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After they sign Laine to his new contract there will be budget cuts at Bell Mts
Wingers don't make as much as Centers so I would toss out all Center comparables and would show the following list of long term contracts signed relative recently by RFA Wingers
Gaudreau - 6 * $6,75,000 - 9.25% of Cap Ceiling
Pastrnak - 6 * $6,666,666 - 8.89% of Cap Ceiling
Tarasenko - 8 * $7,500,000 - 10.27% of Cap Ceiling
P. Kane - 5 * $6,300,000 - 11.09% of Cap Ceiling
Hall - 7 * $6,000,000 - 10.00% of Cap Ceiling
Forsberg - 6 * $6,000,000 - 8.22% of Cap Ceiling
Ehlers - 7 * $6,000,000 - 8.00% of Cap Ceiling
To me Tarasenko is the high water mark as Drai was signed as a center.
Tarasenko was coming off a 37 goal season when he signed that deal. So I would expect a long term contract would likely be in the 10%+ of the cap ceiling range. So probably an AAV of $8,000,000 to $8,800,000 (if he signs for 11% of an $80,000,000 ceiling).
Laine will be our highest paid player but I don't see a market where he's getting $9+.
My guess is 8 by $8,400,000 (10.5% of Cap Ceiling. A bit more than Tarasenko). Patty Kane's contract was signed a long time ago and the cap was going up at a significantly faster rate at the time. It's almost too old to include so if I were Chevy I'd be arguing to toss it but for these purposes I've showed it.
OV signed a 13 year deal at $9,538,462 which was 16.82% of the Cap Ceiling at the time. He was coming off of a 65 goal 47 assist season. 112 points in 82 games. Arguably the best statistical season of his career.
40+ goal seasons are nice, but they're nowhere near 65 goals.
With these numbers it's easy to get disappointed on July.
The guy is competing for Rocket at 19y, goals have the most value, Drai again signed for 8.5M contract, Eichel 10M. Laine hopefully signs somewhere between, if he does it's a damm steal.
drai's contract is also from bad management
we all know it's not s great contract so why use that an as example?
if it's anything it shows you how not to sign your players
It's a precedent. The fact that it wasn't a wise decision won't factor into negotiations.
drai's contract is also from bad management
we all know it's not s great contract so why use that an as example?
if it's anything it shows you how not to sign your players
Because that contract set the new bar, and Laine has destroyed Drai's 1st 2 seasons after the draft.
Drai at 8.5M, Eichel at 10M, McDavid at 12.5M. Good luck at getting Laine for 6-7.5M.
Laine can be the best goal scorer through his prime, imagine having him in 9M range when the superstars are going to be getting 12M+ contracts during the length of Laines 8 year contract.
I don't like Drai's contract at all, you don't like it, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter what we think of it.
a good manger doesn't allow others dictate how you manage your salary cap
It takes more than a Gm to get a deal done.
I hope Laine leaves money on the table but he can ask for the moon with what he has done. He's doing someting no one else from the last 20+ years has done.
yeah it he's no mcdavid so as a manger I wouldn't agree with that thought process
you gotta handle it like Ricky would
if I could find the scene I'd post it
"I got 4 packs of smokes here's 2. if you wanna shoot me for 4 packs of smokes go ahead"
Who's said 12.5M for Laine?
Eichels career high is 24 in goals, Laine is already at 41 this season, but he deserves 3M less than Eichel?
Goals are the most valuable asset in this league.
You neither treat your franchise guys badly, so they'll need to offer him a fair deal.
Dont know about that but Laine is better player than Eichel.exactly
so if we're gonna go by that logic why didn't ehlers get 10? when he scored 25 goals last year
exactly
so if we're gonna go by that logic why didn't ehlers get 10? when he scored 25 goals last year
then why is it being brought up?
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You're going to be disappointed on July.
You should already know the difference('s) between Ehlers, Laine& Eichel.
I know but I'm just saying. you used eichels goals as example, but we all know it doesn't work that way
i hope laine signs for 8 max. I still think he's too raw for that kind of money. needs to get his skates under him still, but I don't think he's worth 9 or 10 million
as I said before the only player I think is worth 10 million is mcdavid
I don't think he will be raw 2-10 years from now. Not at all. People do not stay teenagers for 10 years.
Besides, he is already TOP-2 overall winger for the Jets and currently (last 15 games or so) TOP-1 forward when he is flying and Scheifele is injured.
yeah but I don't like to gamble
you ever play poker? you usually don't go all in hoping to river your card
I know but I'm just saying. you used eichels goals as example, but we all know it doesn't work that way
i hope laine signs for 8 max. I still think he's too raw for that kind of money. needs to get his skates under him still, but I don't think he's worth 9 or 10 million
as I said before the only player I think is worth 10 million is mcdavid
If Laine signs 8-9M you should honestly thank your lucky stars and never stop smiling.
Yep. He's going to get at least $8M x 6/7/8, IMO. Yes, you're paying for potential, but look at what he's doing at 19 as a gangly, barely grown-up kid. RFA vs. UFA contracts (and buying up UFA years on a big contract) is becoming more important to managing cap.
Yep. He's going to get at least $8M x 6/7/8, IMO. Yes, you're paying for potential, but look at what he's doing at 19 as a gangly, barely grown-up kid. RFA vs. UFA contracts (and buying up UFA years on a big contract) is becoming more important to managing cap.
I can't see the gamble here. Even if he didn't have any kind of progress he is already worth more that you were giving to him. And there is just no way that he would not get better over time, unless he got injured big time, but that is the risk for every single contract out there.