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Hell "f" no from cbjLaine & Stastny for PLD, Gavrikov & a 1st/2nd?
Hell "f" no from cbjLaine & Stastny for PLD, Gavrikov & a 1st/2nd?
PLD would fill a hole for the Jets no doubt. And Laine is at a position we have an excess of (kinda). So I can see why it makes sense for the Jets to make the trade.
But I think they’d still rather hold onto Laine (i.e. they value him more).
You’ll get a lot of “OnE DiMeNsIoNaL” replies from the usual suspects who didn’t watch Laine at all last season, though.
My point of view would be that if you already have good C in your team, goalscorers with Laine's talent are very rare species. Then again if you absolutely need top 2 C to be successful PLD might be more valuable for your team. In SC-contenders I'd say Laine is more valuable than PLD most of the time. Could be wrong obviously...
Laine can be a much better player than Dubois while also being less valuable for CBJ.Is this how most people see it? Laine has scored 138 goals in the NHL at the age of 22. There can't be many ahead of him in that category considering every player that ever played in the league and while he struggled during 18-19 it's quite reasonable to think he'll be one of the best goalscorers of the league in the next decade or so. He's just too talented not to be (excl. injuries of course).
While generally C>W I think Dubois has to improve some to be considered clearly the more valuable player of the two.
Too many double negatives for me answer that question yes or no (sorry, I got confused), but: I do not believe Chevy would trade Laine for PLD straight up. This is just speculation on my part though. I have no inside knowledge.You don't think if Chevy was offered PLD for Laine he's say no?
Hell "f" no from cbj
I believe PLD has more value than Laine without a doubt. How much, I don't know.
I believe PLD has more value than Laine without a doubt. How much, I don't know.
That isn't even close to the truth. Laine was upset that he had to play with Little in previous seasons. He wanted out before the jets ever traded to get Statsny back from Vegas. When he played with Statsny in 2018 he had a ton of success. Part of the reason they traded to get Statsny back was that they wanted to try and make Laine happy.The whole point of Laine wanting out of WPG is so Statsny is not his center
If C's were so much more valuable than wingers than wingers wouldn't get a sniff in the top half of every first round. The position is more valuable I'm not denying that, but I think it's way overblown on here. 3 years from now if Byfeild or Stutzel are 10-25 points behind Lafreniere are they more valuable because of position? If so why were they not taken ahead of the winger?I get that Columbus needs centers, but that's the only reason any Columbus fans should be scoffing at that idea. Laine is more valuable than PLD in general and if I'm the Jets, I want Columbus to add more.
Of course, this'll get a bunch of outraged responses that PLD only doesn't score more because he's so focused on defense (as if Laine isn't regularly the first guy back).
I get that Columbus needs centers, but that's the only reason any Columbus fans should be scoffing at that idea. Laine is more valuable than PLD in general and if I'm the Jets, I want Columbus to add more.
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Laine can be a much better player than Dubois while also being less valuable for CBJ.
That's the problem with trading an elite wingers for an elite center or Dman. In a vacuum, sure Laine is better than Dubois. But to trade for an elite winger (pretty much 1 for 1), you need a team with 2 elite centers and a really good 3rd otherwise you screw up your lineup and you end up with a 1 line team. I've seen what a 1 line team can do, they lose.
If C's were so much more valuable than wingers than wingers wouldn't get a sniff in the top half of every first round. The position is more valuable I'm not denying that, but I think it's way overblown on here. 3 years from now if Byfeild or Stutzel are 10-25 points behind Lafreniere are they more valuable because of position? If so why were they not taken ahead of the winger?
Also any trade discussion involving Laine it's important to note that he should be valued at his lowest point and any player coming back should be valued at their highest potential.
Yup. I couldn't agree more. Both being the same age and Laine has outscored Dubois by such a significant amount. There really is no plausible, unbiased argument to be made for Dubois being more valuable.If C's were so much more valuable than wingers than wingers wouldn't get a sniff in the top half of every first round. The position is more valuable I'm not denying that, but I think it's way overblown on here. 3 years from now if Byfeild or Stutzel are 10-25 points behind Lafreniere are they more valuable because of position? If so why were they not taken ahead of the winger?
Also any trade discussion involving Laine it's important to note that he should be valued at his lowest point and any player coming back should be valued at their highest potential.
Wouldn’t laine and Roslovic for PLD make the most sense here?
...with a d coming back.
Wouldn’t laine and Roslovic for PLD make the most sense here?
I’m positive that this is not the pointThe whole point of Laine wanting out of WPG is so Statsny is not his center
Ha, not at all but okay.The whole point of Laine wanting out of WPG is so Statsny is not his center
oNe DiMeNsioNaLLaine with 2g 1a 3p with +1. He had 3 hits and 1 block on the night. Was all over the ice and played good defensively. Seemed to have gained more speed during the break. Jumped in on Hanifin after he crosschecked Connor. He looked almost like an old-school powerforward out there. Obviously best player of the game. I`m pretty confident he is NOT available.