Speculation: LAK GM Search

[AbsentMojo]

And where's the winner destination? Anyone take team friendly contracts to come join a winner? Obviously before the Cups, no, you'd be stupid to do that, but after? Gaborik and his 7 years?

Look at the assets the Kings gave up for Penner, Richards, and Carter, before ever winning a 1st rd series. The Kings ultimately won, so nobody cares, but we'd normally kill a GM for doing that. Purcell, and Cloutier, and letting Moulson go on waivers, these were things we cared to talk about around here for years. DL was stupid until he wasn't. Then got really dumb when they started to not win come 2015. Teddy goddamn Purcell was a big talking point for a long time. Brian Boyle too. If you know Terry Murray isn't winning you anything, why would you keep him around while your biddy is up in Canada on his good old Canadian boy ranch? How do you let that first half+ of 11-12 be so medicore if you have an actual plan?

I showed my work. You have unfinished business w DLs tenure which is a different subject. To take DL out of the picture - can we at least agree the Kings seemed like a highly functional organization after the 1st cup up until the time Voynov pushed his wife the down the staircase?

 

[All The Kings Men]

can we at least agree the Kings seemed like a highly functional organization after the 1st cup up until the time Voynov pushed his wife the down the staircase?

Which was exactly *checks notes*

2 years
4 moths
19 days

 

[unicornpig]

DL got lucky on number of things. Smyth wanting out, failing to sign brad richards, richards and carter being available. inheriting a good core. DL failed miserably after the voynov debacle. i'll forever be grateful that be brought two cups but things cut have turned out very differently.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Which was exactly *checks notes*

2 years
4 moths
19 days

Voynov indictment, voynov practicing (100k fine to kings) and the Stoli hard rock (pun intended) thing def put a ding in the rep, but I still think a lot of players without a cup woudl consider LA a fine place to land after 2 cups. I mean what are you all arguing here - that the Kings under Lombardi didnt change their country club image?

 

[All The Kings Men]

Voynov indictment, voynov practicing (100k fine to kings) and the Stoli hard rock (pun intended) thing def put a ding in the rep, but I still think a lot of players without a cup woudl consider LA a fine place to land after 2 cups. I mean what are you all arguing here - that the Kings under Lombardi didnt change their country club image?

I'm not arguing anything I just like inserting what I consider to be relevant but annoying truths into conversations cus I'm annoying.

 

[FrozenKing18]

And where's the winner destination? Anyone take team friendly contracts to come join a winner? Obviously before the Cups, no, you'd be stupid to do that, but after? Gaborik and his 7 years?

Look at the assets the Kings gave up for Penner, Richards, and Carter, before ever winning a 1st rd series. The Kings ultimately won, so nobody cares, but we'd normally kill a GM for doing that. Purcell, and Cloutier, and letting Moulson go on waivers, these were things we cared to talk about around here for years. DL was stupid until he wasn't. Then got really dumb when they started to not win come 2015. Teddy goddamn Purcell was a big talking point for a long time. Brian Boyle too. If you know Terry Murray isn't winning you anything, why would you keep him around while your buddy is up in Canada on his good old Canadian boy ranch? How do you let that first half+ of 11-12 be so medicore if you have an actual plan?

I remember being upset about Moulson lol. Don’t think I cared for Teddy P and Boyle at that time.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Finally.

Phillip Danault + Jordan Spence for Bowem Byram + 3rd
Trevor Moore for CBJ 2nd

Signing Gavrikov 5 years x 7M
Signing Kuzmenko 2 years x 4.5M
Signing Gourde 1 years x 4.75M
Signing Laferriere 3 years x 4M
Signing Jeannot 2 years x 1.75M
Signing Byram 4 years x 5.75M
Signing Cousins 1 year x 950k

Kempe - Kopitar - Kuzmenko
Fiala - Byfield - Laferriere
Foegele - Gourde - Greentree
Jeannot - Helenius - Turcotte
*Cousins, Ziemmer

Anderson - Clarke
Byram - Gavrikov
Edmundson - Doughty
*Moverare

Kuemper
Portillo

 

[kingsholygrail]

Phillip Danault + Jordan Spence for Bowem Byram + 3rd
Trevor Moore for CBJ 2nd

Signing Gavrikov 5 years x 7M
Signing Kuzmenko 2 years x 4.5M
Signing Gourde 1 years x 4.75M
Signing Laferriere 3 years x 4M
Signing Jeannot 2 years x 1.75M
Signing Byram 4 years x 5.75M
Signing Cousins 1 year x 950k

Kempe - Kopitar - Kuzmenko
Fiala - Byfield - Laferriere
Foegele - Gourde - Greentree
Jeannot - Helenius - Turcotte
*Cousins, Ziemmer

Anderson - Clarke
Byram - Gavrikov
Edmundson - Doughty
*Moverare

Kuemper
Portillo

 

[MonkeysUncle]

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Danault never going to Waive for Buffalo., would pay Gavrikov more than 6 a year. Had great year in a contract year. Also no move should be made till new Gm is hired and he puts his stamp.on team, style etc. Gavrikov may not even fit in potential new system. That's big yes on Byram, word is he wants 8 million though

 

[kingsholygrail]

Danault never going to Waive for Buffalo., would pay Gavrikov more than 6 a year. Had great year in a contract year. Also no move should be made till new Gm is hired and he puts his stamp.on team, style etc. Gavrikov may not even fit in potential new system. That's big yes on Byram, word is he wants 8 million though

KingsHockey24 has ways of making Danault waive.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Phillip Danault + Jordan Spence for Bowem Byram + 3rd
Trevor Moore for CBJ 2nd

Signing Gavrikov 5 years x 7M
Signing Kuzmenko 2 years x 4.5M
Signing Gourde 1 years x 4.75M
Signing Laferriere 3 years x 4M
Signing Jeannot 2 years x 1.75M
Signing Byram 4 years x 5.75M
Signing Cousins 1 year x 950k

Kempe - Kopitar - Kuzmenko
Fiala - Byfield - Laferriere
Foegele - Gourde - Greentree
Jeannot - Helenius - Turcotte
*Cousins, Ziemmer

Anderson - Clarke
Byram - Gavrikov
Edmundson - Doughty
*Moverare

Kuemper
Portillo

Needs more snarl. Maybe switch out the chrome domes for some horned Viking helmets. Why is Doughty still here. Just erase that & no one will notice.

Clifford being added in a coaching function?

 

[KingsHockey24]

Needs more snarl. Maybe switch out the chrome domes for some horned Viking helmets. Why is Doughty still here. Just erase that & no one will notice.

Clifford being added in a coaching function?

I'm appointing Clifford as the teams physical therapist.

 

[johnjm22]

If Marner is a UFA, I absolutely believe LA will try and sign him.

I think he stays Toronto though. They have the cap space.

Fiala-Byfield-Laferriere
Marner-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Foegle
Turcotte-Helenius-Jeannot

If Toronto signs Marner and Tavares to big contracts, Knies could be vulnerable to an offer sheet.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Marner is not a significant enough upgrade over Kuzmenko to warrant an extra 8M more than what Kuz wants.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

KingsHockey24 has ways of making Danault waive.

Don't even think the most powerful Jedi or Sith can make him waive for Buffalo

 

[Johnny Utah]

Marner is not a significant enough upgrade over Kuzmenko to warrant an extra 8M more than what Kuz wants.

Disagree. Marner is a star player in his prime. The strike on him has been his playoff and big game performances but he’s looked good so far and at Four Nations.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Disagree. Marner is a star player in his prime. The strike on him has been his playoff and big game performances but he’s looked good so far and at Four Nations.

Marner has been doing it constantly and I wouldn't hesitate to sign him to 7x$12.5, but also depends on new Gm and if his allowed to change style of play a pull stick out Hillers a.. about 90% defense and offense if you only have opportunity

 

[johnjm22]

Phillip Danault + Jordan Spence for Bowem Byram + 3rd

You seriously underate Danault's trade value.

Byram isn't any better than Spence.

 

[johnjm22]

Disagree. Marner is a star player in his prime. The strike on him has been his playoff and big game performances but he’s looked good so far and at Four Nations.

Marner has also been nominated for a Selke.

Kings love 2-way players.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Marner has also been nominated for a Selke.

Kings love 2-way players.

Also much rather see Marner with Qb and Fiala, than Kuz with Kopitar and Kempe

 

[johnjm22]

Also much rather see Marner with Qb and Fiala, than Kuz with Kopitar and Kempe

Dream scenario. Sign both.

Fiala-Byfield-Marner
Kuzmenko-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Foegle
Laferriere-Helenius-Jeannot
Turcotte

We'd have no money for the defense, but that's a hell of a forward group.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Dream scenario. Sign both.

Fiala-Byfield-Marner
Kuzmenko-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Foegle
Laferriere-Helenius-Jeannot
Turcotte

We'd have no money for the defense, but that's a hell of a forward group.

Got bounced due to short bench & lack of toughness, finishing checks.

Yeah, that roster screams "King's Hockey".

Edit: Could see King's doing exactly that.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Dream scenario. Sign both.

Fiala-Byfield-Marner
Kuzmenko-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Foegle
Laferriere-Helenius-Jeannot
Turcotte

We'd have no money for the defense, but that's a hell of a forward group.

Spitballing here, Move Moore , dont resign Gavrikov, think Kings will regret both $$ and term. Sign Marner and Boeser and start July 1st with.
Fiala-Qb-Marner
Boeser-Kopitar-Kempe
Foegle-Danault-Laferriere
Jeannot-Helenius-Turcotte
Then at draft look for upgrade on left defense

 

[FrozenKing18]

Phillip Danault + Jordan Spence for Bowem Byram + 3rd
Trevor Moore for CBJ 2nd

Signing Gavrikov 5 years x 7M
Signing Kuzmenko 2 years x 4.5M
Signing Gourde 1 years x 4.75M
Signing Laferriere 3 years x 4M
Signing Jeannot 2 years x 1.75M
Signing Byram 4 years x 5.75M
Signing Cousins 1 year x 950k

Kempe - Kopitar - Kuzmenko
Fiala - Byfield - Laferriere
Foegele - Gourde - Greentree
Jeannot - Helenius - Turcotte
*Cousins, Ziemmer

Anderson - Clarke
Byram - Gavrikov
Edmundson - Doughty
*Moverare

Kuemper
Portillo

For this dream scenario, if you’re prying a D away from BUF you might as well try for Dahlin.

 

[kinghock]

Spitballing here, Move Moore , dont resign Gavrikov, think Kings will regret both $$ and term. Sign Marner and Boeser and start July 1st with.
Fiala-Qb-Marner
Boeser-Kopitar-Kempe
Foegle-Danault-Laferriere
Jeannot-Helenius-Turcotte
Then at draft look for upgrade on left defense

I agree with the following: move Moore, do not resign Gavrikov and Sign Marner.

I prefer to sign Kuzmenko and Jeannot over Boeser.