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Lane Hutson vs The Field

Will a rookie defenseman do better than 66 points in 82 games, in the next 10 years?

  • Yes

    Votes: 87 71.3%
  • No

    Votes: 35 28.7%

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Probably not. I don’t think it’s unreachable, but it takes a special talent as well as a situation where the rookie can play big minutes and run the PP, as well as that player staying healthy and playing close to 82 games. Makar probably would have in a full season as a rookie, and Hughes might have, though obviously both are pretty rare offensive talents from the blue line. But there seems to be a greater emphasis on these types of defensemen these days and coaches seem more willing to give them the green light, which makes it much more likely than it has been at any time in the past 30 years. So while it’s impressive, I think saying “it hasn’t been done in 35 years” doesn’t accurately reflect how difficult it is today.
 
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Probably not. I don’t think it’s unreachable, but it takes a special talent as well as a situation where the rookie can play big minutes and run the PP, as well as that player staying healthy and playing close to 82 games. Makar probably would have in a full season as a rookie, and Hughes might have, though obviously both are pretty rare offensive talents from the blue line. But there seems to be a greater emphasis on these types of defensemen these days and coaches seem more willing to give them the green light, which makes it much more likely than it has been at any time in the past 30 years
Basically came here to say this as it takes a perfect storm of age, opportunity and PP TOI ect....

Larry Murphy had that opportunity back in the 80s and one doesn't have to be the best Dman to fit a category like this really.

But Landon Dupont could be that guy if he goes NCAA and comes into the NHL a full year after his draft year.
 
Larry Murphy had that opportunity back in the 80s and one doesn't have to be the best Dman to fit a category like this really.
Well yes, but Murphy is 5th in defenseman points all time while solid defensively. It’s not like he was merely a 1980s Määttä either.
 
Well yes, but Murphy is 5th in defenseman points all time while solid defensively. It’s not like he was merely a 1980s Määttä either.
Murphy was just an offensive guy out there and then lucked out getting traded to the Pens and later had the fortune of being on a couple of excellent Detroit SC teams.

Don't get me wrong he was a very good Dman who stayed healthy for a long time but he gets over rated and was fortunate with his post 30 resume.

I watched him play quite a bit back in the day.

 
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I think it’s possible we see a defenseman hit those kinds of numbers in their third year post-draft, like Lane Hutson, but I’d say it’s unlikely to happen in their actual rookie season.

If we’re talking about truly generational defensemen, they’re probably cracking the NHL in their first or second year post-draft, and in those cases, it’s a big ask to hit 66 points right out of the gate. The transition is just so steep, especially for D-men. So while it’s not impossible, I wouldn’t bet on it.
 
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His top contenders I would say as it stands are Landon DuPont, Schaeffer, Buium, and Parekh.

DuPont doesn’t need much introduction. Anyone who follows him know what a special talent he already is.

Schaeffer likely would not have play this season, getting another year of development time, and would also likely have to avoid getting snagged by the Islanders who don’t exactly provide a high scoring offensive environment. If the Islanders select Misa/Hagens, and he goes to San Jose who lets him develop for a year, he has a good shot.

Buium is walking into a pretty cushy spot. If he grabs top pair/top powerplay minutes roughly from the start, and gets heavy offensive usage with Boldy/Kaprizov, watch out. Similar college production to Hutson.

Parekh would likely have to not make the Flame’s next year, which is already unlikely. The Flames would also have to load up on some offensive help at forward so he has the player to play with to facilitate the numbers. From a pure offensive standpoint though, he definitely has the talent, and should get extremely tilted offensive usage/powerplay time to maximize his skill set. If he somehow got sent back to the OHL this season, he likely strolls to having the most all time points by a defenseman in OHL history, needing only 89 more.
 
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Unless the league goes back to a more dead puck era I would have to take odds very good it happens again
 
Something just happened for the first time in 35 years.

HFboards: "Easy, should happen constantly from now on!"

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I think it has more to do with multiple dmen putting up near PPG numbers over recent years. The game is changing with more teams focusing on activating dmen. It really wouldn't surprise me if some rookie dman puts up PPG numbers in the next ten years.

Are you suggesting that Hutson's record will last for 35 years? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
I think it’s possible we see a defenseman hit those kinds of numbers in their third year post-draft, like Lane Hutson, but I’d say it’s unlikely to happen in their actual rookie season.

If we’re talking about truly generational defensemen, they’re probably cracking the NHL in their first or second year post-draft, and in those cases, it’s a big ask to hit 66 points right out of the gate. The transition is just so steep, especially for D-men. So while it’s not impossible, I wouldn’t bet on it.

It definitely feels like the college guys have the leg-up as they’re more likely to enter the league a bit later
 
Hutson is a special talent that was allowed to roam as 4th forward and do whatever. Now obviously that allowance was due to his talent, no slight on his talent; what’s interesting is to see how can he be effective on a championship winning team, he’s young, let’s just wait and let it play out, I’m one of the many that has been hard on him due to his defensive liabilities but I’m also down to see where he can grow and improve, wish him the best and he absolutely has the capability to be great, but let’s see. His massive issues are his size; I don’t think playoff hockey suits him; Montreal needs big guy who can cover for him and let him be who he is.
 
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I think it has more to do with multiple dmen putting up near PPG numbers over recent years. The game is changing with more teams focusing on activating dmen. It really wouldn't surprise me if some rookie dman puts up PPG numbers in the next ten years.

Are you suggesting that Hutson's record will last for 35 years? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I'm not suggesting anything, but it's hilarious how a record that held for 35 years is being treated like an everyday accomplishment on HFboards if the player broke it wearing a Canadiens sweater.

Lots of people here would rather say he was possessed by Bobby Orr's spirit than admit Hutson is good.
 
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