Player Discussion Lane Hutson: Part 3 - Calder Edition

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Very well said.
How does Wolf rank vs other goalies this year?

Top 5 to top 15, depending on the category. That's in the season. I don't know how he fares among rookie Gs, but iirc he's not close to any records or milestones.

I just don't buy the "carry to the playoffs" arguments as Habs would also be far from the playoffs without Hutson. They've both been tremendous in helping their teams to stay in the playoff race. The big difference is Hutson is having a historic rookie D season.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Assuming Hutson finishes close to 70 points, I think he SHOULD win. Will he? I’m not so sure.

There continues to be nonsense spread out there about him being bad defensively. Like it or not the narrative is that small guys can’t defend. His (undeserved) reputation is that he’s a one way player.

Bedard won last year with a -44

Hutson is +1 at 5v5.

NHL should seriously consider removing empty net situations from ES stats.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Bedard won last year with a -44

Hutson is +1 at 5v5.

NHL should seriously consider removing empty net situations from ES stats.

+/- is a waste of time altogether.

 

[Skip Bayless]

He's not my pick for the Calder. He's too small.

 

[Frank Drebin]

His biggest competitor at this point is Wolf. If Calgary make the playoffs he’ll get a lot of votes.

Looking at both of their seasons from 30 years out, what on earth makes Wolfs season comparable to what Hutson is doing?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Looking at both of their seasons from 30 years out, what on earth makes Wolfs season comparable to what Hutson is doing?

Hutson would be my choice. Especially if he leads all rookie scorers. Hitting 70 would be another biggie.

With goalies it’s a little different. You’ve seen first hand what happened to Carey Price’s numbers when they gutted the team and he was the best goalie in the league.

If Wolf drags a bad club to the postseason it deserves consideration. He’s having an amazing year.

But yeah, Hutson would be my choice (assuming his season continues as it has.) and I don’t say that because he’s a Hab.

For the record, I thought it was totally wrong when Theodore won the MVP over Iginla.

 

[Redux91]

He's not my pick for the Calder. He's too small.

Michkov and Macklin are sub 6'? lol

It's still not too laaaaaaaaaaateeeeeee buuuud

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

You dont want Bedard on your team, you think you do but you don't.

No, I definitely do. I don't care that he hasn't had success dragging the worst defensive corps and a rotating cast of octogenerians and AHLers around.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

No, I definitely do. I don't care that he hasn't had success dragging the worst defensive corps and a rotating cast of octogenerians and AHLers around.

Yeah... I'll take Bedard.

He's been set up to fail over there. Chicago has to make some offseason moves to get this guy some help.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[Frank Drebin]

i dont understand above post
the same amount of money betting that Jackson Blake wins the calder as Macklin Celebrini?

 

[WeThreeKings]

i dont understand above post
the same amount of money betting that Jackson Blake wins the calder as Macklin Celebrini?

Yeah, basically how much money has been staked on each calder candidate to win.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah, basically how much money has been staked on each calder candidate to win.

I guess favorable odds would cause more money to flow in.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I guess favorable odds would cause more money to flow in.

Exactly.. Wolf has a realistic shot to win and his odds were probably a better pay out than Hutson/Michkov/Celebrini so a lot of money went down on him.

 

[DAChampion]

Exactly.. Wolf has a realistic shot to win and his odds were probably a better pay out than Hutson/Michkov/Celebrini so a lot of money went down on him.

Are you suggesting that there's gambling in these establishments?

 

[cphabs]

Calder or not. The kid is absolutely crushing it with class and the humility to learn. Fantastic!

 

[Habs Halifax]

Hutson (ranks among Defenseman)
* 0.79 Pts/game (9th)
* 22:20 TOI/game (46th)
* 23 PP Points (4th)
* 2:42 PP TOI/game (22nd)
* 3.50 Giveaways/60 (144th)
* 1.75 Takeaways/60 (6th)

* 54.7 Corsi with 71.2% Offensive zone starts

 

[dauv]

Looking at both of their seasons from 30 years out, what on earth makes Wolfs season comparable to what Hutson is doing?

they're both in their rookie season in the NHL

 

[Ezpz]

Looking at both of their seasons from 30 years out, what on earth makes Wolfs season comparable to what Hutson is doing?

Calgary bad.

But really there's a massive effort to try and pretend Hutson isn't having the best rookie dman season of the century. He's closer to Crosby/Ovi than Dustin Wolf.

 

[Gravity]

This kid will win a Norris trophy.

 

[Frank Drebin]

there both in their rookie season in the NHL

What I meant to say is:

Someone 30 years from now, someone who has never seen either player live, is looking at the calder nominees from this year.

Assuming Hutson keeps the pace he has been for the past 55 games, he finishes with 65 points. Good for 6th best rookie dman season ever. Second all time leader for Rookie Dman assists. Leads all rookies in scoring as a defenseman.

Then we have Dustin Wolf, who played 50 games and is 7th place in SV% for starters and every other stat (GP, W, GAA and SO he's outside of the top 10.

How would one explain Wolf winning this year? At least Steve Mason had 10 shutouts. Andrew Raycroft was top 5 in SV% and GAA in a very weak Calder year.

 

[dauv]

What I meant to say is:

Someone 30 years from now, someone who has never seen either player live, is looking at the calder nominees from this year.

Assuming Hutson keeps the pace he has been for the past 55 games, he finishes with 65 points. Good for 6th best rookie dman season ever. Second all time leader for Rookie Dman assists. Leads all rookies in scoring as a defenseman.

Then we have Dustin Wolf, who played 50 games and is 7th place in SV% for starters and every other stat (GP, W, GAA and SO he's outside of the top 10.

How would one explain Wolf winning this year? At least Steve Mason had 10 shutouts. Andrew Raycroft was top 5 in SV% and GAA in a very weak Calder year.

I know what you meant, I was just being a smart ass lol

 

[Frank Drebin]

I know what you meant, I was just being a smart ass lol

After dealing with main board morons for 6 months I’m shell shocked lol

 

[Frank Drebin]

Since nov 27
46gp
5g
37a

9g/75 point pace

As a rookie
On a rebuilding team
Playing with a mishmash of partners, often on his off side

 

[Sorinth]

Hutson is now 14th all time in rookie D scoring, tying Quinn Hughes but doing it in 1 less game.