Speculation: LAK GM Search

[BigKing]

Holland is 69.

Dallas is still in the playoffs - Kings could wait until they are done and poach our future GM still.

Nice.

I don’t love or hate the move if Holland is the new GM. It’s a better choice than any of the internal candidates. And I’m hoping he is more proactive than Blake ever was.

I think he’ll be in front of the media a lot more, which isn’t hard to do with Blake’s thrice a season availability’s. And maybe he’ll get tougher questions because he’s not a home team hero.

I do love how Hoven's thumbnail pic for the article stating that Holland would be named GM was a black and white pic of Holland and Luc that just looks sad and ominous. Am I reading too much into it? Don't think so: someone is bummed that Yank and the current level of access might be over.

Holland is not someone to get excited about, except that it isn't the same old Kings in the sense that the 2000 Kings roster is running the entire franchise. Now, Holland hasn't been great in the present but he was really good back in 2000 so at least we have a 2000s-era Red Wing running the show. If all the key positions are going to be based on the NHL from 1998-2003, better to have Red Wings than Kings.

 

[BaileyFan]

The wildest part to me, referring to your ‘haters are always going to hate’ comment…..is that if I identify as a Kings fan, I’m allowed to talk all the shit I want on this page about the org. Hell, I can tell the president, GM and the coach to all suck my ****, all good - nothing seems to be sacred around here. However, if it was an Oilers fan that came over here and said the SAME EXACT thing, that would be considered ‘trolling’, right?

I think we call that a double standard.

Hey, maybe you should post another comment mocking cancer survivors instead.

 

[King'sPawn]

The wildest part to me, referring to your ‘haters are always going to hate’ comment…..is that if I identify as a Kings fan, I’m allowed to talk all the shit I want on this page about the org. Hell, I can tell the president, GM and the coach to all suck my ****, all good - nothing seems to be sacred around here. However, if it was an Oilers fan that came over here and said the SAME EXACT thing, that would be considered ‘trolling’, right?

I think we call that a double standard.

It's not a double standard when the intent is different.

Someone from another team can hop in and say "Blake sucks, haha" and stir posters into getting more pissed off, then retreating back to their own team's forum.

It's like the old culture of gay people calling each other f**. They can say it because it's part of their own dialect and culture. But if a straight person says it to a group of strangers, then it's an act of dehumanization.

The main boards are considered neutral ground. Do it to fans who are in their "safe space", and it's an act of aggression.

It's not a double standard. It's the social contract on these boards, because the general purpose of other fans hopping in to say "this part about the team sucks" is not to have a healthy conversation. But because they want free reign to be an asshole.

 

[Lt Dan]

Haters are always gonna hate...

I always thought you were Taylor Swift! This confirms it

 

[FSL KINGS]

GKG!

 

[DAkings20]

Stole this from the main board, but Holland will fit in perfectly!

More fun... Inside the first round, Ken Holland's draft picks over the last ten years have been:

2014 - Dylan Larkin (15)
2015 - Evgeny Svechnikov (19)
2016 - Dennis Cholowski (20)
2017 - Michael Rasmussen (9)
2018 - Filip Zadina (6)
2018 - Joe Veleno (30)
2019 - Philip Broberg (8)
2020 - Dylan Holloway (14)
2021 - Xavier Bourgault (22)
2022 - Reid Schaefer (32)

Subtract Dylan Larkin and Holland's first round picks over a ten year period (9 picks) have a combined 520 points, for a 58 point career average.

 

[King'sPawn]

Stole this from the main board, but Holland will fit in perfectly!

More fun... Inside the first round, Ken Holland's draft picks over the last ten years have been:

2014 - Dylan Larkin (15)
2015 - Evgeny Svechnikov (19)
2016 - Dennis Cholowski (20)
2017 - Michael Rasmussen (9)
2018 - Filip Zadina (6)
2018 - Joe Veleno (30)
2019 - Philip Broberg (8)
2020 - Dylan Holloway (14)
2021 - Xavier Bourgault (22)
2022 - Reid Schaefer (32)

Subtract Dylan Larkin and Holland's first round picks over a ten year period (9 picks) have a combined 520 points, for a 58 point career average.

The person who did that was called out for being dishonest with data manipulation.

1. Removing the top pick to point out inefficiency of drafting is simply dishonest.

2. The 2022 and 2021 picks are late first round picks and are just over 20 years old, and haven't played an NHL game yet.

3. Dylan Holliway had a breakout season after leaving Edmonton. So was he a bad pick or just producing.

4. Two of those picks are defensemen, not nevessarily a position you count on for scoring.

There were some bad picks for certain, but this approach and evaluation is very lazy and dishonest.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Sometimes I read what people say and its blah blah this and blah blah that C'mon

 

[DoktorJeep]

The middle of the roster is where you can move the needle. If Ken can flush Moore and Mikey for cap space plus futures and trade Gavrikov and Kuzmenko for some quick picks, the summer will be off to a solid start. Then shitcan Hiller for Laviolette would be another pro move. Getting rid of the elevated scrubs is step one in establishing a true meritocracy.

 

[The Butcher]

All this talk about Holland being 69, idk I'm not totally convinced it matters.

The last two presidents of the Untited States were/are both pushing 80.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

All this talk about Holland being 69, idk I'm not totally convinced it matters.

The last two presidents of the Untited States were/are both pushing 80.

Oh, that's encouraging. Maybe Holland can make the Kings great again...on day 1, that is.

 

[bmr]

This is the response I get when I asked ChatGPT who the kings should hire as their new GM assuming anyone is fair game:

Best All-Around Pick: Eric Tulsky (Carolina Hurricanes - AGM)
Why: Analytics-savvy, strong talent evaluation, and a key architect behind Carolina’s consistent competitiveness on a limited budget. He blends modern analytics with hockey intuition — ideal for a team in transition.

Upside: Could modernize the Kings’ roster-building approach and unlock more value from existing assets.

Visionary Builder: Kyle Dubas (Pittsburgh Penguins - President)
Why: A forward-thinking executive with a deep understanding of data, player development, and cap strategy. Despite the polarizing Toronto tenure, Dubas is widely respected in league circles for trying to evolve traditional GM thinking.

Challenge: Might not be realistic to pry him from Pittsburgh, but in a “you can hire anyone” scenario, he’s a top-tier option.

Proven Winner: Julien BriseBois (Tampa Bay Lightning - GM)
Why: Architect of a modern dynasty, master of the salary cap, aggressive when needed but deeply strategic.

Ideal For: A “win-now” Kings team — if ownership wants to go all-in on contention in the Kopitar-Doughty twilight.

Culture & Identity Guy: Mike Futa (Former Kings AGM, Scouting Guru)
Why: Knows the Kings system intimately, helped build their Cup-winning core, and has elite scouting instincts. If you want continuity and strong culture, Futa is compelling.

Caveat: Hasn’t been a GM yet, so there’s risk — but perhaps the safest “Kings DNA” pick.

Wild Card / Bold Move: Meghan Duggan (Devils’ Director of Player Development) or Hayley Wickenheiser (Maple Leafs VP)
Why: Innovative leadership, modern player development mindsets, and bring a fresh, long-term vision. They’d break the mold and shake up hockey’s old boys' network — potentially a savvy long play.

Risk: Less traditional path, but the NHL is moving fast toward inclusive and modern front offices.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Oh, that's encouraging. Maybe Holland can make the Kings great again...on day 1, that is.

Well not sure I'd use the president's as an example. The last one had no idea what when where he was at, the other, crazy at it is, seems to have an endless amount of energy, I hope Holland has some of that, but more importantly I hope he still has the passion for the game and will not look at the job as his severance paying job

 

[AbsentMojo]

.. he was really good back in 2000 so at least we have a 2000s-era Red Wing running the show. If all the key positions are going to be based on the NHL from 1998-2003, better to have Red Wings than Kings.

That to me is the most ominous thing. The Red Wings were the epitome of slow boil and where Koala and Dim Hiller got their stripes... slow boil works great when you have no cap and can stockpile talent. My guess is the heritage of this started w Holland. We're getting the patron saint of the outdated slow boil methodology.

 

[johnjm22]

This is the response I get when I asked ChatGPT who the kings should hire as their new GM assuming anyone is fair game:

Best All-Around Pick: Eric Tulsky (Carolina Hurricanes - AGM)
Why: Analytics-savvy, strong talent evaluation, and a key architect behind Carolina’s consistent competitiveness on a limited budget. He blends modern analytics with hockey intuition — ideal for a team in transition.

Upside: Could modernize the Kings’ roster-building approach and unlock more value from existing assets.

Visionary Builder: Kyle Dubas (Pittsburgh Penguins - President)
Why: A forward-thinking executive with a deep understanding of data, player development, and cap strategy. Despite the polarizing Toronto tenure, Dubas is widely respected in league circles for trying to evolve traditional GM thinking.

Challenge: Might not be realistic to pry him from Pittsburgh, but in a “you can hire anyone” scenario, he’s a top-tier option.

Proven Winner: Julien BriseBois (Tampa Bay Lightning - GM)
Why: Architect of a modern dynasty, master of the salary cap, aggressive when needed but deeply strategic.

Ideal For: A “win-now” Kings team — if ownership wants to go all-in on contention in the Kopitar-Doughty twilight.

Culture & Identity Guy: Mike Futa (Former Kings AGM, Scouting Guru)
Why: Knows the Kings system intimately, helped build their Cup-winning core, and has elite scouting instincts. If you want continuity and strong culture, Futa is compelling.

Caveat: Hasn’t been a GM yet, so there’s risk — but perhaps the safest “Kings DNA” pick.

Wild Card / Bold Move: Meghan Duggan (Devils’ Director of Player Development) or Hayley Wickenheiser (Maple Leafs VP)
Why: Innovative leadership, modern player development mindsets, and bring a fresh, long-term vision. They’d break the mold and shake up hockey’s old boys' network — potentially a savvy long play.

Risk: Less traditional path, but the NHL is moving fast toward inclusive and modern front offices.

Maybe we should just hire an AI to be our GM.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Stole this from the main board, but Holland will fit in perfectly!

More fun... Inside the first round, Ken Holland's draft picks over the last ten years have been:

2014 - Dylan Larkin (15)
2015 - Evgeny Svechnikov (19)
2016 - Dennis Cholowski (20)
2017 - Michael Rasmussen (9)
2018 - Filip Zadina (6)
2018 - Joe Veleno (30)
2019 - Philip Broberg (8)
2020 - Dylan Holloway (14)
2021 - Xavier Bourgault (22)
2022 - Reid Schaefer (32)

Subtract Dylan Larkin and Holland's first round picks over a ten year period (9 picks) have a combined 520 points, for a 58 point career average.

Why are you ignoring Broberg/Holloway as those were good picks?! Blues gave an offer sheet to both guys, with the Oilers not matching either one. Blues probably would not have made the playoffs if they had neither of those 2 guys.

 

[SherVaughn30]

The middle of the roster is where you can move the needle. If Ken can flush Moore and Mikey for cap space plus futures and trade Gavrikov and Kuzmenko for some quick picks, the summer will be off to a solid start. Then shitcan Hiller for Laviolette would be another pro move. Getting rid of the elevated scrubs is step one in establishing a true meritocracy.

Uh, big h3ll no to Laviolette! Lately he barely last 3 seasons, and he's worse than Hiller in regard to not trusting younger players unless injuries force him to. As a Caps fan, he ruined the Caps and then he ruined the Rangers. Lavi can't deliver like he use to. I think his time is done.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Why are you ignoring Broberg/Holloway as those were good picks?! Blues gave an offer sheet to both guys, with the Oilers not matching either one. Blues probably would not have made the playoffs if they had neither of those 2 guys.

Agreed, I've mentioned Broberg several times, when was the last time the Kings drafted a mobile d like that on left, Hell we can't even play our two must moblie defensemen on the right side

One of my biggest Hope's is he brings an attitude adjustment on development and how he sees players being used and I hope he learned his lessoned and never ever gives another Nurse contract out (Gavrikov).

I think will also be interesting to see if he brings in his son as assistant Gm or potential role after he is gone, which might be good as he would be leas likely to screw the Kings long term or goi g out the door

 

[SherVaughn30]

Just throwing my opinion in, with Holland he has a past rep for ignoring drafting goalies(better hope Portillo is the immediate answer and close to backing up Kuemper for next season) and I think he was responsible for giving Darnell Nurse that awful contract, as the Oilers GM! If Holland shifts the Kings into emphasis on more offense/goal scoring, and fires Hiller, then I'm behind him with a short leash for now.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Agreed, I've mentioned Broberg several times, when was the last time the Kings drafted a mobile d like that on left, Hell we can't even play our two must moblie defensemen on the right side

One of my biggest Hope's is he brings an attitude adjustment on development and how he sees players being used and I hope he learned his lessoned and never ever gives another Nurse contract out (Gavrikov).

I think will also be interesting to see if he brings in his son as assistant Gm or potential role after he is gone, which might be good as he would be leas likely to screw the Kings long term or goi g out the door

Does Holland's son have GM potential?

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Does Holland's son have GM potential?

If I am not mistaken, he was one of the assistant Gms in Edmonton before parting wsys

 

[DoktorJeep]

Brad Holland or Keith Gretzky. Which nepo hire would be easier to swallow?

 

[Johnny Utah]

Holland gave Evander Kane a second chance also after the whole Sharks mess and signed Perry.

 

[chris kontos]

Maybe we should just hire an AI to be our GM.

Thass what i said !

 

[DoktorJeep]

Holland gave Evander Kane a second chance also after the whole Sharks mess and signed Perry.

This could be a quote from Luc at the next press conference.