salary in a high-tax state, and the chance to play with Ovi when he returns to Dynamo in 2026.

I understand ELC conditions for younger players but when you're talking about a 24 year old with 6 professional KHL seasons under his belt, not being able to even sign a 1-way contract for guaranteed money isn't going to entice some guys to make the jump across the pond.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Weird... Looked like he was willing to go AHL and all of necessary

 

[Kshahdoo]

Weird... Looked like he was willing to go AHL and all of necessary

Maybe his agent told him, he would be 25 soon and playing in the AHL is a bad idea...

 

[Caser]

He has now one of the top D salaries in the KHL... I mean, as much as I like him, but this looks like an overpayment, Dynamo surely wanted to make him stay.

 

[GoBoltz56]

He has now one of the top D salaries in the KHL... I mean, as much as I like him, but this looks like an overpayment, Dynamo surely wanted to make him stay.

Probably explains why he stayed. Paid more than an entry level contract.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Perhaps the allure of playing with the greatest goal-scorer in NHL history in the season after next was too good to pass up.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Probably explains why he stayed. Paid more than an entry level contract.

I'm pretty sure it's not just this. Tampa treats its prospects the way they don't like. I mean, it's not just Pylenkov, what about Howard?

For Pylenkov it's one year ELC. Say, they send him to the AHL. Can anybody guarantee they will promote him to the main club during the season? No. I'm pretty sure he asked Tampa about this and got the answer he didn't like. As I said before he's already almost 25, people of this age usually hate uncertainty, so when he got good proposal from his KHL club, no wonder he accepted it.

 

[GoBoltz56]

I'm pretty sure it's not just this. Tampa treats its prospects the way they don't like. I mean, it's not just Pylenkov, what about Howard?

For Pylenkov it's one year ELC. Say, they send him to the AHL. Can anybody guarantee they will promote him to the main club during the season? No. I'm pretty sure he asked Tampa about this and got the answer he didn't like. As I said before he's already almost 25, people of this age usually hate uncertainty, so when he got good proposal from his KHL club, no wonder he accepted it.

How can anyone be "guaranteed a promotion"? You're either good enough to play in the NHL or you're not. If he doesn't like the answer, it's fine. He made his decision.

 

[Caser]

How can anyone be "guaranteed a promotion"? You're either good enough to play in the NHL or you're not. If he doesn't like the answer, it's fine. He made his decision.

Frequently some players can be good enough, however due to the logjam they are forced to stay in the AHL and get opportunities only in case of injuries until a trade is made. As some sort of a guarantee, Russian players frequently ask for an AHL-out conditional clause - like let's say if a player is still in the AHL by December then this clause kicks in and they are free to go, which forces the organization to make some decisions faster, obviously not all organizations are big fans of that kind of clauses though.