Last good Blackhawks’ roster

GIADF

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Josi, Forsberg, Stamkos, Marchessault, and Saros is a really solid foundation.

I’m not saying they should be bonafide Cup contenders, but certainly a playoff contender.

To be dead last in the league on the verge of December makes no sense.
 
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ClydeLee

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There's also no way Nashville should be in last place in the entire NHL. Their problems are absolutely coaching.
Last no, but that should not be an playoff team.

They added two 34 year old offensive weapons and people got excited... why? Forsverg is 30, everyone else is older by 3 or more years that matters as a skater. That's a recipe for disaster and its d depth is awful after 34 year old Josi.

You can have individual numbers, but just driving to win battles and get pucks takes a toll. 3 34 year olds is not a solid foundation in any realm.
 

Pez68

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Okay it's dropped in these 2 games. It was 24th before and not bottom 10 before the Kings game, which was one as bad as this Philly game. So it has been dropping lately
Again, they are bottom 5 in every offensive AND defensive category. Their goaltending, however, has been outstanding. It's a mirage. This team has zero structure and their systems, whatever they are, are total shit.
 
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ClydeLee

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Again, they are bottom 5 in every offensive AND defensive category. Their goaltending, however, has been outstanding. It's a mirage. This team has zero structure and their systems, whatever they are, are total shit.
I know its bad, but i see far better structure than the Tindori affair on ice or Korchinski bleeding chances against all day when he should of been in the WHL. I'd be curious to see isolated the last 4 games from the first 17. Because just werks ago it was higher, And that had some major flops like the Kings game.

That was the worst since this game i would say they played. You don't deem to think there's a difference of today vs the Panthers game and there was a huge difference from a 23% expect to win and a 47%. And that's what they had.
 

Pez68

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I know its bad, but i see far better structure than the Tindori affair on ice or Korchinski bleeding chances against all day when he should of been in the WHL. I'd be curious to see isolated the last 4 games from the first 17. Because just werks ago it was higher, And that had some major flops like the Kings game.

That was the worst since this game i would say they played. You don't deem to think there's a difference of today vs the Panthers game and there was a huge difference from a 23% expect to win and a 47%. And that's what they had.
I see no difference. Brodie and Martinez are just as bad as Korchinski and Tinordi were. At least Korchinski could make a f***ing break out pass, which is more than I can say for those two.

The forward coverage in the defensive zone is absolute garbage. Their positioning is a huge reason the Hawks can't get out of their zone. They are late getting to the wall because they're not where they SHOULD be. It's a clown car.
 

Hattrick Kane

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I see no difference. Brodie and Martinez are just as bad as Korchinski and Tinordi were. At least Korchinski could make a f***ing break out pass, which is more than I can say for those two.

The forward coverage in the defensive zone is absolute garbage. Their positioning is a huge reason the Hawks can't get out of their zone. They are late getting to the wall because they're not where they SHOULD be. It's a clown car.
It’s systemic. But we all know that. They added nhl players yet everyone has gotten worse except for the goalies. I just don’t understand how you see these failures but decide to keep bashing your head against the wall.
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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I see no difference. Brodie and Martinez are just as bad as Korchinski and Tinordi were. At least Korchinski could make a f***ing break out pass, which is more than I can say for those two.

The forward coverage in the defensive zone is absolute garbage. Their positioning is a huge reason the Hawks can't get out of their zone. They are late getting to the wall because they're not where they SHOULD be. It's a clown car.
Brodie sucks but he's much better than Tinordi. Martinez mostly sucks but he's much better than Megna. The team not playing well and the talent on the roster are two different things.
 
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MarotteMarauder

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They are bottom 5 in HDCA, XGA, SA, and SCA... This team is f***ing terrible defensively. I have no idea what you're watching. The goaltenders are the only reason they aren't giving up 4-5 a game.

They are also bottom 5 in every offensive category.
Other than in net, I don't think Hawks are good in any portion of the ice.

Definitely not good in front of their net, not good in the D corners or along boards.

No quick regroups in the neutral zone.

Offensive zone is mostly played outside the dots, no forecheck, actually no offensive scheme/instincts at all really.
 

MarotteMarauder

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I see no difference. Brodie and Martinez are just as bad as Korchinski and Tinordi were. At least Korchinski could make a f***ing break out pass, which is more than I can say for those two.
Now you hit a nerve! LOL

The most important pass IS THE FIRST ONE.
Why can't anyone effing do it!?!?!!?
Who is working with the D?
Why isn't Brian Campbell on this staff or in Rockford working on this? Best 1st passer Hawks ever had IMO, all silky smooth and catchable.
 
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DisgruntledHawkFan

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Now you hit a nerve! LOL

The most important pass IS THE FIRST ONE.
Why can't anyone effing do it!?!?!!?
Who is working with the D?
Why isn't Brian Campbell on this staff or in Rockford working on this? Best 1st passer Hawks ever had IMO, all silky smooth and catchable.
Kaiser can do it. He just can't if he's floundering in his own zone for ninety seconds as a rookie because the team is a f***ing mess. We've got decent young defenseman in spite of coaching not because of it.
 

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