New York Islanders: Lamoriello Contract Not Renewed; John Collins Searching for Next GM

[seafoam]

Quick @periferal look!

Chris Lamoriello is currently the highest ranking member of the Islanders Hockey Ops.

 

[seafoam]

But the more we’re learning the more it seems he’s behind these decisions and has strong influence with Malkin

He's the only member of ownership who is an operating partner. The rest of the guys have no clue about hockey quite frankly and aren't qualified to conduct a search like this.

 

[PK Cronin]

Quick @periferal look!

Chris Lamoriello is currently the highest ranking member of the Islanders Hockey Ops.

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From the highest of highs yesterday to the lowest of lows today. Let the man have his moment!

 

[doublechili]

Darche, Gorton or Futa

Those are the only guys i'd want for the job.

Is Gorton even available? He's got a nice job with the Habs - isn't he the top guy above the GM Hughes?

 

[seafoam]

Is Gorton even available? He's got a nice job with the Habs - isn't he the top guy above the GM Hughes?

He is and it's been speculated Geoff Molson is not letting his guys go.

 

[seafoam]

From the highest of highs yesterday to the lowest of lows today. Let the man have his moment!

Back on the wagon today brother.

 

[Rehabguy]

Lou built a team that would play a lock-down style game.

Roy wanted to play an up-tempo, creative style game.

Lou-Roy butted heads on play style.

In all honesty, I kinda take Lou's side here. Why the f*** would you want to play an up-tempo style game with this roster of players? I think everyone here could've told you that that would be jamming a square peg in a round hole.

As a coach, it is your job to get the most out of the players you have. Why would you purposely put them in a bad position to perform? Was it in an effort to get the guy who built that roster fired? That's some petty shit. Or was it a coup to get his job?

Based on this, I do not want Roy moving forward.

Jeez man. Think about what you are saying. Why would Lou hire Patrick Roy to teach a style of hockey the opposite of what he is known for and preached for decades? It's plain stupidity on Lou's part not Roy. Next time I open a pizza restaurant I know what I'll do- I'll hire the guy who makes the best hamburgers in town.

This is where that, "this is the roster Lou gave me" came from. Lou knows the style of hockey Roy preaches but he doesn't change the roster to match Roy's style. That's not Roy's fault. That's the guy who got fired fault. And Patrick Roy early on called Lou out on this even when he willed that sorely lacking roster into the playoffs over a period of weeks.

IMO Roy should be considered a viable option for GM.

 

[MikeyMike01]

He's the only member of ownership who is an operating partner. The rest of the guys have no clue about hockey quite frankly and aren't qualified to conduct a search like this.

Is there some reason for optimism? Is he qualified? Because I have zero confidence in the outlook.

 

[doublechili]

Quick @periferal look!

Chris Lamoriello is currently the highest ranking member of the Islanders Hockey Ops.

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Incoming 8 year extension for Hudson Fasching.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Jeez man. Think about what you are saying. Why would Lou hire Patrick Roy to teach a style of hockey the opposite of what he is known for and preached for decades? It's plain stupidity on Lou's part not Roy. Next time I open a pizza restaurant I know what I'll do- I'll hire the guy who makes the best hamburgers in town.

Lou did the hiring, he built the team. Roy interviewed and would have had to agree to Lou's philosophy with Lou's roster. You think of all people - Lou Lamoriello - would hire someone without discussing his preferred style of play and whether or not the candidate would be willing to play that style?

So either Roy lied to get the job or went rogue. Either way is not good.

 

[Rehabguy]

Lou did the hiring, he built the team. Roy interviewed and would have had to agree to Lou's philosophy with Lou's roster. You think of all people - Lou Lamoriello - would hire someone without discussing his preferred style of play and whether or not the candidate would be willing to play that style?

So either Roy lied to get the job or went rogue. Either way is not good.

Or Lou had a senile lapse of judgment and had no clue what he was doing. Lou took an up tempo roster and then dismantled it to become a defensive minded grinding team only to turn it around again in 3 short years to an up tempo team again without the horses to play that style of game. Like I said he was all over the place.

 

[12Dog]

With Lou gone what are the chances we hear any info on who they’re interviewing?

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Or Lou had a senile lapse of judgment and had no clue what he was doing. Lou took an up tempo roster and then dismantled it to become a defensive minded grinding team only to turn it around again in 3 short years to an up tempo team again without the horses to play that style of game. Like I said he was all over the place.

What? How did he "dismantle" the high tempo roster? By firing Doug Weight or by letting Tavares walk?

And how did he try to turn them into an up-tempo team again? By simply hiring Roy?

Like Lou, you're all over the place.

 

[MJF]

Jeez man. Think about what you are saying. Why would Lou hire Patrick Roy to teach a style of hockey the opposite of what he is known for and preached for decades? It's plain stupidity on Lou's part not Roy. Next time I open a pizza restaurant I know what I'll do- I'll hire the guy who makes the best hamburgers in town.

This is where that, "this is the roster Lou gave me" came from. Lou knows the style of hockey Roy preaches but he doesn't change the roster to match Roy's style. That's not Roy's fault. That's the guy who got fired fault. And Patrick Roy early on called Lou out on this even when he willed that sorely lacking roster into the playoffs over a period of weeks.

IMO Roy should be considered a viable option for GM.

Which is another reason I wasn’t enthusiastic about the Roy hiring. He was the wrong coach for this roster. And after a year and a half of watching some of his bizarre in-game decisions, well, I wouldn’t mind if the Islanders fire Roy too.

 

[MJF]

Lou did the hiring, he built the team. Roy interviewed and would have had to agree to Lou's philosophy with Lou's roster. You think of all people - Lou Lamoriello - would hire someone without discussing his preferred style of play and whether or not the candidate would be willing to play that style?

So either Roy lied to get the job or went rogue. Either way is not good.

It’s not like Lou did any due diligence on hiring Lane Lambert either. Lazy hiring on Lou’s part.

 

[MJF]

Counterpoint: Lou likely hired Roy to bring a more up-tempo style to this team. That was the whole reason he fired Trotz.

Lou asked Lamber to do that and it backfired. After that he should have realized it’s the players who weren’t capable. Instead he went for that again, this time with Roy. Strike 3.

 

[Chardo]

Is Gorton even available? He's got a nice job with the Habs - isn't he the top guy above the GM Hughes?

He is currently in charge of the most storied franchise in the league, in the middle of overseeing a promising rebuild. Why would he give that up?

 

[Lame Lambert]

Lou asked Lamber to do that and it backfired. After that he should have realized it’s the players who weren’t capable. Instead he went for that again, this time with Roy. Strike 3.

Bingo.

 

[leeroggy]

Pierre McGuire for GM or I'm out

Hobart '83!
I'm all in for that since I can get the interview!

 

[BMOK33]

He is currently in charge of the most storied franchise in the league, in the middle of overseeing a promising rebuild. Why would he give that up?

You'd be surprised. Maybe he does not want to live in Canada or some other reason, but we've seen guys shockingly bail before out of seemingly great jobs to go somewhere else.

 

[Rehabguy]

What? How did he "dismantle" the high tempo roster? By firing Doug Weight or by letting Tavares walk?

And how did he try to turn them into an up-tempo team again? By simply hiring Roy?

Like Lou, you're all over the place.

You trade away Leddy, Beauvillier, Eberle, and Toews and replace them with Pageau, Palmieri, Fasching, Wahlstrom, Zajac, Chara (Chara?), and a long term contract to Mayfield. Yeah- you are going to be slow.

 

[Rehabguy]

Which is another reason I wasn’t enthusiastic about the Roy hiring. He was the wrong coach for this roster. And after a year and a half of watching some of his bizarre in-game decisions, well, I wouldn’t mind if the Islanders fire Roy too.

Wrong coach for this roster or wrong roster for this coach- both but that's Lou's fault. Now the problem is out of the way let Roy build a team suitable for his up tempo game plan.

 

[TeamKidd]

I think i'd like to see an assistant GM plucked from a successful organization like FLA or DAL as my first preference, they seem to know wtf they are doing. You gotta be more nimble in this league, you cant keep guys because of 'loyalty'....the LOYALTY should be to the fans, not the players.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

You trade away Leddy, Beauvillier, Eberle, and Toews and replace them with Pageau, Palmieri, Fasching, Wahlstrom, Zajac, Chara (Chara?), and a long term contract to Mayfield. Yeah- you are going to be slow.

Beau was traded for more offense in Horvat.

Ebere was not traded, he was selected in the SEA expansion draft.

Leddy was moved to make space to sign Palmieri, for offense, to avoid paying him long term and to open up some space for our young D-men.

Toews, I will agree with you, that was a mistake.

Zajac played 28 total games for the Isles - 14 regular season and 14 playoffs. Why include him?

Wahlstrom was seen as a young goal scoring upgrade. Why include him?

Chara was signed for one year as veteran depth on September 18th, he was never a needle mover.

Mayfield, I also agree that his long term deal was scary at the time, but Lou liked him as the stay at home PKer and thought to keep his AAV down while they were in the compete window.

 

[Rehabguy]

Beau was traded for more offense in Horvat.

Ebere was not traded, he was selected in the SEA expansion draft.

Leddy was moved to make space to sign Palmieri, for offense, to avoid paying him long term and to open up some space for our young D-men.

Toews, I will agree with you, that was a mistake.

Zajac played 28 total games for the Isles - 14 regular season and 14 playoffs. Why include him?

Wahlstrom was seen as a young goal scoring upgrade. Why include him?

Chara was signed for one year as veteran depth on September 18th, he was never a needle mover.

Mayfield, I also agree that his long term deal was scary at the time, but Lou liked him as the stay at home PKer and thought to keep his AAV down while they were in the compete window.

Result of all these decisions was a slower team.