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KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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Been quiet here the last week or two in part because work has been busy, which cuts into my typical banter time (man, I missed out on a good horror discussion!), but also because I briefly dedicated my watching attention to the six original Star Trek movies. I am not a Trek fan. Not not a fan, but someone with just a passing knowledge of the series’ history and no real firm opinion either way. Trek-curious, perhaps may be the best way to put it. Saw several of these in my youth — definitely 1-4. Not sure I ever saw 5 and 6 in full.

One overarching thought after all six is that I appreciated how small several of these actually are. Big at the time in terms of cost and execution and notreriety, but almost small and TV-like through today’s lens of what giant IP blockbusters are. There’s usually a big idea at the heart of these (earth destruction, finding god, universal peace) but the storytelling is still pretty small. Limited cast, only a few sets, not as out in the “world” as one may think, especially for something with galaxy-spanning scope baked into the concept. What they lack is the 20-30 minutes of heavy CGI action that movies are capable of today that just wasn’t the norm them. I didn’t miss it. Also, I do know enough to know Trek is the more intellectual and less whiz-bang-boom of the sci-if properties out there so that factors in too. Not a single movie passes the two hour mark. Efficient, mostly effective storytelling.

On a movie by movie basis, I don’t think I wound up at a wildly different place from fans.

Kahn was my favorite. An efficient, well-plotted, exciting story. Character-driven action. A prime example of good genre/series storytelling. I don’t have a ton to say about the acting across the six movies, but Shatner is at his best here. Legit good. Sure it’s fun to laugh at his anguished KAAAAAHHHHHNNNN but he’s actually nicely subtle in the interactions with Julie and David. It isn’t hard to guess at their connections, but Shatner handles them with an admirable awkwardness that says more any words would.

Voyage Home next. Easily the most fun. Light and spirited in ways the other movies aren’t. A little corny, but also quite enjoyable.

Undiscovered Country. The “biggest” in scope. More world hopping, better production values, a more intricate plot. The most movie of all the movies. Professionally done across the board.

The Motion Picture. Weird and trippy and more 2001/Close Encounters than an adventure movie. It’s almost shockingly slow and uneventful (sooo many slow pans of the ship). STILL, I kinda like it for all those oddities. Oddly charming and old school. The reveal was cool and the outfits are outrageous.

Final Frontier. Meh. Interesting premise, but I’ll remember it more for Tupac lifting a line from it for the song Pain than for anything that actually happens in the movie. Too much jet boot humor.

Search for Spock. Dull and lifeless. What should by all counts be a pretty emotional journey is just flat. Doesn’t help that I think this is where the acting abilities can’t carry the weight requrired.
 

Puck

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The United States vs Billie Holiday, Directed by Lee Daniels, 6.0

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A stellar performance by Andra Day deserving of an Oscar nomination. A great vehicle for showcasing Day, less so for Billie Holiday however. There's something missing in the storytelling, can't quite put my finger on it. A 2 hour movie, it felt like 3 hours, I was looking at my watch halfway through, never a good sign. Can't help but feel the Holiday story was short-changed here although I hear it is more factual than Diana Ross' Lady Sings the Blues (don't remember seeing). Day carries the movie on her shoulders, with the film production's execution itself missing the mark somewhat (could have been done better IMHO notwithstanding Day's stellar rendition and accomplishment). Day gets a 9.0 rating, the film only gets a 6.0. Hulu.


The Letter Room, Directed by Elvira Lind, 6.9

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When a corrections officer is transferred to the letter room, he soon finds himself enmeshed in a prisoner's deeply private life.

Nominated for an Oscar in the Short film category. Nothing special but I liked it. The mood and tone is very well set here. Solid performance by Oscar Isaac of Star Wars fame (Poe), he easily pulls us into the short story. On Mubi.
 
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Pranzo Oltranzista

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Been quiet here the last week or two in part because work has been busy, which cuts into my typical banter time (man, I missed out on a good horror discussion!), but also because I briefly dedicated my watching attention to the six original Star Trek movies. I am not a Trek fan. Not not a fan, but someone with just a passing knowledge of the series’ history and no real firm opinion either way. Trek-curious, perhaps may be the best way to put it. Saw several of these in my youth — definitely 1-4. Not sure I ever saw 5 and 6 in full.

One overarching thought after all six is that I appreciated how small several of these actually are. Big at the time in terms of cost and execution and notreriety, but almost small and TV-like through today’s lens of what giant IP blockbusters are. There’s usually a big idea at the heart of these (earth destruction, finding god, universal peace) but the storytelling is still pretty small. Limited cast, only a few sets, not as out in the “world” as one may think, especially for something with galaxy-spanning scope baked into the concept. What they lack is the 20-30 minutes of heavy CGI action that movies are capable of today that just wasn’t the norm them. I didn’t miss it. Also, I do know enough to know Trek is the more intellectual and less whiz-bang-boom of the sci-if properties out there so that factors in too. Not a single movie passes the two hour mark. Efficient, mostly effective storytelling.

On a movie by movie basis, I don’t think I wound up at a wildly different place from fans.

Kahn was my favorite. An efficient, well-plotted, exciting story. Character-driven action. A prime example of good genre/series storytelling. I don’t have a ton to say about the acting across the six movies, but Shatner is at his best here. Legit good. Sure it’s fun to laugh at his anguished KAAAAAHHHHHNNNN but he’s actually nicely subtle in the interactions with Julie and David. It isn’t hard to guess at their connections, but Shatner handles them with an admirable awkwardness that says more any words would.

Voyage Home next. Easily the most fun. Light and spirited in ways the other movies aren’t. A little corny, but also quite enjoyable.

Undiscovered Country. The “biggest” in scope. More world hopping, better production values, a more intricate plot. The most movie of all the movies. Professionally done across the board.

The Motion Picture. Weird and trippy and more 2001/Close Encounters than an adventure movie. It’s almost shockingly slow and uneventful (sooo many slow pans of the ship). STILL, I kinda like it for all those oddities. Oddly charming and old school. The reveal was cool and the outfits are outrageous.

Final Frontier. Meh. Interesting premise, but I’ll remember it more for Tupac lifting a line from it for the song Pain than for anything that actually happens in the movie. Too much jet boot humor.

Search for Spock. Dull and lifeless. What should by all counts be a pretty emotional journey is just flat. Doesn’t help that I think this is where the acting abilities can’t carry the weight requrired.

I will admit that I've never seen a single Star Trek film. And I've taught a sci-fi films class. :dunce:
 

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The Night of the Hunter (1955) directed by Charles Laughton

In the deep south, a psychotic preacher and serial killer, Reverend Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) seduces a widowed mother (Shelley Winters) of two children in order to steal $10,000. Mitchum plays a very terrifying and charming serial killer, that although the film is more of a thriller than a horror movie, it is genuinely terrifying movie. Part of this is its use of bold shadows in its cinematography. The film is clearly influenced by German expressionism from the silent era and it is an effect style for this story of Puritan good versus evil. I was also surprised by how much this film is referenced in other films, the most obvious examples being the left hand/right hand hate/love in Spike Lee’s Do The Right Thing, and the hymn “Leaning on Everlasting Love” in the Coen brothers’ True Grit. Likely the greatest film by a one-off director and it’s a shame that this bombed at the box office and Laughton never directed again.

 

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Top Gun (1986) - 5/10

You know how shows like Family Guy & The Simpsons parody parts of films and you think it's an exagerration? This isn't an exaggeration, this film stinks of the ultracheese. One Letterboxd reviewer accurately wrote "there's no way this is a real movie." Even the flight scenes aren't enough to save it and get confusing and repetitive by the end.

They are releasing a sequel and with a respectable director in charge which leads me to think that there's no way the sequel can be worse in this case if only for the change in tone. I'm sure special effect improvements will help with the flight scenes too.
 

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The Night of the Hunter (1955) directed by Charles Laughton

In the deep south, a psychotic preacher and serial killer, Reverend Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) seduces a widowed mother (Shelley Winters) of two children in order to steal $10,000. Mitchum plays a very terrifying and charming serial killer, that although the film is more of a thriller than a horror movie, it is genuinely terrifying movie. Part of this is its use of bold shadows in its cinematography. The film is clearly influenced by German expressionism from the silent era and it is an effect style for this story of Puritan good versus evil. I was also surprised by how much this film is referenced in other films, the most obvious examples being the left hand/right hand hate/love in Spike Lee’s Do The Right Thing, and the hymn “Leaning on Everlasting Love” in the Coen brothers’ True Grit. Likely the greatest film by a one-off director and it’s a shame that this bombed at the box office and Laughton never directed again.


Memorable film. The fact that it tanked devastated Charles Laughton. He had studied DW Griffith films before making it. He was reminded of being a fan of Lilian Gish back in the day and that's how she was cast. Was said to be Robert Mitchum's own personal favorite performance. Laurence Olivier had been interested in that role at one point. Just thinking of good and evil brings back the film.
 

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Man, I might be the only one here who dislike The Night of the Hunter.
:laugh:

I appreciate all the tidbits and observations about the movie, but the product just does not impress me. Furthermore, I am actually turned off Mitchum's performance. That zombie like movement creeps me out.
:laugh:
 

Spring in Fialta

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The Montreal Canadiens in Overtime (2021) - Disaster of a film. Plot holes galore, non-sensical decisions by characters, including the major ones. Subsequent explanations that don't make sense. Predictable ending. Avoid at all costs. I can't believe I waste my time with this series of awful films. Nine films. All as bad as the one that comes before it.
 

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The Montreal Canadiens in Overtime (2021) - Disaster of a film. Plot holes galore, non-sensical decisions by characters, including the major ones. Subsequent explanations that don't make sense. Predictable ending. Avoid at all costs. I can't believe I waste my time with this series of awful films. Nine films. All as bad as the one that comes before it.
It's a remake, though. The early instalments in the series are much better. The late '60s version is highly recommended, and the late '70s version is almost its equal. Subtitles.
 
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Man, I might be the only one here who dislike The Night of the Hunter.
:laugh:

I appreciate all the tidbits and observations about the movie, but the product just does not impress me. Furthermore, I am actually turned off Mitchum's performance. That zombie like movement creeps me out.
:laugh:
I can kind of see your point. I've always found it an uncomfortable movie to watch, but I took that as a measure of its effectiveness.
 

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The Montreal Canadiens in Overtime (2021) - Disaster of a film. Plot holes galore, non-sensical decisions by characters, including the major ones. Subsequent explanations that don't make sense. Predictable ending. Avoid at all costs. I can't believe I waste my time with this series of awful films. Nine films. All as bad as the one that comes before it.
Don't know about this new strategy of 3 forwards in ot. Most forwards can't skate backwards very well, that was painful to watch the winning goal last night (all three). Didn't two run into each other the other game?

Desperate times...
 

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The Night of the Hunter (1955) directed by Charles Laughton

I watched it for the first time just last year and had very similar thoughts. Here's my review in case you're interested and missed it (it might've been before you were around):
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The Night of the Hunter (1955) - 8/10 (Loved it)

During the Great Depression, a crooked "pastor" (Robert Mitchum) worms his way into a rural community and the family of a widow (Shelley Winters) in order to discover where her dead husband hid a pile of money, a secret that only her two young children know. This thriller directed by Charles Laughton (yes, that Charles Laughton) reminded me a lot of Cape Fear (which would come later and also feature Mitchum terrorizing a family). It's too bad that this was the only film that Laughton ever directed because it has a great "folk noir" style and is genuinely creepy. Mitchum delivers a fantastically sinister performance as a man who quotes Scripture and sings hymns, but is actually evil through and through. It's like an anti-Going My Way, since, instead of a kind, singing pastor helping children and eschewing money, it's a crooked, singing "pastor" hunting down children for money. The theme is very black and white--it's good vs evil--making it feel very much like a 1950s film, yet the subject also really makes it stand out in that decade. I can see why it wasn't a success at the time (which is what discouraged Laughton from ever directing again) and I can also see why it's been positively re-assessed by later generations and is now considered a classic. The cinematography, with lots of playing on light and shadows, is excellent. I also liked the soundtrack and the frequent use of folk hymns is one of the most enduring (and enduringly creepy) aspects of the entire film. I may not be able to listen to the hymn "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" the same away again. For the most part, it has a good pace. It drags a bit near the end and the pastor's fate isn't very satisfying, but those weren't enough to hurt my enjoyment much. I still loved it and am glad that I finally discovered it. If you feel like an old-fashioned, Cape Fear-like thriller or in seeing one of Mitchum's more effective performances and can tolerate the religiosity, you can find it on Prime Video.
It just occurred to me: I wonder if Laughton might've admired and been trying to copy Hitchcock, a fellow Brit whom he'd worked with a few times and who excelled with a genre and style similar to this, and that's part of why he was devastated when it wasn't a success.
 
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Man, I might be the only one here who dislike The Night of the Hunter.
:laugh:

I appreciate all the tidbits and observations about the movie, but the product just does not impress me. Furthermore, I am actually turned off Mitchum's performance. That zombie like movement creeps me out.
:laugh:
Laughton described it as 'a nightmarish tale of Mother Goose'.

Scenes with the kids were directed by Mitchum, who apparently got along well with him.

Edit: I'm not much of a horror film fan (which this borders on for me) but it kept my interest throughout with the kids on the run.
 
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Don't know about this new strategy of 3 forwards in ot. Most forwards can't skate backwards very well, that was painful to watch the winning goal last night (all three). Didn't two run into each other the other game?

Desperate times...

What beat me the most was the Canadiens saying they wanted to tire out the Canucks. How the hell are you going to tire them out by standing with the puck in your own zone while they watch you from their own blueline?
 

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Laughton described it as 'a nightmarish tale of Mother Goose'.

Scenes with the kids were directed by Mitchum, who apparently got along well with him.

Edit: I'm not much of a horror film fan (which this borders on for me) but it kept my interest throughout with the kids on the run.

I actually have no issues with his interactions with the kids. I can tell it is acting. I just dislike Mitchum's choice to play the character with a zombie-like movement.

It is not just that too. I dislike the whole presentation of the movie. When Mitchum got shot, the frame rate sped up, with a very bad and loud voiceover track at the back. That annoyed me to no end.
 

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I can kind of see your point. I've always found it an uncomfortable movie to watch, but I took that as a measure of its effectiveness.

Fair enough. That said, I do not think the discomfort bother me all that much, because I recognize that it is what the director wanted to achieve. Rather, I just dislike the whole presentation. To me, the movie is vastly overrated.
 

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The Montreal Canadiens in Overtime (2021) - Disaster of a film. Plot holes galore, non-sensical decisions by characters, including the major ones. Subsequent explanations that don't make sense. Predictable ending. Avoid at all costs. I can't believe I waste my time with this series of awful films. Nine films. All as bad as the one that comes before it.

Okay, you got me. I actually googled it.
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Well done.
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On the bright side, any win by the Canucks will prolong Benning's tenure, and that will only hurt the Canucks long term. In my books, Montreal wins either way.
 
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Chili

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What beat me the most was the Canadiens saying they wanted to tire out the Canucks. How the hell are you going to tire them out by standing with the puck in your own zone while they watch you from their own blueline?
Valid point. Habs are built for the playoffs. Of course, they have to make them first.
 

Chili

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I actually have no issues with his interactions with the kids. I can tell it is acting. I just dislike Mitchum's choice to play the character with a zombie-like movement.

It is not just that too. I dislike the whole presentation of the movie. When Mitchum got shot, the frame rate sped up, with a very bad and loud voiceover track at the back. That annoyed me to no end.
Don't know if many kids watched the film, probably not a lot. There was a message for them to be careful who you trust, I'm sure some find the presentation over the top. The film wasn't popular when it was released so you're far from alone.
 

kihei

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I know, right? We finally liked the same film.

BTW, I just want to say that I like how we've been discussing the most disturbing and scary movies for the last 3 or 4 pages and, in the middle of it, Puck went and threw down a review for Shaun the Sheep. I admire that.
Oh, you're wrong, man, Farmageddon is a very scary movie. Not for the sheepish.
 
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