Kucherov has 1 goal in his last three playofff appearances.

Interesting how elite players like Kucherov and MacKinnon still get touted as "proven winners" or whatever even though they struggle to make much noise at all once the salary cap catches up with their teams.
 
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Interesting how elite players like Kucherov and MacKinnon still get touted as "proven winners" or whatever even though they struggle to make much noise at all once the salary cap catches up with their teams.
Huh? Kuch just won b2b art ross trophies and Mackinnon just won the Hart last year.

They've also both won Stanley Cups Kuch(2) Mack(1), so yes. I would say they are proven winners.
Unlike say, a McDavid for example.
 
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Interesting how elite players like Kucherov and MacKinnon still get touted as "proven winners" or whatever even though they struggle to make much noise at all once the salary cap catches up with their teams.
Fr, they're still PPG players which does say something, but any real authentic superstar player should be able to produce with any scenario facing them. I really don't give 2 f***s about the fans of said teams crying about their player being neutralized or the opponent being a tough matchup.

Kuch did have an injury plaguing him, which does play a factor. But.......Kuch arguably has 2 more playoff seasons to slightly prove himself more before people start taking closer looks at his playoff resume IMO.
 
So a quick perusal of the all time leaders show Kucherov as 21st in the history of the game in playoff pts with 171 pts in 152 games. I’m not always the biggest fan of the guy, but that shit speaks for itself.

All of Mcdavid, Mackinnon and Draisitl are working their way up the chart, they’re lower but the Edm guys are climbing quick with these deep runs. Mcdavid is in the top 50 and the games played in his case is really standing out. He has 134 in 84 gp. If he has another handful of games this year, then a deep run next year he’ll be in the same range for pts. These four are all standouts and have unquestionable playoff production, making this thread pretty far off base.
 
Interesting how elite players like Kucherov and MacKinnon still get touted as "proven winners" or whatever even though they struggle to make much noise at all once the salary cap catches up with their teams.
For real. A couple bums they are.
 
Interesting how elite players like Kucherov and MacKinnon still get touted as "proven winners" or whatever even though they struggle to make much noise at all once the salary cap catches up with their teams.
There are only two players with back to back 30 point play off runs Gretzky and Kucherov. There are only three players with 40 goals and 100 assist in nhl history Gretzky, Lemieux, and Kucherov. Kucherov is a proven winner capable of carrying his team to back to back cups and leading the league in scoring numerous times. Who else has a better resume other than the great one? Can you list any specific player in the league with numerous art ross trophies, back to back 30 point playoff runs, is over a point per game playoff performer, and carried their team to back to back cups? I shall wait your intelligent reply with statistics and facts to back up your claim. Cups are won with depth and physicality. The lightning have next to nothing these days because JBB gets signing undersized and overaged players.
 
A cup is a cup but Tampa Fans overly cocky about 2 COVID cups from shortened/modified years. Your team has done nothing before or since. Yes I am a Leaf fan but doesn't change facts.
Wow............you may have lost your mind with envy.
I am no Tampa or Kuch supporter, bur seriously, for 5-6 years TB has been one of the best teams in the league. 2 Cups........is an amazing feat. There are teams who have never won a Cup.........and there are teams heading towards 60 years since their last Cup.

You have to give them their due........
 

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