Sportsnet: Kris Versteeg says "Toronto needs to trade for a third line Center" (Said it 3 times!)

[dubplatepressure]

Is Kerfoot that versatile though? He's fast and that's about it. Carter has a ring or two, has size, and has more offense to his game. I haven't checked but he used to be a pretty good penalty killer too.

Yeah he is. And he's producing more 5v5 than Carter this season while playing 2 minutes less a game. I won't comment on +/-. I get that Carter has the rings, but we have other guys with them too. I'd rather go after someone else.

 

[cannucky]

He was traded for cap purposes and to move from a position of strength to pickup a d man, the position of weakness. Obviously never worked that well, but the logic made sense

He was making 4.5 with 3 years left , cap reasons my hairy white behind . We sent him with ELC Rosen for Barrie @5.5 and Kerplunk @ 3.5 so we not only lost the skill side of the deal we lost about 3 million on the money side .,and now we are left with just Kerplunk . Cap reasons riiiight can I interest you in some land in the Florida Keys ?

 

[Isaac Nootin]

He was making 4.5 with 3 years left , cap reasons my hairy white behind . We sent him with ELC Rosen for Barrie @5.5 and Kerplunk @ 3.5 so we not only lost the skill side of the deal we lost about 3 million on the money side .,and now we are left with just Kerplunk . Cap reasons riiiight can I interest you in some land in the Florida Keys ?

Barrie was not at 5.5 considering Colorado retained 50%

 

[leaffaninvancouver]

He was making 4.5 with 3 years left , cap reasons my hairy white behind . We sent him with ELC Rosen for Barrie @5.5 and Kerplunk @ 3.5 so we not only lost the skill side of the deal we lost about 3 million on the money side .,and now we are left with just Kerplunk . Cap reasons riiiight can I interest you in some land in the Florida Keys ?

How do we afford Brodie if Kadri is signed?

 

[Warden of the North]

Kadri says Hi.

Yes, but he was dumb and got himself traded.

Had he not been such a moron he'd still be here

 

[All Mod Cons]

I don't recall anyone saying that but good try

Zeke, Deke, Squeak and Off Peak.

The usual bunch.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Yeah he is. And he's producing more 5v5 than Carter this season while playing 2 minutes less a game. I won't comment on +/-. I get that Carter has the rings, but we have other guys with them too. I'd rather go after someone else.

I'd be interested to see Carter in the same position as Kerfoot, on the third line playing against 3rd pairing dmen. Theres a lot less depth in LA.

 

[stopclickbait]

Yes, but he was dumb and got himself traded.

Had he not been such a moron he'd still be here

Well thankfully Kerfoot hasn't done his Kadri impression yet.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I'd be interested to see Carter in the same position as Kerfoot, on the third line playing against 3rd pairing dmen. Theres a lot less depth in LA.

But why not go after a top6 LW with some sandpaper instead? Don't we need that (much) more? Or even an upgrade on Dermott? A backup for Campbell? I cannot see how 3C is our problem spot right now

 

[Mr Hockey]

Zeke, Deke, Squeak and Off Peak.

The usual bunch.

there are some really Pro-Dubas fans here that will back anything Dubas has done, they even claimed sparks was good up until the very end

 

[Man Bear Pig]

But why not go after a top6 LW with some sandpaper instead? Don't we need that (much) more? Or even an upgrade on Dermott? A backup for Campbell? I cannot see how 3C is our problem spot right now

He plays mostly wing now as far as I know. Guys like Engvall need to be pushed down to the 4th line.

 

[Mr Hockey]

But why not go after a top6 LW with some sandpaper instead? Don't we need that (much) more? Or even an upgrade on Dermott? A backup for Campbell? I cannot see how 3C is our problem spot right now

a backup for Campbell?

 

[egd27]

It’s my opinion that in order to win a cup, the third line needs to win a series that’s tight, and the starting goaltender needs to steal a game a series. The top 2 lines are good, but they won last night because of depth scoring.

I think that's a fair comment. That's one reason to be concerned that the Top 4 are using so much of the cap.

 

[ULF_55]

maybe some confusion about team building.
players with less than 2 years experience aren't expected to be finished products.

Veteran versteeg was a huge flop in Toronto and time hasn't made him any better.

 

[Leaf Fans]

there are some really Pro-Dubas fans here that will back anything Dubas has done, they even claimed sparks was good up until the very end

I guess there are some that do that, but very few.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Who cares what Versteeg or the media say? They are always trying to socially engineer bad trades for us. Is this team a mediocre center away from a cup? No! Put Thornton or Spezza in. Screw Granlund.

 

[notbias]

there are some really Pro-Dubas fans here that will back anything Dubas has done, they even claimed sparks was good up until the very end

I will defend Dubas on Sparks, he made the right decision at the time on who to keep, it just turned out to be the wrong decision in hindsight. Much like the Kadri trade, except that trade ended up righting itself since we got Brodie in free agency and wouldn't have been able to with Kadri's extra million against the cap.

 

[ottomaddox]

I didn't even know the guy was an analyst.

Didn't come away overly impressed TBH. Solid but unspectacular.

As a player?

 

[Budz22]

I'm assuming you are asking about Kadri? He was moved as a result of running out of chances with management. He had run in's with nearly every coach, he had internal suspensions, and Shanahan personally called him out for a lack of maturity. This was even before the playoff suspensions. He created a situation where he had to be moved. We got the best price we could, for a publicly known damaged asset. People seem to ignore this on a regular basis though.

No Versteeg.

 

[ChuckWoods]

For anyone questioning his information or suggestions, they may want to reconsider.

Very connected and well respected among many teams and circles within the league, and would imagine he gets a lot passed his way.

This is a guy I personally would listen to over any insider except about about two or three.

Of course everyone has hot takes and personal opinions on needs, but I wouldn't be sleeping on any of his suggestions.

 

[ottomaddox]

For anyone questioning his information or suggestions, they may want to reconsider.

Very connected and well respected among many teams and circles within the league, and would imagine he gets a lot passed his way.

This is a guy I personally would listen to over any insider except about about two or three.

Of course everyone has hot takes and personal opinions on needs, but I wouldn't be sleeping on any of his suggestions.

Hi5

 

[ottomaddox]

Yes.

It's Kris versteeg.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

i'd focus on a top 4 D like David Savard people are going to disagree but if you do you aren't looking at it the right way, the reality of the situation is this.

Rielly goes down You're f***ed

Muzzin goes down You're f***ed that's been proven.

Brodie goes down You're f***ed.

Holl goes down You're a little less f***ed but you probably lose the next round

Ekholm, Savard, Hammer in Arizona, Ryan Murray getting one of these guys protect against that

 

[TheScandal89]

I agree with him, it'll help overall scoring depth and most importantly pk. Someone like McCann comes to mind

I know everyone wants to say Kadri including me, but Imagine Verhaghe on this team now

 

[PromisedLand]

We do not have cap space to make any "significant" move. Dubas has seen to that.

With Keefe refusing to swap marner and nylander to spread out offense and get JT going

just hope JT-Nylander duo all of a sudden turn into solid offensive threat even strength and by that I mean getting goals NOT corsi or high danger BS