Get ready to hear the French media praising Lafleur for what he said. Each time Lafleur says something, the French media are all impressed and congratulating him. He can tell the RDS "journalists" to eat crap and they will tell you that it doesn't taste that bad.
News Article: Lafleur says Vanek, Patches should GTFO
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fordillingerlifesake
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Vanek? Maybe.
Patches? No. Patches had a tough start to the series. Him and Deharnais play a pretty fancy style toghether. It took time for both to understand how to make it happen in the playoffs, and I can see them both having a semi-meh playoff next year. But they are not afraid. They pay the price. They go in the tough spots. They'll figure a way of playing that allows them to succeed in the playoffs like they do in the regular season, and they'll be much better players for it.
Patches? No. Patches had a tough start to the series. Him and Deharnais play a pretty fancy style toghether. It took time for both to understand how to make it happen in the playoffs, and I can see them both having a semi-meh playoff next year. But they are not afraid. They pay the price. They go in the tough spots. They'll figure a way of playing that allows them to succeed in the playoffs like they do in the regular season, and they'll be much better players for it.
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What's frustrating about patches is he's a guy who has a strong work ethic, his off-season training is outstanding, he's in top shape, but he isn't aggressive enough in games, he's already a great goal scorer, but he has the ability to be a game changer every single shift if he would work on the ice like he does in the gym.
He seems more concerned about personal achievements than team success and he seems to like to pout a bit imo, but he's a great young player on a great contract, no reason to part with him, but he has potential to be even better.
He seems more concerned about personal achievements than team success and he seems to like to pout a bit imo, but he's a great young player on a great contract, no reason to part with him, but he has potential to be even better.
Pacioretty and Vanek didn't do that bad. It's not like anybody else aside from Subban was lighting it up.
Pacioretty was tied for second, with hero Rene Bourque, for points by a forward. Vanek was one point behind them.
P.K. Subban, D 17 5 9 14 27:26:00
Lars Eller, C 17 5 8 13 16:27
Max Pacioretty, LW 17 5 6 11 19:19
Rene Bourque, LW 17 8 3 11 14:40
Brendan Gallagher, RW 17 4 7 11 16:36
Thomas Vanek, LW 17 5 5 10 14:53
Andrei Markov, D 17 1 9 10 26:00:00
Tomas Plekanec, C 17 4 5 9 20:19
David Desharnais, C 17 2 6 8 18:40
Dale Weise, RW 16 3 4 7 10:14
Brian Gionta, RW 17 1 6 7 17:49
Daniel Briere, C 16 3 4 7 10:05
Mike Weaver, D 17 1 3 4 15:34
Alex Galchenyuk, C 5 2 1 3 15:01
Alexei Emelin, D 15 0 2 2 22:21
Nathan Beaulieu, D 7 0 2 2 10:46
Francis Bouillon, D 9 2 0 2 14:13
Josh Gorges, D 17 0 2 2 23:27
Brandon Prust, RW 13 0 2 2 12:13
Michael Bournival, LW 14 0 1 1 10:16
Vanek hasn't topped 35 goals since 2008-2009. He might be a 30 goal scorer now, that remains to be seen.
BLONG7
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Love Lafleur, but man he is too outspoken, when he names names, it seems to create controversy...as someone already said he is no LeGros Bill # 4
Max had a great season, and a good playoffs, he is developing very well, Vanek by his own admission was a disappointment in the playoffs...so why does Guy need to do this???
Max had a great season, and a good playoffs, he is developing very well, Vanek by his own admission was a disappointment in the playoffs...so why does Guy need to do this???
He does? How does he know what it takes to win games today? In the 70s? Sure. Keep him mind you're talking about a player that used to smoke between periods. Should I elaborate as to how today's NHL has nothing to do with his time.
He's right, we don't win with 30-40 goal scorers. Nope. I mean, they were shutdown well during the POs so obviously, it's 100% sure that the reason why is that they do not care. Crosby scored 1 goal all POs this year, obviously he didn't really care this season. Duh!
Lafleur is an idiot. He was an amazing player, but he's an idiot.
BLONG7
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lol good one...but you didn't answer the question? Why does Guy feel the need to do this?
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Seems to me the object of the game hasn't changed. The team that scores more goals wins, no? Guy knew how to do that best.
PsychoticHab
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5 points in 6 games, 8 points in 17 games, and 1 point in 6 games... now here's the stat line of a proven winner. (Especially considering the era)
0 points in 4 games and 11 points in 17 games...and this would be the stat line to someone you'll never win with.
0 points in 4 games and 11 points in 17 games...and this would be the stat line to someone you'll never win with.
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He was on pace for 43 in last year's shortened season. He's still a pretty good goalscorer. And Max scored 39 while missing something like 8 games this year.
Both are legit 1st liners. Both had mediocre/bad playoff runs. Not saying folks shouldn't be upset with them but to write them off entirely is ludicrous. Rene Bourque coasts for 82 games - is he a better winger? I don't think so man.
And yes, everyone would take the playoff performer but you can't predict when a mediocre player like say John Druce is going to step up. That stuff happens all the time.
Suggesting that we get rid of our best wingers because they had a bad run is just flat out stupid.
Guy has every right to speak his mind, and he's not wrong.
I would only get rid of vanek at most, but his opinion should hold weight. Lafelur delivered as much as anyone could in his time and has earned the right to speak on a subject that is relevant to his experience
I would only get rid of vanek at most, but his opinion should hold weight. Lafelur delivered as much as anyone could in his time and has earned the right to speak on a subject that is relevant to his experience
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hes right somehow on his perception of them but I think we need to keep them
he was right about koivu...that guy never gave us anything for what he was asked, but that was a management error, he should have been a 2nd or 3rd liner
vanek was used like **** in the playoff, i dont really blame him.. its a gamble but we need a player like him
pacioretty is too weak on 1v1 as 1st line winger, he can dangle around but he cant dangle through..we need player that gets through the ****
if we can keep both guys to play a full season alltogether with desharnais..**** could get real
he was right about koivu...that guy never gave us anything for what he was asked, but that was a management error, he should have been a 2nd or 3rd liner
vanek was used like **** in the playoff, i dont really blame him.. its a gamble but we need a player like him
pacioretty is too weak on 1v1 as 1st line winger, he can dangle around but he cant dangle through..we need player that gets through the ****
if we can keep both guys to play a full season alltogether with desharnais..**** could get real
The object of a game is one thing. Building a winning team is an entirely different one.
That's my biggest issue with all these overreactions. Playoffs are tough. I think it's pretty obvious a lot of people here don't realize not every player can just step it up in every PO series. Even the best player in the NHL gets shutdown at times during POs.
Crosby had 1 goal. Hossa 2 goals. Sharp only 10pts. Are all these guys losers that should be traded? Guys you don't win with?
Boyon90
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how is 8 in 17 and 1 in 6 winners stats..even considering the era that really sucks
thats inferior to .5 per game
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I'd trade Max for the right price. Absolutely. But no point trading him just to trade him. Would have to be for significant pieces. I don't like his game, though and would love to package him and DD in a deal for a top winger who is physical and a top 4 dman. Something like Kane and Bogosian..would add a pick.
Get rid of everyone. Can't even compete hard enough to make the finals. Price completely disappeared.
Nope. Max had a gread season I agree, but was bad for most of the playoffs save a couple of games.
