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Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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All The Kings Men said:
LHD is definitely the shallow part of the pool but Anderson and Doughty are insanely effective together, Bjornfot is what... 20?

I can absolutely understand the argument for bringing in a guy like Chychrun based on age and contract and the idea that he would upgrade that spot... I just don't think it's the priority everybody else does.

There's more Alex Edler's out there or Moverares, Kirsanovs etc

I won't cry if they make a move I just don't believe it's the obvious fix that some do and I'm not sure it's a problem that "needs" fixing today.
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Cant argue with that. Bjornfot and Anderson are solid and they need one more lefty to round it out. I like Moverare but hes a bit redundant with the other two. He should be the 7th dman next season and be the first to get a shot if a left dman goes down. Someone like Chychrun with size and good offensive instincts is a very nice fit to whats already here if I must say but maybe not at that cost.
 
Kings are currently 9th in GAA at 2.66. 5th place is 2.63

Just being league average PK would mean a GAA of 2.55. Good for 4th. And that is not even factoring in one less goal here and there means no OT and thus no OT goal against (7 OTL), dropping the GAA even further.

Defense is good enough if the PK is fixed to league average. It's the scoring winger that's a need.
 
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Woudln't be surprised if one of the RHDs goes to the left side, or if a 2022 draftee eventually fills it. It's a 'need' but not even as much as a blue chip G, and definitely not one we should be desperate about

If i hear one more word about a prospect and high pick for Chiarot I might throw my keyboard, that would be the absolute dumbest. At least Chychrun is understandable in a lot of ways, Chiarot is just an overly-expensive PK pylon/crosschecking machine who is only 'worth' that much becasue he's in MTL. If he were going TO MTL the price would be a late 2nd and 3rd.
 
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All The Kings Men said:
Nobody knows.

It was reported that Blake said that he was going to meet with Brown over the break to "talk about his future" and people interpreted that as they pleased or didn't interpret it but just casually tossed it out as a possibility and then other people paying less attention than the first person repeated it and it got repeated and repeated and repeated and now it's referenced as if it's fact.
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Hopefully, "the talk about the future" is about now (and not about next year, except when he wants his retirement game and won't be playing next year) and in telling him that Vilardi is hot and would be a better fit with Byfield and that he may have to sit a few games...to see what Gabe can do on line 3 RW...AND the Powerplay, since Gabe is putting away many in the slot and front on the PP.
 
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Kings are currently 9th in GAA at 2.66. 5th place is 2.63

Just being league average PK would mean a GAA of 2.55. Good for 4th. And that is not even factoring in one less goal here and there means no OT and thus no OT goal against (7 OTL), dropping the GAA even further.

Defense is good enough if the PK is fixed to league average. It's the scoring winger that's a need.
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Not that I'm disagreeing with you, because I'm not and I do think we need a top end scoring winger, but I think there's at times a belief or underlying tone that low GAA means the blueline is good and a low GPG means the forwards are bad (or aren't good enough). Sometimes the issue of a poor offense is the blueline, specifically the transition and first pass, as well as the point on the powerplay. LA lacks a true point presence to help the powerplay just as much as they could use a sniper on that unit and the transition from D-zone out could use someone who makes a nice outlet play. Doughty's amazing but he can't play 30+ a night and beyond him we don't have much offensive talent on the blueline. We also have to concede some of the strong defensive play is system based, meaning the forwards, especially guys like Danault, play a large part in it. We also sit sixth in the league in faceoff win rate overall and are I believe higher in defensive zone faceoff win rates, All which helps the GAA.

I think improving the puck mobility on the backend can help out our powerplay and our offense overall, and an upgrade on the backend wouldn't be a bad idea depending on what's available and the cost. I still think Mark Giordano would be a nice add.
 
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With the unexpected Durzi recently and the future skilled RHD coming up (Clarke, Spence, etc.), the "skilled" puck moving LHD with size is no longer a huge need. There's sufficient skill being developed now and coming in the D. What still is a need is someone with size who actually uses it properly. PK more so than PP.
I'd prefer to get that with a LHD but it's not mandatory anymore -- could come with a 3rd or 4th line winger.
 
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Nowadays it seems like everyone is concerned with defensemen playing on their "correct" side. Right shooters on the right-side, left shooters on the left-side.

Back in the day I don't remember it being that big of a deal for a defensemen to play on their "off" side.

Surely some of our up and coming right shooting dmen can play on the left. I know there's arguments for why you want a player on the side that matches their forehand, but I thinks there's advantages to playing on the off-side as well. Just depends on the player IMO.

I shoot right, but much prefer to play on the left. But I'm also a winger.
 
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johnjm22 said:
Nowadays it seems like everyone is concerned with defensemen playing on their "correct" side. Right shooters on the right-side, left shooters on the left-side.

Back in the day I don't remember it being that big of a deal for a defensemen to play on their "off" side.

Surely some of our up and coming right shooting dmen can play on the left. I know there's arguments for why you want a player on the side that matches their forehand, but I thinks there's advantages to playing on the off-side as well. Just depends on the player IMO.

I shoot right, but much prefer to play on the left. But I'm also a winger.
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I loved my off side as a dman in my beer leagues. Felt strange playing the other side honestly.
 
johnjm22 said:
Nowadays it seems like everyone is concerned with defensemen playing on their "correct" side. Right shooters on the right-side, left shooters on the left-side.

Back in the day I don't remember it being that big of a deal for a defensemen to play on their "off" side.

Surely some of our up and coming right shooting dmen can play on the left. I know there's arguments for why you want a player on the side that matches their forehand, but I thinks there's advantages to playing on the off-side as well. Just depends on the player IMO.

I shoot right, but much prefer to play on the left. But I'm also a winger.
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LAKings88 said:
I loved my off side as a dman in my beer leagues. Felt strange playing the other side honestly.
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Ok, let's not start talking about beer league experience.

RHD have always been more rare than LHD. That's why which side a guy plays tends to be a big deal. RHD are like left handed pitchers. You'll see far more LHD play the right side than RHD play the left side, but you wouldn't want a defense of all RHD. If the Kings have excess RHD, you include them in a deal, because they're more valuable. If Doughty and Durzi are sticking around, then you have to figure out which 2 or 3 are going to go between Roy, Walker, Clarke, and Spence. If this is a luxury the Kings possess, then you get to play the ideal game. Ideally you want 3 very good RHD. Doughty/Voynov/Greene, that was perfect.
 
Schrute farms beets said:
With the unexpected Durzi recently and the future skilled RHD coming up (Clarke, Spence, etc.), the "skilled" puck moving LHD with size is no longer a huge need. There's sufficient skill being developed now and coming in the D. What still is a need is someone with size who actually uses it properly. PK more so than PP.
I'd prefer to get that with a LHD but it's not mandatory anymore -- could come with a 3rd or 4th line winger.
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Will Carson Soucy for Athanasiou, Strand, and a 3rd do?
 
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KingsFan7824 said:
Ok, let's not start talking about beer league experience.

RHD have always been more rare than LHD. That's why which side a guy plays tends to be a big deal. RHD are like left handed pitchers. You'll see far more LHD play the right side than RHD play the left side, but you wouldn't want a defense of all RHD. If the Kings have excess RHD, you include them in a deal, because they're more valuable. If Doughty and Durzi are sticking around, then you have to figure out which 2 or 3 are going to go between Roy, Walker, Clarke, and Spence. If this is a luxury the Kings possess, then you get to play the ideal game. Ideally you want 3 very good RHD. Doughty/Voynov/Greene, that was perfect.
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If I can do it why can’t they ;)

This is why a trade should probably involve one of Spence or Grans. Definitely Walker if possible. If they don’t play on the opposite side you need to maximize their trade value.

Walker may have to play the other side just to stay a King.
 
kingsfan28 said:
He'd be nice, but pass, especially at those prices. You give up that for Makar or Fox, not him. 2 first....:laugh:
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You aren't even going to get a reply if that was the offer for Makar or Fox if they were available.

lumbergh said:
Will Carson Soucy for Athanasiou, Strand, and a 3rd do?
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Not from Seattle's viewpoint. Two depth pieces and a 3rd isn't going to get you much.
 
kingsfan said:
You aren't even going to get a reply if that was the offer for Makar or Fox if they were available.



Not from Seattle's viewpoint. Two depth pieces and a 3rd isn't going to get you much.
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No player is worth 3 first rounders, even those two. Although he was a few years past his prime, Karlsson was for only 1 first and 4 players. I bet if those two were being shopped. 2 picks and 3 players [top prospects] would get it done. JC is not worth what they're asking.
 
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