Proposal: LA Kings 2017 1st to Vegas for drafting Brown

[Rorschach]

LA pays Vegas a 1st rounder not only to protect the rest of the roster in the draft, but also to unload Brown's contract.

Vegas adds a 1st to their rebuild and Brown can become the captain. He may also be one of the best players, ability-wise that Vegas might be able to draft and he's a much better player than Trevor Lewis, the next best player projected to be available.

If Vegas follows through with picking off every young talent and best unprotected defenseman in order to build up assets, then Brown's cap hit won't be very bad unlike how it is for a cap team like LA.

I think Vegas, if they play their cards right, can squeeze multiple firsts from this expansion draft from cap dumping teams like LA and dman-hungry teams like just about every team.

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[SeaOfBlue]

I doubt a likely late first is enough to entice them for both of those things to happen, especially since they could get a nice player from LA.

You could probably trade the first and something else to unload Brown on Vegas, if they want Brown, but you'd probably still have the expansion to worry about.

 

[CorgisPer60]

A mid-to-late first-round pick would be perfect for Kelly McCrimmon, who has an excellent track record of scouting and organizing young Talent. I'm sure that a first-round pick for LV drafting Brown would be enticing for them. I really don't think LA Kings should do it though, considering that their own depth is sorely being tested.

 

[Halla]

I think LA would have to retain some and send a 1st for vegas to take him.

Brown likely has the worst contract in the league. can't see vegas ownership wanting to pay a bottom 6 player 6mil/year for 5 years.

[email protected] (30% retained), LA 1st 2017 for not selecting anyone else on the roster.

 

[Pia8988]

A single late first seems pretty cheap to get out of 5 more years of Brown.

 

[JAK]

Can you actually make a trade for nothing though?

 

[Ezpz]

This is a team that's going to end up with a bunch of second liners and #3/4 dmen because of NMCs/teams having too much talent. Brown will be one of the "lesser" forwards they could end up with.

They'll end up with guys like Silfverberg, Soderberg, Jurco/Abdelkader/Sheahan, Pouliot/Maroon/Kassian, basically their choice of the Minnesota Wild's roster, possibly Plekanec from the Habs, any of Nashville's non top-4 forwards, decent forward/Klein from the Rags, something good from the Pens, good anything from Tampa, Armia/Perreault from the Jets if LV get a goalie elsewhere.

Anyways no room for Dustin Brown even on a "weak" LV top 6. No ones going to pick up a 6 mil third liner for a first.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

This is a team that's going to end up with a bunch of second liners and #3/4 dmen because of NMCs/teams having too much talent. Brown will be one of the "lesser" forwards they could end up with.

They'll end up with guys like Silfverberg, Soderberg, Jurco/Abdelkader/Sheahan, Pouliot/Maroon/Kassian, basically their choice of the Minnesota Wild's roster, possibly Plekanec from the Habs, any of Nashville's non top-4 forwards, decent forward/Klein from the Rags, something good from the Pens, good anything from Tampa, Armia/Perreault from the Jets if LV get a goalie elsewhere.

Anyways no room for Dustin Brown even on a "weak" LV top 6. No ones going to pick up a 6 mil third liner for a first.

Yea right

 

[Ezpz]

Yea right

Barring a change before draft time the Ducks need to protect 4 dmen and Rakell is more likely to be the fourth forward protected than Silfverberg. Even if Bieksa waives Anaheim are going to lose a good player. There's only 3-4 teams in the league that can take Fowler in a trade and not have it affect them in the expansion draft. Teams will offer rather crappy packages because of this.

 

[Halla]

Yea right

if not silverfberg, fowler/manson/despres. anaheim cant trade everyone to avoid losing a good player. my money is on josh manson, and even thats after bieksa is bought out

 

[Taytro]

LA pays Vegas a 1st rounder not only to protect the rest of the roster in the draft, but also to unload Brown's contract.

Vegas adds a 1st to their rebuild and Brown can become the captain. He may also be one of the best players, ability-wise that Vegas might be able to draft and he's a much better player than Trevor Lewis, the next best player projected to be available.

If Vegas follows through with picking off every young talent and best unprotected defenseman in order to build up assets, then Brown's cap hit won't be very bad unlike how it is for a cap team like LA.

I think Vegas, if they play their cards right, can squeeze multiple firsts from this expansion draft from cap dumping teams like LA and dman-hungry teams like just about every team.

You mean their build... Just build... They're an expansion team, they're not redoing anything.

You're completely not considering that vegas won't be "picking off every young talent and best unprotected defenseman" ... They're going to be getting bad contracts, older players, and other organizations failed experiments. A lot of young players and bargain contracts aren't eligible or will be protected. Contracts is going to be a huge issue for LV because that's mostly what will be made available.

 

[Halla]

You mean their build... Just build... They're an expansion team, they're not redoing anything.

You're completely not considering that vegas won't be "picking off every young talent and best unprotected defenseman" ... They're going to be getting bad contracts, older players, and other organizations failed experiments. A lot of young players and bargain contracts aren't eligible or will be protected. Contracts is going to be a huge issue for LV because that's mostly what will be made available.

most mocks have vegas getting a pretty decent team. they wont be picking bad contracts unless they get incentive to do so. Vegas won't have to worry too mich about the cap floor after getting a few guys like jack johnson, marc methot, semyeon varlamov etc and then dipping into UFA

 

[HanSolo]

Yeah Vegas is gonna need a little more than that.

 

[Balthazar]

First, Anaheim will expose Silverfberg and Vegas is going to draft him whether Ducks fans like it or not.

Second, taking on arguably one of the worst contract in the league would not be a great start for a new franchise would it? The team is new but the McPhee isn't. Brown and his entire cap hit will remain with the Kings for the next 5 years.

 

[Paradise*]

I doubt a mid/late 1st gets Vegas to take that horrendous contract. Maybe salary retention on top gets them to bite.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Anaheim is not exposing Silfverberg, I guarantee it.

 

[Paradise*]

Anaheim is not exposing Silfverberg, I guarantee it.

Rackell then?

 

[Vipers31]

First, Anaheim will expose Silverfberg and Vegas is going to draft him whether Ducks fans like it or not.

That's a lot of unwarranted certainty.

Rackell then?

Obviously not. Best bet would still be Ducks going 7-3-1, with Bieksa waiving/bought out and one of Fowler/Vatanen being traded.

 

[Mike Jones]

You mean their build... Just build... They're an expansion team, they're not redoing anything.

Thank you. I know it's a nitpick but it's impossible to rebuild something that has never been built in the first place.

 

[damacles1156]

I think the Kings are in a no win situation with Brown. He makes too much, and you have to replace him, with probably retaining salary, also giving up a pick.

The Kings should just keep him, he is simply an overpaid bottom six player at this point. He is still somewhat productive, he is not Mike Richards territory.

Brown with Dowd, is on pace for about 40 points this season, if he keeps it up.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Vegas isn't going to take your albatross contract in exchange for only a 1st round pick. Why would they do that?

 

[Mike Jones]

Can you actually make a trade for nothing though?

Sure - Teams do it all the time.

The trade would probably look like:

2017 1st in exchange for future considerations (Being the selection of Dustin Brown in the expansion draft).

Instead of futures Vegas could send a couple of token 7th round picks or something like that. A lot depends on how fussy the league wants to be but I can't see them denying the new team an extra first round pick and a veteran forward.

 

[varano]

He has been slightly more productive this year.

 

[varano]

Vegas isn't going to take your albatross contract in exchange for only a 1st round pick. Why would they do that?

You know, if it was a high first, why wouldn't you? They could always adjust the rest of their expansion to pick players that are not heavy cap hits to accommodate for Browns.

If we're talking about a late first, Doesn't make much sense.

 

[Poochie_D]

I could see a similar trade happening with LV. Maybe not Brown specifically but yeah I see it.