Player Discussion Lane Hutson: Part 3 - Calder Edition

[Sorinth]

Some old hockey writers (voters) will cling to old school ideas of how a defenseman should look and play.
The same thinking that landed him at 62 will creep into the voting.

It’s going to Mack if he can stay healthy.

Although I'm sure there are some like that I suspect they are in the extreme minority. Those arguments started to die after Karlsson started winning his Norris'.

So it's possible in a razor thin win that those old fashioned people would swing it, but if Hutson is setting NHL records for D production and Celebrini is not also doing something historic it's not going to be razor thin. When one side is saying nobody's done this since Lidstrom and the other is saying nobody's done this Barzal it just doesn't hit the same.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

his point pace has slowed significantly

He had a 5 game drought, no worst than around xmas where he had a 4 game drought, then went on a second tear.

Celebrini is -21 to Hutson's -15

Although I'm sure there are some like that I suspect they are in the extreme minority. Those arguments started to die after Karlsson started winning his Norris'.

So it's possible in a razor thin win that those old fashioned people would swing it, but if Hutson is setting NHL records for D production and Celebrini is not also doing something historic it's not going to be razor thin. When one side is saying nobody's done this since Lidstrom and the other is saying nobody's done this Barzal it just doesn't hit the same.

Exactly.

And it's sports journalists voting, not Vegas. If they see any kind of significant milestone or record by one player, they'll easily fall into that narrative.

 

[zzoo]

Strictly based on yesterday game, Celebrini is better than Hutson.

 

[badfish]

Strictly based on yesterday game, Celebrini is better than Hutson.

Celebrini is a beauty of a player. He was better than Hutson last night for sure. But Celebrini is also on a hot streak right now (a quarter of his points this season have come in the last 10 games). Was last nights version of Celebrini better than the Hutson that was leading come back wins during the month he was hot? I don't think so.

 

[Rapala]

Strictly based on yesterday game, Celebrini is better than Hutson.

Celebrini was leading the league in puck battles won per game if he maintains that it's very hard to ignore.

 

[badfish]

Celebrini was leading the league in puck battles won per game if he maintains that it's very hard to ignore.

Lane Hutson was leading the league in slot passes/60 if I remember correctly. Also tough to ignore.

Shaping up for a good finish down the end.

FWIW my prediction a few weeks ago was Celebrini would win it, especially because its an award voted on by the PHWA and it seems like there's a lot more PHWA exposure in the US than Canada. There's been very few Calder wins by defensemen or Canadian-based players in the last 30 years.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Lane Hutson was leading the league in slot passes/60 if I remember correctly. Also tough to ignore.

Shaping up for a good finish down the end.

FWIW my prediction a few weeks ago was Celebrini would win it, especially because its an award voted on by the PHWA and it seems like there's a lot more PHWA exposure in the US than Canada. There's been very few Calder wins by defensemen or Canadian-based players in the last 30 years.

Celebrini is a stud having a studly season. Let’s not act like hutson would be jobbed by biased voters if he didn’t win.

The chances of this happening are much less than they were 2 weeks ago but if Hutson outscores him i think it’s his trophy

Anyway, tough to rack up points when the pp is dying on laines or slafs stick. Second unit looked way better last night

 

[Guy Larose]

Lane Hutson was leading the league in slot passes/60 if I remember correctly. Also tough to ignore.

Shaping up for a good finish down the end.

FWIW my prediction a few weeks ago was Celebrini would win it, especially because its an award voted on by the PHWA and it seems like there's a lot more PHWA exposure in the US than Canada. There's been very few Calder wins by defensemen or Canadian-based players in the last 30 years.

Hutson is American the last time I checked.

 

[badfish]

Hutson is American the last time I checked.

I didn't say otherwise.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

A breakdown of series of Hutson's plays and extrapolation of his unique talents.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not sure why that’s laughable,

Because he's had one of the most dominant seasons by a rookie in recent memory. Because he's been just as good as Celebrini this year if not better.

he’s been getting caved in defensively and his point pace has slowed significantly

For four games... come on. No rookie is going to consistently score every night over 82 games.

He’s 3rd behind Celebrini and Wolf right now

Highly debatable.

and I think it would take a pretty big turnaround to get back in the lead

Why? He's the leading rookie scorer. Wolf probably won't even hit 50 games and Celebrini has had slumps of his own. There's tons of hockey left and it's a dead heat right now.

Also how can he “easily take it” if it was “never going to be easy” lol

Do I really have to explain this?

"Easily take it" doesn't mean it will be done 'easily'. It means the voting could go either way. This shouldn't need to be spoonfed.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Because he's had one of the most dominant seasons by a rookie in recent memory. Because he's been just as good as Celebrini this year if not better.

For four games... come on. No rookie is going to consistently score every night over 82 games.

Highly debatable.

Why? He's the leading rookie scorer. Wolf probably won't even hit 50 games and Celebrini has had slumps of his own. There's tons of hockey left and it's a dead heat right now.

Do I really have to explain this?

"Easily take it" doesn't mean it will be done 'easily'. It means the voting could go either way. This shouldn't need to be spoonfed.

You are being blinded by homerism unfortunately

I hope he wins it but he has his work cut out for him right now

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You are being blinded by homerism unfortunately

Nonsense. Hutson leads all rookies in scroing as a blueliner. There's absolutely no reason to think he's out of this race.

I hope he wins it but he has his work cut out for him right now

It's a dead heat. It's been a dead heat for most of the year and it'll most likely be a dead heat at the end. The idea that he's 'out of it' is ridiculous.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You are being blinded by homerism unfortunately

I hope he wins it but he has his work cut out for him right now

And you've been hanging around the main board too much and think exercising extreme caution will meet the mouthbreathers' standards.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Celebrini is a beauty of a player. He was better than Hutson last night for sure. But Celebrini is also on a hot streak right now (a quarter of his points this season have come in the last 10 games). Was last nights version of Celebrini better than the Hutson that was leading come back wins during the month he was hot? I don't think so.

A quarter of Celebrini's games have also come in the last 10 games essentially lol, or 23.26% of them anyway.

 

[Scriptor]

I hope Hutson ends up with 58 points or something and doesn't win the Calder. It will make negotiations for a more reasonable 2nd contract that much easier.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I hope Hutson ends up with 58 points or something and doesn't win the Calder. It will make negotiations for a more reasonable 2nd contract that much easier.

I’ve never understood this mentality. If a guy scores 50 goals… great! Pay him.

Hutson’s getting paid whether he wins the Calder or not. We might as well cheer him on.