Prospect Info: Lassi Thomson, Defence, 19th Overall

[Burrowsaurus]

Why are we discussing Zib or couts being better. Ridiculous this is Lassi Thomson thread.

Kid is gonna be good. We got the guy we needed. RHD are a premium if you have not noticed. You will be surprised by this pick.

This thread will not age well. Not surprising. Want to make money. Read HF do the exact opposite the hive mind does. Per 100 bets, you will come out way ahead.

yeah

 

[MatchesMalone]

yeah

Hahaha holy shit this killed me.

After playing just 17:04 against TPS on Wednesday, Lassi Thomson led Ilves in ice time with 22:15 on Friday. The bad news is Ilves is now 0-4.

But he's first in the team in shots with 19 in four games, and second on the team among defenseman in corsi.

 

[BonkTastic]

Lassi Thompson named Captain of the Finland WJC team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Lassi Thompson named Captain of the Finland WJC team.

Studying the playbook.

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Who's a good boy?

 

[Sweatred]

The morning show referenced a PD conversation where Lassi is 100% committed to playing in North America next season. They also suggested he could come over at the end of his season this year.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

The morning show referenced a PD conversation where Lassi is 100% committed to playing in North America next season. They also suggested he could come over at the end of his season this year.

Lovely, you'd think it's part of the plan. Brannstrom is PPG down there through 10 games; he gonna be a full timer next year and they're gonna need to ease him in and Lassi takes his spot in the AHL especially since we looking at another solid bingo rookie team next year.

 

[Dingle]

This teams's eggs are in his basket, and B-Docker's. There is zero option for failure. It takes a D man a good 2 years in the pros to be productive. He better sparkle next season.

If the team has to wait on him and Bernard-Docker anything more than a few months, I have no idea of what they will do.. If they offer contracts to fill ins, they will be handcuffed for 3-4 years. If they rely on the marginal players, then the team will have a 5-6 heavy defense core with Chabot and Zaitsev carrying the load.

 

[Big Muddy]

This teams's eggs are in his basket, and B-Docker's. There is zero option for failure. It takes a D man a good 2 years in the pros to be productive. He better sparkle next season.

If the team has to wait on him and Bernard-Docker anything more than a few months, I have no idea of what they will do.. If they offer contracts to fill ins, they will be handcuffed for 3-4 years. If they rely on the marginal players, then the team will have a 5-6 heavy defense core with Chabot and Zaitsev carrying the load.

You are consistent. Sky is falling. LOL.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

This teams's eggs are in his basket, and B-Docker's. There is zero option for failure. It takes a D man a good 2 years in the pros to be productive. He better sparkle next season.

If the team has to wait on him and Bernard-Docker anything more than a few months, I have no idea of what they will do.. If they offer contracts to fill ins, they will be handcuffed for 3-4 years. If they rely on the marginal players, then the team will have a 5-6 heavy defense core with Chabot and Zaitsev carrying the load.

did you know we get a free set of draft picks every single year..

our eggs are in no ones basket. I mean we can sign d men, we can draft other d man, we can trade for other d men. its very fluid

 

[Dingle]

did you know we get a free set of draft picks every single year..

our eggs are in no ones basket. I mean we can sign d men, we can draft other d man, we can trade for other d men. its very fluid

I am glad it is that easy. Can you explain the last few years?

We have Thomas Chabot to thank for ~ 8-9 years of drafts. Zaitsev and Hainsey were dumps by TO for Ceci... Hainsey will be gone. 3 D men are signed. Reily is destined to be a 6-7. You have 2 other top 4 D to fill. You can sign; This team paying top dollar for free agents..Okay? is the ocean full of top 4 D that will come here for low term and low dollar? We need to call Montreal, and see how Karl Alsner is doing? Trades, yes...Reily is the future. We can trade a few picks for Subban.

This year's draft has one Dman in the top 10...Drysdale. 8 other teams will want him. You better hope he lands in your lap, or you can use a #1, or #2 on him. I am sure he would love it.

The Thompson, B-Docker lifeline had better be awfully secure. Even they, are another year away. If you get lucky and draft a good D. He may be 3-4 years away. All the while Chabot takes a beating. Zaitsev's contract gets spent and the D core remains a mess.

This team better hope that next year's D core has: Chabot, Zaitsev, Thompson or Docker (ideally both), Brainstromm; bulked up and a tank to withstand collisions, and your #6 is open. they will endure a difficult year and be productive in 2021-22. Even this scenario has more questions than answers.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I am glad it is that easy. Can you explain the last few years?

We have Thomas Chabot to thank for ~ 8-9 years of drafts. Zaitsev and Hainsey were dumps by TO for Ceci... Hainsey will be gone. 3 D men are signed. Reily is destined to be a 6-7. You have 2 other top 4 D to fill. You can sign; This team paying top dollar for free agents..Okay? is the ocean full of top 4 D that will come here for low term and low dollar? We need to call Montreal, and see how Karl Alsner is doing? Trades, yes...Reily is the future. We can trade a few picks for Subban.

This year's draft has one Dman in the top 10...Drysdale. 8 other teams will want him. You better hope he lands in your lap, or you can use a #1, or #2 on him. I am sure he would love it.

The Thompson, B-Docker lifeline had better be awfully secure. Even they, are another year away. If you get lucky and draft a good D. He may be 3-4 years away. All the while Chabot takes a beating. Zaitsev's contract gets spent and the D core remains a mess.

This team better hope that next year's D core has: Chabot, Zaitsev, Thompson or Docker (ideally both), Brainstromm; bulked up and a tank to withstand collisions, and your #6 is open. they will endure a difficult year and be productive in 2021-22. Even this scenario has more questions than answers.

this wont be the case. next year will probably be another rough year . Thompson and Docker probably both in the AHL. maybe guenette in the AHL as well with lajoie and jaros graduating full time. you seem to be in a rush and im not sure where that is coming from.

 

[Micklebot]

this wont be the case. next year will probably be another rough year . Thompson and Docker probably both in the AHL. maybe guenette in the AHL as well with lajoie and jaros graduating full time. you seem to be in a rush and im not sure where that is coming from.

Don't forget about Wolainin. JBD and Thomson are AHL bound for sure.

 

[Dingle]

this wont be the case. next year will probably be another rough year . Thompson and Docker probably both in the AHL. maybe guenette in the AHL as well with lajoie and jaros graduating full time. you seem to be in a rush and im not sure where that is coming from.

I spent yesterday evening seeing about two dozen stern post, aimed at everybody. Chastising anyone who suggested a longer development/rebuild period.

it was amazing to watch, no one was safe. the boys (and possibly girls) were out in full force.

Argue that the rebuild is slow and has risks and bam..you get it.
Argue the rebuild is quick..and Bam you get it

I have read a few hundred posts and man...what a site.

the simply reality is: this is an inconvenient truth. We are in deep doodoo. We will dig out. After some time. We cannot take too much time, in the era of large second contracts, we cannot stash players away. We are in a small market/budget, not cap..it limits options. We need our own to come through. In timely fashion (read: quickly). And there cannot be too many misses. the days of the Ceci's and Cowens and Lazars are over. We spent our freebies.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I spent yesterday evening seeing about two dozen stern post, aimed at everybody. Chastising anyone who suggested a longer development/rebuild period.

it was amazing to watch, no one was safe. the boys (and possibly girls) were out in full force.

Argue that the rebuild is slow and has risks and bam..you get it.
Argue the rebuild is quick..and Bam you get it

I have read a few hundred posts and man...what a site.

the simply reality is: this is an inconvenient truth. We are in deep doodoo. We will dig out. After some time. We cannot take too much time, in the era of large second contracts, we cannot stash players away. We are in a small market/budget, not cap..it limits options. We need our own to come through. In timely fashion (read: quickly). And there cannot be too many misses. the days of the Ceci's and Cowens and Lazars are over. We spent our freebies.

I simply disagree on how fast we need to do this. we have one piece of our core signed right now past his ELC and thast Chabot. we have him for 8 years AFTER this one. our window is really until 27/28 season CURRENTLY. the players we draft in the upcoming draft are cornerstones. their ELCs are over in 3 years after this one. that extends our window to 30/31.

our best players are not 28. theyre 21 and 18 years old.

 

[Dingle]

I simply disagree on how fast we need to do this. we have one piece of our core signed right now past his ELC and thast Chabot. we have him for 8 years AFTER this one. our window is really until 27/28 season CURRENTLY. the players we draft in the upcoming draft are cornerstones. their ELCs are over in 3 years after this one. that extends our window to 30/31.

our best players are not 28. theyre 21 and 18 years old.

Yes, but we have only 3 signed. Reiley ends next year. We have to field 7, 6 play 1 sits. That means that 4 contracts must be issued, thus locking you in for 3,4,5 up to 7 years. Now what, suddenly open spots on defense disappear. Now what do you do with Thompson, Docker?

so either bring Thompson up, BD up, Brainstramm up or you have to wait 3 to 4 years.

The Sens have to choose one of these two. The free years were this year and last..now it is decision time.

 

[GCK]

Yes, but we have only 3 signed. Reiley ends next year. We have to field 7, 6 play 1 sits. That means that 4 contracts must be issued, thus locking you in for 3,4,5 up to 7 years. Now what, suddenly open spots on defense disappear. Now what do you do with Thompson, Docker?

so either bring Thompson up, BD up, Brainstramm up or you have to wait 3 to 4 years.

The Sens have to choose one of these two. The free years were this year and last..now it is decision time.

Next year Brannstrom, Chabot, Zaitsev and Wolanin are locks. Jaros is likely, Lajoie has a shot and perhaps a Demelo or Boro is resigned. The year after next will probably cycle in JBD and/or Thomson.

 

[Dingle]

Next year Brannstrom, Chabot, Zaitsev and Wolanin are locks. Jaros is likely, Lajoie has a shot and perhaps a Demelo or Boro is resigned. The year after next will probably cycle in JBD and/or Thomson.

It shifts the argument, but does not change it. Lassi Thompson, and JBD are key cogs that had better hit..near zero luxury of missing.

 

[GCK]

It shifts the argument, but does not change it. Lassi Thompson, and JBD are key cogs that had better hit..near zero luxury of missing.

If they miss then you use one of the other procurement methods. Trade, FA. Heck maybe Alsing turns into a player.

 

[Dingle]

If they miss then you use one of the other procurement methods. Trade, FA. Heck maybe Alsing turns into a player.

The team got itself in this mess because what you wrote. When you have a good roster that only needs 1-3 top 13 players all told, you draft 3 to 4 prime players in any one year. Your two year total is 6-8. You hope that the 1-3 come out of that. So, splitting the middle, you are at 2 players needed, 7 available.. on the off chance that more than 5 miss, you have one spot to fill, so you trade, free agency and you fill the gap.

these 2 miss? when you need 2 defensemen and your entire pool is 3 thus far (those 2 and Brannstram), possibly one in this years draft, possibly one in next..so 5 guys, have to produce 2 spots.. and two miss....bringing you to 2 out of 3.....

Free agency here? .there isn't over a million posts on this subject matter and money issues, etc. And a top 4 D in free agency..what do you think, low dollar, low term?..You did read my post above about Karl Alsner and PK Subban.

we are in a position where we must rely almost solely on our own resources. Almost exclusively on our drafts and young prospects. Sine time zero was 2015, it means 5 years of drafts at roughly 1 prospect a year...6 in all, plus zytsev. Move forward 2 years, an additional one D per..makes the total 9 d.

7 of 9 have to be here.

 

[Micklebot]

The team got itself in this mess because what you wrote. When you have a good roster that only needs 1-3 top 13 players all told, you draft 3 to 4 prime players in any one year. Your two year total is 6-8. You hope that the 1-3 come out of that. So, splitting the middle, you are at 2 players needed, 7 available.. on the off chance that more than 5 miss, you have one spot to fill, so you trade, free agency and you fill the gap.

these 2 miss? when you need 2 defensemen and your entire pool is 3 thus far (those 2 and Brannstram), possibly one in this years draft, possibly one in next..so 5 guys, have to produce 2 spots.. and two miss....bringing you to 2 out of 3.....

Free agency here? .there isn't over a million posts on this subject matter and money issues, etc. And a top 4 D in free agency..what do you think, low dollar, low term?..You did read my post above about Karl Alsner and PK Subban.

we are in a position where we must rely almost solely on our own resources. Almost exclusively on our drafts and young prospects. Sine time zero was 2015, it means 5 years of drafts at roughly 1 prospect a year...6 in all, plus zytsev. Move forward 2 years, an additional one D per..makes the total 9 d.

7 of 9 have to be here.

GCK already mentioned it, but;

Chabot is locked up for 8 years, and is a clear #1 D
Zaitsev is locket up for another 4 years, and is a top 4 D.
Brannstrom is a controlled asset for 6 more years before UFA, and is already a boderline top 4 D with potential to be more
Wolanin under contract another year, and controlled for another 2 seasons after that before UFA, and was a borderline top 4 last season for us.
Jaros and Lajoie are controlled assets that look like potential bottom 4 guys controlled for 4 and 5 years respectively.

If JBD and Thomspon hit, we potentially have a very good group of D where we need to look at moving guys out. If they don't, we have an area that could use improvement but isn't deep doodoo as you describe it. We picked up a filler in Hainsey this year, similar options will be available in the future too. Heck, last expension draft created a bit of a flood as teams looked to get their ducks in a row only being able to protect 3 or 4 top 4 D.

 

[Sweatred]

The team got itself in this mess because what you wrote. When you have a good roster that only needs 1-3 top 13 players all told, you draft 3 to 4 prime players in any one year. Your two year total is 6-8. You hope that the 1-3 come out of that. So, splitting the middle, you are at 2 players needed, 7 available.. on the off chance that more than 5 miss, you have one spot to fill, so you trade, free agency and you fill the gap.

these 2 miss? when you need 2 defensemen and your entire pool is 3 thus far (those 2 and Brannstram), possibly one in this years draft, possibly one in next..so 5 guys, have to produce 2 spots.. and two miss....bringing you to 2 out of 3.....

Free agency here? .there isn't over a million posts on this subject matter and money issues, etc. And a top 4 D in free agency..what do you think, low dollar, low term?..You did read my post above about Karl Alsner and PK Subban.

we are in a position where we must rely almost solely on our own resources. Almost exclusively on our drafts and young prospects. Sine time zero was 2015, it means 5 years of drafts at roughly 1 prospect a year...6 in all, plus zytsev. Move forward 2 years, an additional one D per..makes the total 9 d.

7 of 9 have to be here.

We are positioned to move partially developed prospects on ELC’s to teams that can’t afford or don’t want to pay their RFA’s or need to move a contract for wiggle room.

We can target players “like” Kapanen at $3.2 around the league and offer a prospects like Pinto/Formenton or even Norris/Brown for better players. Fans won’t want to trade prospects but we need to acquire legit NHL players at some point.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yes, but we have only 3 signed. Reiley ends next year. We have to field 7, 6 play 1 sits. That means that 4 contracts must be issued, thus locking you in for 3,4,5 up to 7 years. Now what, suddenly open spots on defense disappear. Now what do you do with Thompson, Docker?

so either bring Thompson up, BD up, Brainstramm up or you have to wait 3 to 4 years.

The Sens have to choose one of these two. The free years were this year and last..now it is decision time.

why cant we just do what we did this year with Hainsey?

No it is absolutely not decision time on brannstrom, JBD and Thompson... The people we would be extending, lajoie and Jaros, are not commanding 4-5-6-7 year contracts. theyre getting little bridge deals.

They graduate. Thompson and docker are down.

 

[Dingle]

why cant we just do what we did this year with Hainsey?

No it is absolutely not decision time on brannstrom, JBD and Thompson... The people we would be extending, lajoie and Jaros, are not commanding 4-5-6-7 year contracts. theyre getting little bridge deals.

They graduate. Thompson and docker are down.

the team has 39 points. at 45 games played. That is a 71 point season. We do not know the strength of schedule at the back end. Nor do we know if a potential player dump hurts their point production going forward. At 71 points, we are 7 more than last years catastrophe and thanks to Detroit, we may be spared the indignity of another last place finish.

Its offense is benign, its defense is benign. Why then, do we need to keep many of these players. Those 25 and younger, okay. Those above???? So, why reach for another Hainsey? why reach for other middling players? The old adage is: Only a fool does the same things over and over and expects the same results. Lajoi, Jaros, Demelo..are guys in their prime and should otherwise be contributing to better success than what we are experiencing...so if they are not good enough, why keep them? There is nothing redeeming about the defense core at this moment. Nothing that make you go..OKAY, WE GOT Something here.

If you have in the AHL Brannstrom, JBD and Thompson next year. And you have 3-4 guys on 2 year bridge..You will almost have to keep the three down there for all 2 years.

In 1997-98, the sens made the second round of the playoffs..Wade Redden 20, Chris Philips 19. S. Neckar 21. The Sens where much more aggressive with those kids. Neckar's career would flounder, but he was given a real opportunity. In fact he played season 1 as an 18 year old. In fact all 3 played at 18. The 96-97 Neckar and Redden on it. Philips was not yet here.

 

[playasRus]

I am glad it is that easy. Can you explain the last few years?

We have Thomas Chabot to thank for ~ 8-9 years of drafts. Zaitsev and Hainsey were dumps by TO for Ceci... Hainsey will be gone. 3 D men are signed. Reily is destined to be a 6-7. You have 2 other top 4 D to fill. You can sign; This team paying top dollar for free agents..Okay? is the ocean full of top 4 D that will come here for low term and low dollar? We need to call Montreal, and see how Karl Alsner is doing? Trades, yes...Reily is the future. We can trade a few picks for Subban.

This year's draft has one Dman in the top 10...Drysdale. 8 other teams will want him. You better hope he lands in your lap, or you can use a #1, or #2 on him. I am sure he would love it.

The Thompson, B-Docker lifeline had better be awfully secure. Even they, are another year away. If you get lucky and draft a good D. He may be 3-4 years away. All the while Chabot takes a beating. Zaitsev's contract gets spent and the D core remains a mess.

This team better hope that next year's D core has: Chabot, Zaitsev, Thompson or Docker (ideally both), Brainstromm; bulked up and a tank to withstand collisions, and your #6 is open. they will endure a difficult year and be productive in 2021-22. Even this scenario has more questions than answers.

That's a little misleading that the draft is failing us to find defensemen though.

In the last 10 years, every dman we've drafted has had some impact for us with the exception of Kelly Summers, Jordan Fransoo and Mikael Wilstrand. And those are the three 7th rounders with one that was excelling to be a possibly top 4 D that has off ice issues.

The brief list of picks includes Chabot, Lajoie, Jaros, Harpur, Ceci, Wolanin, Englund, Claesson.

Then there's the handful from the last 2 drafts, which we can probably expect only 3/4 to have a real shot (the fourth is another 7th rounder).

Basically all have played for one for stretches or are now breaking into the league. We haven't been drafting enough dmen which is likely why we haven't 'as much to thank for'. That and we traded away what we did have for the rebuild.