Kucherov has recently joined the career 100 point pace club
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He'd like to thank God, his family, his coaches and teammates, and empty nets everywhere
Oh yeah without those empty nets he’d be at a career 98 point pace
He has an argument for top 3 Russian player of all time.
Just an insanely elite offensive talent.
Just an insanely elite offensive talent.
Unparalleled vision on the ice, coupled with a hockey IQ that seems to border on precognition, is what sets him apart.
Kucherov is the ultimate big game player
Kucherov is the ultimate big game player
He probably has the highest Hockey IQ since Crosby along with being arguably the best passer in league. I’m glad guys like him exist to show that you can keep up with McDavid & MacKinnon without using speed.
I've rarely seen a forward who looks as slick and smooth as Kucherov does, in such a deliberate way. Whereas someone like Draisaitl likes to stop the play and then start it again at his pace, and McDavid and MacKinnon exist to terrorize defenders with super high-speed plays, Kucherov is like water in the Kung Fu / yin-yang sense --- he just goes with the flow and makes slow and slick plays regardless of the pace going on around him.
Mario Lemieux sometimes looked like that, and of course all the great players have the ability to "slow down" the pace of the game to their own preferred speed. But, I dunno, Kucherov seems to make the most soft and deliberate plays of any major forward, and yet he makes it work. A lot of this is down to super-high hockey IQ, of course.
Kucherov and Elias Pettersson (when he isn't sucking) are the players that remind me the most of Wayne Gretzky.
(And yeah, the empty-net thing is starting to get weird. Last year, he racked up the EN goals, and this year it's assists. All fair game, I guess.)
Mario Lemieux sometimes looked like that, and of course all the great players have the ability to "slow down" the pace of the game to their own preferred speed. But, I dunno, Kucherov seems to make the most soft and deliberate plays of any major forward, and yet he makes it work. A lot of this is down to super-high hockey IQ, of course.
Kucherov and Elias Pettersson (when he isn't sucking) are the players that remind me the most of Wayne Gretzky.
(And yeah, the empty-net thing is starting to get weird. Last year, he racked up the EN goals, and this year it's assists. All fair game, I guess.)
I think there may be a 700 game minimum here? Or perhaps you can’t round up as Kaprizov’s stats over 82 games is 99.8
On another hand it is unfair to compare careers of players who started playing at 18 years old to one who started playing at 20 years old.
For example, if you remove Draisaitl 18 years old season, I think that he has a career number of 102 P/82 games. And his number goes up even more if we start at 20.
Yes, but the person noting 100 for Kaprizov was 100pts per 82 games for career as well....rounded up from 99.8....but as someone noted, there is a game limit as well (500).
Averaging 100pts over 82 games is incredibly hard over a long career. Currently there are only 6 players in history, having played over 1,000 games to do that. Crosby is the only one from that list of 6 that didn't play in the 70/80s. It's also going to be tough for him to stay on the list. If he only plays out his contract, 2 years after this, he'd have to finish this year with another 40pts...so finish with 88 and then average 84pts per season in the next 2. That's possible, but I'd suggest unlikely at this point and then if he keeps playing beyond that, super unlikely he maintains.
McDavid will join that list at some point, but I have a hard time getting confident someone else will be able to get through a long career and still be on that list...for now.
That's true.....I don't understand the earlier comment that it is somehow more impressive for him since he started slower (at an older age as well). Isn't it more impressive that Crosby did it from day 1, at a younger age and during lower scoring years?
Kucherov is currently averaging 36-64-100 per 82.
During his years with Edmonton, Gretzky averaged 35-65-100 per FORTY-two.
I don't think anybody is seriously comparing him to Gretzky, I just think that's fun.
People are always trying to stealthily knock this guy down a few spots here and there in terms of how guys rank but all he ever does is deliver.
Idk I think it's beyond awesome a second round pick who had to work his way in and then up the lineup has become one of the greatest players of the generation. Dude just constantly worked and improved.
So Leafs fans don't want him anymore? No longer thinking manifest destiny will bring him to the Leafs like every other player in world dreams of?
120 point pace the last 7/8 years. Who knows where his career production would be had he gotten the red carpet top three pick golden boy prospect treatment right off the bat.
Idk maybe he needed to develop. But especially for forwards, it is incredibly rare for such high end offensive talents to not be identified early and picked highly in the draft.
Yeah tough to say but he did always make good use of opportunity and Tampa just had some established players that it wouldn’t be an open tryout for an unproven rookie.
Kucherov definitely went under the radar coming up through the system. Nobody had heard of the guy before he lit up the IIHF U18s and I would reckon he wasn’t even a big deal in Russian circles until he had a big MHL year in the season that lead up to that.
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