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I thought the best part was Ozzy, but unfortunately he was in the film for just one scene. I'm fully aware The Dirt was a trash pile of a movie, but it's my kind of trash. At least, that is, until the end of the movie when everything was wrapped up with a nice little bow on top and Motley Crue pushed on to more great things, which definitely never happened.
It did suffer from there just being too much in the book that you just can't put on the screen in a hour and a half, two hour movie. It didn't really convey the hugeness that was Dr. Feelgood or the bottoming out in the grunge era when Jon Corabi took over from Vince Neil for a little bit. I thought it did capture some of their personalities well (or at least how they came across in the passages they wrote in the book). I still remember Vince's last take on Tommy Lee: "Even though he became a huge star, he's still very sensitive to what people think of him. If he's around punks, he loves punk music. If he's around industrial guys, he loves industrial. If Tommy had tits, he'd be a spice girl".

The movie was entertaining if you grew up in the 80's and listened to metal. But the book was way better.
 
Earth Girls Are Easy (1988) by Julien Temple – 7.5/10

This film was pretty cool and low key funny. I'm not a fan of Jim Carrey, but here he hardly speaks at all which works for him. The musical numbers in this film sucks though, but it's almost a positive as they kinda functions as well needed pauses for new oxygen/contemplation. The late 80s Valley girl parody by Geena Davis was pretty neat, with tons of 80s props everywhere.

Apparently the guy who did this film was a music video director, which makes for some MTV references.

I watched this last night. You're right; it's just a fun 80s movie that holds up decently well. It's not very laugh-out-loud funny (though I did crack a laugh at Davis angrily saying to her cheating fiance, "if meaningless sex is what you want, why can't you have it with me?"), but it's steadily amusing and slightly charming. The musical numbers are a misfire, as you said, but help keep the film light.

I'm not a fan of Jim Carrey, either, but I kind of liked him here, too, since he's just a side character, not the star with a spotlight permanently on him. It's always weird to be reminded that Jeff Goldblum was commonly cast as a hunk before Jurassic Park permanently established him as an awkward nerd. I didn't even recognize Michael McKeon as the pool guy until late in the movie.

I'll finally add that the movie poster is a serious misrepresentation (and probably part of the reason that the film was a flop at the box office). No wonder it took me this long to watch the movie. The poster features Geena Davis in a horrible, homely outfit and pose that's like the "before" image for a total makeover when she really looks like the "after" image for the vast majority of the movie. If I had known as a teenager that she'd spend literally half of the movie half dressed and hot, I would've watched it decades ago ;).
 
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I thought the best part was Ozzy, but unfortunately he was in the film for just one scene. I'm fully aware The Dirt was a trash pile of a movie, but it's my kind of trash. At least, that is, until the end of the movie when everything was wrapped up with a nice little bow on top and Motley Crue pushed on to more great things, which definitely never happened.

I didn't really think about it while watching, but I'm realizing now what big liberties the movie took with the timeline near the end. It made it seem like all of the struggles and dramatic events of the final half hour occurred around the time of Dr. Feelgood and its tour, the peak of their stardom, when it all really happened 8 years later, after the band had fallen to near irrelevance (like all 80s glam acts in the 90s). Putting all of the struggle before the peak gives the movie a happy ending, though, as you said. Considering that it's supposed to be a fun biopic, not an ultimately depressing one, maybe that's for the best.
 
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The 2019 Venice Film Festival lineup is out. Kore-eda's 'The Truth' with Ethan Hawke is set for opening night. Interesting to get a glimpse of what to expect later in the year. I see “Guest of Honor, by Atom Egoyan; “The Laundromat,” by Steven Soderbergh; “Ema,” by Pablo Larrain. And I see Roman Polanski is still around, I guess he is not getting shunned. “The Laundromat,” by Steven Soderbergh (Merryl Streep) is sure to be interesting. Also looking forward to “Ad Astra,” by James Gray (Brad Pitt sci-fi).

2019 Venice Film Festival Lineup: ‘Ad Astra,’ ‘Joker,’ and More to Compete for Golden Lion

‘Joker,’ ‘Ad Astra,’ ‘The Laundromat,’ ‘Marriage Story’ to Compete in Venice

Ad Astra and Joker to premiere at Venice film festival
 
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I watched Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing for the second time in my life. I first watched it a few years ago, and enjoyed it. Watching it again however, I now see it as one of the greatest American films ever. Lee is able to evoke such a broad range of emotions. From humour, to joy, to anger and finally to despair. It's just executed so perfectly. The visual language of the film is also top notch, from the warm colours that help convey the feeling of the hottest day of the summer, to some superb, visceral camerawork that gets (sometimes uncomfortably) close to the subjects when it needs to. Aside from the artistry on display here, Spike Lee also touches on many social issues that America (and other parts of the world) still grapple with today. The racial tensions and police brutality against African-Americans are obviously what Do The Right Thing are known for portraying, but I was also struck by one scene in which one of the older, unemployed men on the corner mentions that the ice caps will start to melt in the near future. The other men proceed to laugh at him and call him a fool.

It was great to be able to watch a newly struck 35mm print at the TIFF Lightbox. It was absolutely beautiful.

10. This film is essential, and I think any film fan who hasn't seen this is doing themselves a disservice. Go see it!

That's awesome! I watched it at TIFF Lightbox as well. Not sure which of the two days you attended; Spike did a Q&A post-screening on the Friday night I went which was a bonus.
 
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Once upon a Time...in Hollywood
(2019) Directed by Quentin Tarantino 6B

About Rick (Leonardo DiCaprio), an actor coping with fading fortunes, and Cliff his stunt double (Brad Pitt), Once upon a Time...in Hollywood seeks to recreate the time just before the Charles Manson murders in LA. Rick lives just a bit down the road from the Polanski/Tate residence, and late in the movie this finally becomes of relevance. Before we get to that point, Tarantino provides us a long and winding road of incidents affecting both Rick and Cliff separately. It's a long ramble and I waited patiently for the movie to kick in to a discernible story, but, really, for the longest time it is just a pastiche of scenes related either to Rick or to Cliff, some of them funny (a confrontation between Cliff and Bruce Lee is a hoot), some of them just flat (Rich feeling sorry for himself in front of a precocious 8-year-old girl). Rick really is something of a self-pitying sad sack and DiCaprio never seems to get comfortable in the role. Cliff is another thing entirely. Pitt has a comic field day with the character, one of his best and most likable performances in ages. This movie represents a somewhat more mature, mellowed out Tarantino. Until the end there is only smidgens of violence to deal with, most of it pretty funny. And for maybe the first time ever in a Tarantino movie, there is not a single racial slur uttered by anyone. I liked the movie, which is perhaps a danger signal for Tarantino's hard core fans because Pulp Fiction is the last film of his that I enjoyed. Beyond movie history, Tarantino still doesn't have much to say about anything that matters, but Once upon a Time...in Hollywood was at least fun for the most part, something that has been in criminally short supply in Hollywood movies this year.
 
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Suspiria (remake) - 6/10. I'm pretty sure I would stretch that to a 7/10 if I took the time to think about the film a little. It's structure and themes sure have enough juice to give the film another level, but I went through it a little lazy. I feel there's many doors by which to enter this film, to me the most interesting one being the few references to Jung's psychoanalysis. Of course, one could use the idea of the collective unconscious (which is nicely illustrated by the dance choregraphies), but I think Jung's ideas about guilt would have been, in another time, my point of entry into this film that sometimes feel a bit like a huge mess - not only the nazis references, the shame brought upon the doctor for 'leaving his wife to die', but also the guilt ensuing from the 'damaged world-relationships' the TV continually refer to, and - mostly - the guilt of individuation ('to leave one's mother behind', made obvious with the flashbacks to the sick mother). So a 6/10 that felt like a 7 or even 8 for a more active brain.
 
That's awesome! I watched it at TIFF Lightbox as well. Not sure which of the two days you attended; Spike did a Q&A post-screening on the Friday night I went which was a bonus.
I went the second night which didn’t have Spike in attendance, but they did show a recording of the Q&a after the movie was finished. Pretty insightful, but Spike is really starting to ramble as he gets older, lol. No complaints, I could listen to him talk about film for ages.
 
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Saw a few films at Fantasia so might as well comment on those before I get salty af over the last one:

Sadako - 5/10: So Ringu is probably my favourite film of all time, and ever since watching the original trilogy I've dreaded virtually every movie that came out after, and I've dreaded every Hideo Nakata coming out after Dark Water so... him and Ring being back together was not something I was very much looking forward to. And well... the movie was mostly what I was expecting but it was surprisingly watchable and even had some decent ideas - but a completely ridiculous retcon thrown in as well - so eh passable watch.

Paradise Hills - 7/10
: If only how gorgeous a film is was all that matters, this would be nearing a 10/10. The costumes and sets are spectacular, with a well executed sci-fi twist, and I just lost count at how many times I was staring at the screen with little consideration for messy things like plots and characters. Good thing too, because while those things are... functional, for the most part, nothing there really stands out or is incredibly imaginative. The use of a particular trope also soured me greatly but overall it was a fun experience on what it excelled at. Also that the director is younger than me makes me depressed.

Dance with me - 9.5/10: That might be my favourite musical... ever? It's slightly more meta than that since it's a movie about musicals and how the main character feels about them, and diverges quite a bit from the standard fare in the second half, but it's spectacular. The choreography and scenery in the musical scenes are engaging and unique, the characters and the twist of the main actress being in her universe rather than everyone being in on it leads to some very funny moments. Had a smile throughout the viewing and honestly couldn't think of a thing I would change. Probably overrating it slightly but I had such a fun time, arguably my favourite Fantasia film in years and I really want to see it again as soon as possible.

Once upon a time in... Hollywood - 2.5/10: If Dance with me was an amazing love letter to musicals, this feels like a love letter written by Charles Manson.

I have a really, really, really hard time finding anything positive about this film. It's a weird blend of realism and fantasy that doesn't succeed at either. It's trying so bad to be structurally unconventional it somehow forgot to have a story structure. It looks at an era through the eyes of a total fanboy that tries to replicate the feelings made by that era... fifty years later, which is extremely difficult to begin with because, like, we are not in the 60s anymore - shocking! - but then Tarantino decides to go about it in well pretty much the worse way possible. Shoutout to that utterly moronic Bruce Lee scene... The movie lacks intelligence but certainly splashes you all over with a great deal of self-indulgence.

Ok, if I try... the scenery is great, but unlike Paradise Hills, it doesn't carry anything because it's not a depiction of an idea, it's a replica of Hollywood. Big whoop? Leonardo DiCaprio... Poor him. Poor poor poor him. To try so hard to be relevant in this film yet to be left with absolutely no pay off and no reward. Every time he tries something and pulls it off, the movie snatches it from him. I strongly disagree with kihei in his review, because in my mind DiCaprio had all the best scenes... but they NEVER led to anything, which is stupidly insulting. It's no wonder people are praising Brad Pitt - who is lowkey phoning it in, he's playing Brad Pitt yall - because all the good moments that don't need a purpose or the story structure the writer conveniently forgot all belong to him. Yet his character is borderline terrible, has one real look despite the utterly bizarre backstory they gave him and yet... did nothing with. Sounds like a theme here. Oh speaking of phoning it in, Al Pacino is in this. And I forgot Margot Robbie... what a joke LOL I can't take this seriously somehow Tarantino going hella backwards with his actresses after the Weinstein drama is certainly annoying and yet I'm surprisingly jaded about it.

I could say a lot more about the sexism in this, because dear God does it have a lot, but people always react as if that's the main complaint and an "offended exaggeration" or something, but it's just the cherry on top. To say this film is constructed with anything would be raising the bar too high, to say that it wants to say anything would be a lie, it's a love letter like a five years old writes to Santa Claus but with the mind of a 50 something years old man who has never looked as out of touch as he has here. Oh, and the ending is somewhat of a surprise, but... it's 2019, like really I would need a lot more than the style on display to be impressed by its cinematic relevance. Hell, Tarantino pulled off that thing more than a decade ago, like come on.
 
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Yikes. :laugh:

I'm not going to put myself in what would be for me the extremely rare and not especially comfortable position of defending a Tarantino movie, so just let me say that while I can see most of your points and agree with some of them, they didn't bother me or, in some instances, not much anyway. Why so? Expectations, I guess. Tarantino is a director who works hard at getting people to strongly react to him. With the exception of his first two films, my reaction has been overwhelming negative. Yes, he is gifted; yes, he has a certain flare and style, call it showmanship, that give his films a special kind of razzle-dazzle that is distinctive. But, as I have written before, he is the Peter Pan of movie directors. He refuses to grow up. In his defense, sort of, that refusal might be his best way available to hide the fact that he has absolutely nothing to say about life beyond getting all enthusiastic concerning what he loves about vintage movies. Could he even make a movie that doesn't reference old movies in some ways? It would seem not. His enthusiasms for old movies are a big part of his aesthetic DNA such as it is. But even a Spielberg throws in a Schindler's List or a Munich occasionally. I can't imagine Tarantino tackling similar projects or treating them seriously if he did. So part of what settled me into Once upon a Time...in Hollywood was the absence of things that usually upset me in his movies. For starters, the movie seemed somehow less ambitious and less annoying than his usual stuff. His misrepresentations of history seemed less egregious and less offensive than usual. Though language doesn't usually bother me in movies, I thought the absence of racial slurs in a Tarantino film was a relief of some magnitude; that act became so childish and stale that I hope he has abandoned it entirely. So. for starters, I wasn't cringing in my seat as I so often do for one reason or another in Tarantino movies. Of course, the mere absence of the awful and the indefensible is no reason to give the movie a positive review, but it at least forced me to lower my defenses enough to enjoy the movie.

In retrospect what I enjoyed most about this latest fantasy is how well it caught the mood of the period. One of the articles I read after seeing the film mentioned how accurately Tarentino caught the general malaise of the late-hippy era in southern California. The article quoted Joan Didion who wrote about how the most shocking thing about the Tate murders was that no one was shocked by them--people at the time could sense something like this bizarre tragedy coming, a reflection of the zeitgeist of this particular era that I thought Tarantino managed to capture very well. So much of the movie's ambiance seems deliberately a little shabby and a little shopworn and a little sour as was also reflected by the two main characters who have nowhere to go in their already marginal lives. I liked the director's ability to create that. So I took the movie as a character study of two guys but also of a time and place, and I just enjoyed the hit-and-miss scenes on that level without awaiting a plot that clearly was never going to arrive. Perhaps I may have underrated DiCaprio's performance, but most of the fun that I had focused clearly on Pitt, who I thought had the lion's share of the most entertaining scenes. As well, the violence in this movie, graphic though it is when it arrives, seemed less a central focus than usual. And the absence of violence in a key scene seemed positively witty to me--I felt like for once Tarantino wasn't giving his audience what they wanted. He surprised me with his discretion, let's say. The movie is a ramble that only worked intermittently for me, but, despite its potentially grizzly subject matter, it turned out for once to be an amiable ramble. As for its sexism and racism, some of that is unavoidable in a Tarantino movie though, obviously that is no excuse. But that stuff didn't bother me like it usually does, perhaps because the movie seemed less mean-spirited and callous in this regard than other Tarantino films.
 
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Who Can Kill a Child? (¿Quién puede matar a un niño?) (alternative English/British title Island of the Damned) (1976) by Narciso Ibáñez Serrador – 6/10

I'm not a big fan of horror movies because they're often so silly. Horror to me is in real life things. I like some aspects of some horror films though. I like parts of Rosemary's Baby for instance, enough parts to enjoy the film as a whole, despite that scene somewhere in the middle of it all where Mia Farrow is drugged and then impregnated by someone who appears to have stolen a bizarre late 1960s outfit from an improvisational theatre in Skarpnäck. Ruth Gordon's character is brilliant and the paranoia towards the end too when Rosemary's outside on the sidewalk/in a phone booth.

This is a Spanish film, but the main actors/protagonists are a British couple on vacation on a Spanish island. The pace is pretty slow, the most interesting thing during the first 1/3 of the film (at least it feels like) is someone eating an ice cream, but I didn't have a problem with that. This film is a bit silly too (of course), but it's not big deal. I didn't even care for something supernatural happening (which usually spoils everything).

This film is best in a couple of low key scenes, but I guess you can say that about a lot of films. :dunno:
 
Molly's Game (2018) - f*** Aaron Sorkin! I could could shout that phrase until my absolute last breath, when the lights are getting dim, and it still wouldn't be enough, or come close to express how worthless of a writer I believe he is. He exemplifies everything that I believe a good writer should not be. A mediocre, self-obsessed hack who uses writing to serve himself instead of his craft. A man who, so lacking in substance, disgustingly tries to substitute flash for style, of which he hasn't got any. A writer that has such a low opinion of his audience - and simultaneously high opinion of himself - that he has to turn every single point into a digestible treat for the viewer. Zero originality, zero aesthetical point of view. He's got nothing. His characters are stereotypes through and through, their lack of appeal hidden under zany lines that only a philistine with a bloated sense of self-importance would write. Quite possibly the worst writer with a credible reputation that I've had to indulge. His success makes a mockery of good taste. His existence may be one the only thing on Earth that can make me irrationably angry.
 
Molly's Game (2018) - **** Aaron Sorkin! I could could shout that phrase until my absolute last breath, when the lights are getting dim, and it still wouldn't be enough, or come close to express how worthless of a writer I believe he is. He exemplifies everything that I believe a good writer should not be. A mediocre, self-obsessed hack who uses writing to serve himself instead of his craft. A man who, so lacking in substance, disgustingly tries to substitute flash for style, of which he hasn't got any. A writer that has such a low opinion of his audience - and simultaneously high opinion of himself - that he has to turn every single point into a digestible treat for the viewer. Zero originality, zero aesthetical point of view. He's got nothing. His characters are stereotypes through and through, their lack of appeal hidden under zany lines that only a philistine with a bloated sense of self-importance would write. Quite possibly the worst writer with a credible reputation that I've had to indulge. His success makes a mockery of good taste. His existence may be one the only thing on Earth that can make me irrationably angry.

I'm picking up that you're not a fan of the writer, but did you like the movie? You forgot to leave a rating.

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So, after reading reviews here about Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood....I went down a four hour rabbit-hole online reading wiki, and other articles readily available on Quentin. I've really liked a few of his movies....but have probably only seen half. I have always admired his style (even when I find it dis-tasteful or simply just not my cup of tea).

That being said...I found this little tid-bit I hadn't heard about before. After Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino went to "Constantin Productions with a script for a Silver Surfer film, but was turned away." That was on his wiki page. From several other articles though, throughout the 90s he was also linked to Green Lantern movies as well as Iron Man (remember this is before the who DCU and MCU became a thing.)

I for one am hoping like hell, that if the X-men do become a part of Marvel, he'll be given a chance to work with Wolverine and Deadpool in a team up movie. That would be a truly epic flick and honestly....his direction and artistry is probably suited for pop-corn flick material. It's a lot of flash, razzle, dazzle and quirky dialogue but rarely has much, if any, deep meanings to discuss.
 
The Art of Self Defense
3.00 out of 4stars

A hilarious dark comedy drama/satire. I don't want to ruin anything, but it's full of quotable lines and makes the points it sets out to pretty damn well.
 
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The Farewell
(2019) Directed by Lulu Wang 3A

Billi, a Chinese-American adolescent, learns that her beloved grandmother is dying back in China but the old woman knows nothing of her condition. As seems to occur with many Chinese families, the bad news is kept from granny for her own good. However the whole clan wants to see her one last time so they all take off for Changchun, minus Billi who the family fears is too emotional to be trusted with the big secret. Billi decides to join them anyway. The movie addresses a little-touched upon issue: how different cultures have different ways of expressing their feelings, differences that can be stressful, even hurtful on both sides of the cultural divide. That's all well and good, but not much actually happens. Basically, everybody just finds their way to say goodbye to an old woman whom they love without the old woman figuring out what is going on. The movie might sound like a reasonable family drama on paper, but it's delivery is so laborious and dull and the central character Billi is such a drag that I got bored very quickly in this one. Though The Farewell has gotten great reviews, it is the most overrated movie of the year. Shot by a young director who has a lot to learn about her craft, the film is a collection of dry, tediously directed scenes that resemble home movies more than anything else. If you want to see a masterpiece that deals with family responsibility and aging, pick up Anne Hui's beautiful A Simple Life.
 
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood [2019]:

What a let down, what a bloated mess. I have not been this disappointed in a Quentin Tarantino movie since Kill Bill 2.

What starts off as a fascinating relationship between Cliff and Rick, devolves into pure silliness. What’s also unfortunate are the brilliant moments that may be forgotten because Tarantino didn’t know when to say when…

For every wonderful scene:
  • The party at the Playboy mansion,
  • Sharon Tate watching herself at the movies,
  • Cliff’s flirtation with a young woman and their return to the Manson compound;
There is unnecessary garbage:
  • The fight with Bruce Lee,
  • The movie within a movie,
  • The finale which is the biggest let down of all.
Q.T. has let his reputation go to his head.

I expected so much more...
4/10

Movie Trailer :
 
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The Predator (2018) - 3/10 (Really didn't like it)

Some movies look promising for 10 minutes or more before they start to let you down. This one doesn't even last 10 seconds, since the very first scene is a highly CGI'ed alien ship crash landing, suggesting that what is to come is a CGI spectacle and not a very faithful sequel. Only 10 minutes in, it gets worse when the soldier star who discovers the crash thinks that it's a good idea to mail pieces of the predator's power armor home to his autistic 10-year-old son, who, naturally, activates them and gets the attention of other predators. Father of the Year, this is not. This is all done so that the heroes can spend the rest of the movie racing to suburbia to save him. Writers of the Year, these are not. Along the way, those writers have the heroes spending more time fighting and running from the military than predators, add in the requisite hybrid aliens that make it feel a bit like a Jurassic World movie and even incorporate global warming and a predator-to-English translator. It's almost like the writers know how weak and absurd the material is because they fill the script with more humor than the franchise is known for. Some of it is funny, but it's kind of sad when the thing that keeps an action movie barely watchable is the humor, not the action. Even with the humor, though, not one of the characters is someone that you care about and the movie, overall, is just boring. It's better than AvP: Requiem, but that's not saying much. My favorite part was the end credits, not just because the movie was over, but because hearing the theme music from the 1987 movie was the closest thing to nostalgia that I felt in an hour and 47 minutes.
 
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I suppose this could go in the dedicated thread, but we make our own histories, ya know?

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Fairly fresh out of the theater and still doing a lot of processing. Avoiding other writing on it until I at least tap out a few thoughts here. First reaction is that this is just the latest in a string of underwhelming (for him) movies. I hold Tarantino to a high standard though I now think the overall balance of his resume has tilted from great to pretty good and his latter work is the big reason for that. Probably the most important filmmaker to me personally. Came along when I was in high school and was my first introduction to what movies could be. The older he gets and the older I get, we seem to diverge. Is it him? Is it me? That’s a little background.

So, my big take away is that for a man who has been so heralded for his creativity, he’s gotten to be quite predictable. I won’t recap. I’ll just leave it at that for now. But the overwhelming disappointment of that is what still is lingering.

I like it, overall. It’s entertaining for stretches. There’s a truly great Leo performance here. Brad Pitt is on point. I appreciate his affinity not so much for the pop culture references here, but for the actors (predominately TV folks) who are used (Olyphant, McNairy, Perry, Clifton Collins, etc.). He’s an unrivaled caster. The music, as always, is dope.

But his once impressive tricks with storytelling and whatnot now feel rote from him. It’s part of the reason I hold Jackie Brown in such high regard is because his quirks hadn’t yet become a crutch as they subsequently have. I enjoy his tics to a degree, but as I get older they wear a little thin. I just always hope for more.

Oh and hey, you know what no one ever gets nostalgic about? Hollywood. Good on that guy for being clever. Sheesh.

Probably take further thoughts over to the other thread.
 
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

* First reaction is that this is just the latest in a string of underwhelming (for him) movies.
* I hold Tarantino to a high standard though I now think the overall balance of his resume has tilted from great to pretty good and his latter work is the big reason for that.
* The older he gets and the older I get, we seem to diverge. Is it him? Is it me?
* he’s gotten to be quite predictable.
* It’s entertaining for stretches.
* Brad Pitt is on point.
* But his once impressive tricks with storytelling and whatnot now feel rote from him.
* It’s part of the reason I hold Jackie Brown in such high regard is because his quirks hadn’t yet become a crutch as they subsequently have.
* I enjoy his tics to a degree, but as I get older they wear a little thin. I just always hope for more.
I pointed (*) what I agree with. The rest, I disagree.
 
So my brief defense of Leo is that, though there are a few exceptions, he's an actor that often does the same sorta shit. He loves to play the hero but with generic shades of grey or edginess, but nothing complex or interesting enough to actually be compelling. He's fine but generic. He's good at it but there's a rare role of his where I don't think other actors couldn't reasonably approximate what he does.

One of my favorite parlor games is positing that there isn't a Leo performance that Matt Damon couldn't do close or better. Conversely can you imagine Leo in The Informant or Dogma or even The Martian? Leo has always been talented but he's more limited than fanboys want to ever concede.

The thing about Hollywood that appealed to me is Leo's mostly pathetic. Sad, needy, drunk, flailing and funny. This isn't his typical lane. Maybe I am overrating him here but he rarely seems to either 1) have a sense of humor or 2) have any sense of humor about himself. He's OH SO SERIOUS more often than not. (Wolf, Catch Me, to a lesser extent Django excluded). But even in those cases it's rare that he's the character that isn't in command or THINKS he's in command. That's why Rick is an interesting and effective departure for me. He's a poser who knows he's a poser. He is the dumbest, most oblivious character in the movie and he knows it. DiCaprio has rarely played such a type. As corny as the precocious kid lecture is, there is a rare winking laugh there (at least for me) in that Leo has been, to some degree, that exact type of actor.

Oscar worthy? Wouldn't go that far. But better in ways he's rarely been willing to pursue.

Triumph of concept and casting or one of performance? I credit both.

Though Matt Damon could have done this too. :)
 

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