LD Aron Kiviharju - IFK Helsinki, Liiga (2024, 122nd, MIN) Part2

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Measured at 5’9.5. I doubt he goes top 3 rounds now

I don’t think that’s so bad. He will get listed as 5’10 now. The “bad” listing is usually shorter than 5’10.

 

[DougBodger]

A team that wants Kivijarju for his potential isn't going to care about a half inch size difference. They knew he was below average height before and that ain't going to change at the combine.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[TGWL]

Measured at 5’9.5. I doubt he goes top 3 rounds now

I hope so. This player gives me Adam Fox vibes with being a better skater. The vision and seeing the play develop seems to be there with him. No idea how that will translate to the NHL with faster forecheckers and players bumping you all over the place, but I think his ability to see the play develop quickly will bail him out from those situations. I don't see him dropping past the mid second round, and that's even with the concerns of height and his season injury preventing a good evaluation.

 

[Sampe from the 2000s]

Very NHL translatable and high-end English skills. Not ideal for Tiki Talk, but has borderline elite ability to communicate with fans, reporters, coaches, teammates, referees, and opponents. Overuses some phrases, which is the modus operandi for all hockey players/fans (myself included). Won't starve to death if he needs to order some food. Plus he can use Finnish if he wants to hide his strategies or mess with opponents. Should raise his stock by half a round at least.

 

[saintunspecified]

Very NHL translatable and high-end English skills. Not ideal for Tiki Talk, but has borderline elite ability to communicate with fans, reporters, coaches, teammates, referees, and opponents. Overuses some phrases, which is the modus operandi for all hockey players/fans (myself included). Won't starve to death if he needs to order some food. Plus he can use Finnish if he wants to hide his strategies or mess with opponents. Should raise his stock by half a round at least.

idk about that, but he certainly a better communicator than, say, a writer for a toronto tabloid

 

[bigdog16]

Very NHL translatable and high-end English skills. Not ideal for Tiki Talk, but has borderline elite ability to communicate with fans, reporters, coaches, teammates, referees, and opponents. Overuses some phrases, which is the modus operandi for all hockey players/fans (myself included). Won't starve to death if he needs to order some food. Plus he can use Finnish if he wants to hide his strategies or mess with opponents. Should raise his stock by half a round at least.

Lol elite ability to communicate? Wtf are we doing here

 

[leafs4life94]

If speaking English raised draft stock I'd be a first rounder

 

[Sampe from the 2000s]

Lol elite ability to communicate? Wtf are we doing here

We are joking here (I thought that was obvious). But seriously, for a first time draft eligible Finn, this is pretty much as good as it gets. Hence, borderline elite for a non-native hockey player at his age. He'll get even better in time of course. Yet when a scout calls someone an elite skater, it doesn't mean he could match the fastest speed skaters on the planet today. Or when a scout thinks your strength level is elite, it doesn't mean you could go toe to toe with Tom Stoltman. Same thing here. I don't require you to match a literature Nobel winner in language skills to call your communication abilities elite.

 

[Svedu]

It's not only his English, for me it's mostly that he seems outgoing and not to shy or a introvert like a couple of other finns. Almost the biggest mouth I've seen from a Finnish prospect since Laine without the cockiness. I actually think this is a positive sign and could be good and makes things easier for him.
Just hope his skating will improve a lot and that those injuries didn't ruin him like with other prospects like Joni Ikonen, Juolevi and others.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

If speaking English raised draft stock I'd be a first rounder

I wouldn't get drafted.

 

[saintunspecified]

It's not only his English, for me it's mostly that he seems outgoing and not to shy or a introvert like a couple of other finns. Almost the biggest mouth I've seen from a Finnish prospect since Laine without the cockiness.

Aatu Raty overshares like he's on tumblr, and isn't cocky. He's also got excellent language skills. I don't think this is so unusual.

 

[Svedu]

Aatu Raty overshares like he's on tumblr, and isn't cocky. He's also got excellent language skills. I don't think this is so unusual.

With all the respect, you are mentioning one other player lol. Kapanen and other kids who lived in the NA doesn't count.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Measured at 5’9.5. I doubt he goes top 3 rounds now

That's bigger than Hutson was listed, so I could see a team with an extra 2nd taking a chance on him

 

[wetcoast]

I wouldn't get drafted.

mee neether.

I can see a team with multiple top 64 picks taking him late first or early second rounder as his skillset is very enticing but he is a bit of a project and a high risk/reward type of pick.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Aron Kiviharju — 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More

Aron Kiviharju was once the top prospect eligible for the 2024 draft, but his stock has fallen due to injury.

thehockeywriters.com

2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile: Aron Kivharju | Inside The Rink

The Scouting Report: Even though Aron Kiviharju grew up in Finland, he was born in Esbjerg, Denmark. He has gained popularity, especially since he was recognized for his skills at just 11 years old. In the 2021-22 season, he played four games with the TPS U18 team before moving up to the U20...

insidetherink.com

Aron Kiviharju | DRAFT | New Jersey Devils

The Finnish defenseman brings a high hockey IQ and quarterbacks power plays

www.nhl.com

 

[TGWL]

Aron Kiviharju — 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More

Aron Kiviharju was once the top prospect eligible for the 2024 draft, but his stock has fallen due to injury.

thehockeywriters.com

2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile: Aron Kivharju | Inside The Rink

The Scouting Report: Even though Aron Kiviharju grew up in Finland, he was born in Esbjerg, Denmark. He has gained popularity, especially since he was recognized for his skills at just 11 years old. In the 2021-22 season, he played four games with the TPS U18 team before moving up to the U20...

insidetherink.com

Aron Kiviharju | DRAFT | New Jersey Devils

The Finnish defenseman brings a high hockey IQ and quarterbacks power plays

www.nhl.com

In the second video they said he looks bigger. Does anybody have his actual combine height/weight? Was it still 5'9.5?

 

[bigdog16]

In the second video they said he looks bigger. Does anybody have his actual combine height/weight? Was it still 5'9.5?

5'9 1/2, 184 lbs

 

[TGWL]

5'9 1/2, 184 lbs

Yeah, I didn't think the jump was going to be what they said in that he looks 6 feet.

 

[DougBodger]

How many guys 5'10" or shorter have been >180 lbs on draft day? This kid is either built already or eating too much pizza.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

How many guys 5'10" or shorter have been >180 lbs on draft day? This kid is either built already or eating too much pizza.

Ty Nelson last year.

 

[LeProspector]

How many guys 5'10" or shorter have been >180 lbs on draft day? This kid is either built already or eating too much pizza.

try already matured

 

[UpsideHockey]

Aron Kiviharju - UPSIDE - 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profiles​

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[Kiekura]

What happened? Still not drafted.

 

[Hinterland]

What happened? Still not drafted.

I have no idea. I get that he's not trending nicely but come on. Not sure what he did to deserve this. For some reason seems to be on team's no draft list or he'd be long gone.