Proposal: LAK - DET
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norrisnick
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Wings probably want to extend Walman. Apparently he was someone Yzerman had his eyes on for years and made a point to get him included in the Leddy deal.
That and apparently the Wings took Bertuzzi off the market.
I don't see the Wings trading Seider's partner.
But... Might I interest you in one Ben Chiarot?
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norrisnick
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He's back. He just got dinged up a bit in that collision with um... drawing a massive blank on #16s name.... Um.... Zadorov!
Contract a little long but in theory his size is what the Kings are looking for. How has he played? If there's some retention....
norrisnick
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In full disclosure, Chiarot is a defensive metric nightmare. He's rangy, hyper physical, but likes to send teammates hand grenades disguised as passes when he gets in trouble and is structurally outmatched against top end competition. Give him PK duties and a bottom of the lineup assignment and he's fine. Weirdly he's actually pretty good with the puck in the offensive zone, but beyond that he's like a dog chasing a car. Great if he catches it, but he doesn't always catch it. Maybe a tiny bit, but I'd hesitate to eat too much. Maybe enough to drop him to an even $4
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kilowatt
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I feel like Walman is worth a lot more than that? Like... at least a second and a decent prospect, or maybe a good prospect and a third?
To LA: Walman
To Detroit: Helge Grans or LA's 2023 2nd, Akil Thomas or Pittsburgh's 2023 3rd
Not even sure that would be enough
(This is assuming you could sign him to an extension)
To LA: Walman
To Detroit: Helge Grans or LA's 2023 2nd, Akil Thomas or Pittsburgh's 2023 3rd
Not even sure that would be enough
(This is assuming you could sign him to an extension)
That's fair. A lot was hinged on his pending UFA status but I could still be offI feel like Walman is worth a lot more than that? Like... at least a second and a decent prospect, or maybe a good prospect and a third?
To LA: Walman
To Detroit: Helge Grans or LA's 2023 2nd, Akil Thomas or Pittsburgh's 2023 3rd
Not even sure that would be enough
(This is assuming you could sign him to an extension)
kilowatt
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Yeah. For a UFA... I don't know, I still think it'd be more than that. I guess if I'm Detroit, I'm probably doing anything I can to re-sign a guy like him.
Maurice of Orange
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Jake Walman started the season on injured reserve but has been playing in Detroit’s lineup since the middle of November.
Walman has played in 35 games and has 5g-4a-9pts, playing just under 19 minutes a night.
Jake did miss two games during the week with a minor injury but played in Detroit’s last game against Calgary.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Blake is pretty good at giving 'fair' value for pendingUFAs if he's allowed to negotiate with them first. That's a win for everyone involved.
Walman never played a full season his whole life.
Beside that, fair deal i believe.
But no for above reasons
Beside that, fair deal i believe.
But no for above reasons
We do not trade for 31 year old
BringTheReign
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Yep, I’m a Kings fan and Walman is definitely worth more given how he’s played even in a small sample.I feel like Walman is worth a lot more than that? Like... at least a second and a decent prospect, or maybe a good prospect and a third?
To LA: Walman
To Detroit: Helge Grans or LA's 2023 2nd, Akil Thomas or Pittsburgh's 2023 3rd
Not even sure that would be enough
(This is assuming you could sign him to an extension)
MBH
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I feel like Walman is worth a lot more than that? Like... at least a second and a decent prospect, or maybe a good prospect and a third?
To LA: Walman
To Detroit: Helge Grans or LA's 2023 2nd, Akil Thomas or Pittsburgh's 2023 3rd
Not even sure that would be enough
(This is assuming you could sign him to an extension)
Walman's sample size is too small to take those numbers too seriously.
But if someone wants to pay big for Walman, I'll take it.
Give me Lias Andersson and a 2nd.
So by your logic we should get rid of Doughty because he's already older than that. Give it a break
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Why would wings accept a 4th round pick for their 1LD who has chemistry with Seider?
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Oddbob
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YUCK!
If we aren't getting a 2nd for him, we just keep him. Even a second isn't a must to move him, because he has been our 2nd or 3rd best defender this year.
I am not familar with his game care to give me strenghts and weakness ? is he on pk?
Oddbob
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He isn't outright awful, but his chosen play-style doesn't suit his skills. He skates the puck into the other end like a puck mover with great offensive skills, which are average at best, and his skillset is physical and should be stay at home defender. He also gets out of position going for hits sometime. If you can get him a partner who can read and react to his all over the map playstyle and no more than 20 minutes a night he would be a solid player. He is really only overpaid by a mil at most, but I don't think Yzerman is going to want to retain already. I suspect he is in Detroit at least through next season.
Oddbob
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Tyler Madden is 23 years old and a former 3rd round pick. He can be fetched for futures/cond. 7th or nothing. That means he has no value. People on our board are already giving up on Zadina who is younger and was drafted higher.
kilowatt
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I'd consider that if Blake thinks he can sign Walman to a reasonable extension. For a physical second- or third-pairing left handed defenseman, especially at 26 years old, it'd be worth it. With Fiala, the Kings' rebuild went from 0-60.
I do agree, Madden has zero trade value. A team might think they can turn him into something, but to suggest he has more value than a 5th or 6th round pick right now is just wishful thinking.
Anderson - Doughty
Walman - Durzi
Bjornfot - Roy
You could swap out Durzi for one of Clarke or Spence next season too. And if the Kings happen to land Chychrun too, all the better:
Anderson - Doughty
Chychrun - Roy
Walman - Durzi
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