Speculation: LAK GM Search

[johnjm22]

From your mouth to his ears, Tio. But nepotism fuels the front office Luc is going with one of his friends or his old GM, Ken

and look what I seen on X right after I posted this

Please god no.

 

[Lt Dan]

Please god no.

For the record, I totally agree, but....
Two things I have learned over the years.
1-Don't doubt Friedman.
2- Nepotism is this front office's strongest trait.

 

[FSL KINGS]

I want to know how many women have been interviewed for the vacant GM position. Did we just skip over that because it's clearly a job for a man? Disappointed with Luc over skating the puck here.

 

[Bandit]

Please god no.

Does it even matter if Luc is still here? Which coincidentally, Holland was the GM in Detroit when Luc was there.

 

[Lt Dan]

Does it even matter if Luc is still here? Which coincidentally, Holland was the GM in Detroit when Luc was there.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[CarlSneep]

 

[Lt Dan]

I am not familiar with this guy.
Is this guy just regurgitating what Friedman said this morning or is he an actual source?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

presumably that would put us all in for 11 and 8s swan song

so you're letting the architect of the nurse contract swing whatever is left of our assets--greentree, clarke, 1st, next couple of drafts of picks--for an all-in kick at the can. What could possibly go wrong

At least it will go down in flames quickly.

 

[johnjm22]

You don't bring in Ken Holland for a rebuild.

 

[Herby]

How fitting that the team who attempted to play dead-puck era hockey for the better part of the last four seasons (and failed miserably when it mattered) is now bringing in a guy who won three Stanley Cups in the dead-puck era. Luc definitely loved the late 90's, and hey the Matrix did say 1999 was the peak of human civilization, no dispute from Luc.

The one positive is that it's somebody from the outside with no connection to Murray, Emerson or Yannetti. The most important thing with this organization is getting into the 2020's with how they evaluate and develop young players. Holland is a pretty big and established name (three cups are still three cups), it seems that he would want to bring in his own AGM, player development team and a bunch of new scouts.

Another positive is that Holland will be more of a vocal and transparent GM than we saw from Blake, who spoke about as in-depth as Hodor.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Holland has had minimal success without unlimited funds/no cap AND a Euro scouting dept that fueled that machine. Even when gifted two of the three best players in the world. Hard for me to get excited simply because it’s “not Bergy.” Add in that he was Luc’s GM back in DET and this just feels like Blake hiring McLellan.

I have a hard time thinking of a GM who has done less with more. He's the Dave Tippett of GMs.

 

[kovacro]

 

[Jean Ralphio]

I am not familiar with this guy.
Is this guy just regurgitating what Friedman said this morning or is he an actual source?

He had Holland as the Oilers GM more than a week before he was hired, so there must be a relationship or in somewhere there. Likely the case if he's tweeting it now.

Ken Holland?

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[Lt Dan]

He had Holland as the Oilers GM more than a week before he was hired, so there must be a relationship or in somewhere there. Likely the case if he's tweeting it now.

Ken Holland?

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Much appreciated

 

[DryIslandBartender]

On the surface it seems like a great hire with Hollands resume at Detroit and Edmonton. Winning Cups and Stanley cup appearances at both clubs.

I don’t question his resume but as noted before he’s not being brought in for a rebuild. He’s too old for that at 70 and he’s not a long term GM. He’s going to look to add and bring in pieces that can get these guys over the hump. Maybe orchestrating a big trade deal, I expect some of our young players (Clarke, maybe Byfield for example) to be dealt for a short term fix.

I expect a very veteran team next season and rebuild will be in a couple years. This franchise is going to go all in and roll the dice on 8 and 11 again.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

How fitting that the team who attempted to play dead-puck era hockey for the better part of the last four seasons (and failed miserably when it mattered) is now bringing in a guy who won three Stanley Cups in the dead-puck era. Luc definitely loved the late 90's, and hey the Matrix did say 1999 was the peak of human civilization, no dispute from Luc.

The one positive is that it's somebody from the outside with no connection to Murray, Emerson or Yannetti. The most important thing with this organization is getting into the 2020's with how they evaluate and develop young players. Holland is a pretty big and established name (three cups are still three cups), it seems that he would want to bring in his own AGM, player development team and a bunch of new scouts.

Another positive is that Holland will be more of a vocal and transparent GM than we saw from Blake, who spoke about as in-depth as Hodor.

Luc shot this down in his presser, Holland may get his own lieutenant but I suspect it’ll continue to be Emerson. I don’t think this is the change we’re all hoping for, this is the opposite and the Kings are going all in and need a GM that can do some patch work and get the most out of these next couple years.

I don’t think Blake was on board with this plan and ultimately decided not to return. It’s pretty clear there’s no rebuild. This is a retool and someone like Holland is going to go get the Kane’s, Perry’s etc. Bunch of veterans that can get the kings past the first round.

Hiller didn’t play any of the youth, we needed 4 lines vs Edmonton. The coaching staff and management do not like the youth, they can say whatever they want in pressers but when your playing guys 5 minutes a night in the playoffs, it says otherwise.

So I expect an older and veteran team next year. Not sure if it’ll be Geriatric Kings but clearly nobody in the org trusts the young guys.

 

[chris kontos]

You don't bring in Ken Holland for a rebuild.

Were right there. Ask trevor lewis

 

[Choralone]

At least I can watch the Dodgers if I want to know what following a franchise with a present and future feels like.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Luc shot this down in his presser, Holland may get his own lieutenant but I suspect it’ll continue to be Emerson. I don’t think this is the change we’re all hoping for, this is the opposite and the Kings are going all in and need a GM that can do some patch work and get the most out of these next couple years.

I don’t think Blake was on board with this plan and ultimately decided not to return. It’s pretty clear there’s no rebuild. This is a retool and someone like Holland is going to go get the Kane’s, Perry’s etc. Bunch of veterans that can get the kings past the first round.

Hiller didn’t play any of the youth, we needed 4 lines vs Edmonton. The coaching staff and management do not like the youth, they can say whatever they want in pressers but when your playing guys 5 minutes a night in the playoffs, it says otherwise.

So I expect an older and veteran team next year. Not sure if it’ll be Geriatric Kings but clearly nobody in the org trusts the young guys.

so...it's 2017 again.

Not allow the present GM to retool/rebuild, 'we're still competitive,' run it back type bullshit.

But surely, surely this time it's different again again again

 

[FSL KINGS]

so...it's 2017 again.

Not allow the present GM to retool/rebuild, 'we're still competitive,' run it back type bullshit.

But surely, surely this time it's different again again again

It doesn't really matter at this point. Doubt any GM can overcome the lack of a pipeline & Doughty, Kopi taking up 20% of the cap. It would take a miracle to turn this thing around.

Spending too the cap & a lucky signing may keep the King's making the playoffs for a bit.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Luc shot this down in his presser, Holland may get his own lieutenant but I suspect it’ll continue to be Emerson. I don’t think this is the change we’re all hoping for, this is the opposite and the Kings are going all in and need a GM that can do some patch work and get the most out of these next couple years.

I don’t think Blake was on board with this plan and ultimately decided not to return. It’s pretty clear there’s no rebuild. This is a retool and someone like Holland is going to go get the Kane’s, Perry’s etc. Bunch of veterans that can get the kings past the first round.

Hiller didn’t play any of the youth, we needed 4 lines vs Edmonton. The coaching staff and management do not like the youth, they can say whatever they want in pressers but when your playing guys 5 minutes a night in the playoffs, it says otherwise.

So I expect an older and veteran team next year. Not sure if it’ll be Geriatric Kings but clearly nobody in the org trusts the young guys.

A 'rebuild'...you guys are hilarious.

Show me the last 100+ point team that decided to go into rebuild the following season. I'll wait.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Big yawn on Holland.

 

[Herby]

Luc shot this down in his presser, Holland may get his own lieutenant but I suspect it’ll continue to be Emerson. I don’t think this is the change we’re all hoping for, this is the opposite and the Kings are going all in and need a GM that can do some patch work and get the most out of these next couple years.

I don’t think Blake was on board with this plan and ultimately decided not to return. It’s pretty clear there’s no rebuild. This is a retool and someone like Holland is going to go get the Kane’s, Perry’s etc. Bunch of veterans that can get the kings past the first round.

Hiller didn’t play any of the youth, we needed 4 lines vs Edmonton. The coaching staff and management do not like the youth, they can say whatever they want in pressers but when your playing guys 5 minutes a night in the playoffs, it says otherwise.

So I expect an older and veteran team next year. Not sure if it’ll be Geriatric Kings but clearly nobody in the org trusts the young guys.

Trying to navigate through the some of the complete and total insanity mentioned on the latest podcast by Mayor (even crazier than usual) but Dennis Bernstein brought up the correct point, and one that was echoed by Austin Stanovich with Jesse, that you need at least one more top of the lineup player, and that you can't count on Kopitar or Doughty as part of a core four anymore. Bernstein mentioned Kempe, Byfield, Fiala and then needing a fourth. The problem is with those three, you don't need just a fourth guy, you need THE GUY, and I just don't see Mitch Marner (the best of the FA's) as that guy. Going on four calendar years since the Kings passed on pursuing Eichel, that mistake was just so massive, so many of the organizational shortcomings are very fixable if you have an MVP caliber 1C.

As for those guys coming back, you are correct that Luc did mention that. I am hoping that it's just the Kings not wanting to move on from any of Luc's former teammates officially, but that if Holland wants to hire his own Bergevin type as a special assistant, or bring in someone he trusts like Tyler Wright that he will be allowed to. It still seems strange to hire a 3 time cup winning GM and then tell him he has to keep Blake's buddies in key positions.

 

[ibleedkings]

Guess it’s better than Bergavin???