Value of: Kreider to the Bruins

[gump116]

Kreider has a NMC but would likely waive for the Bruins. 6 years left after this at 6.5m. Bruins have long needed a second line left wing and Kreider would fit that team really well there and is a great net front presence on the power play. Would almost fit under the cap, essentially the Bruins would have to send back any contract to make it work. Question of value. From rangers perspective would just take back an expiring contract. Would either team have to add? Would rangers need to retain?

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[MisterT]

What exactly are the Bruins giving up here?

 

[SML2]

Nobody makes trades for guys with 6 years left on their deal and even fewer are going to retain salary on that trade. Contenders make short term moves that give them flexibility. This is the opposite of that and because of that there is no deal here.

 

[bernmeister]

Kreider has a NMC but would likely waive for the Bruins. 6 years left after this at 6.5m. Bruins have long needed a second line left wing and Kreider would fit that team really well there and is a great net front presence on the power play. Would almost fit under the cap, essentially the Bruins would have to send back any contract to make it work. Question of value. From rangers perspective would just take back an expiring contract. Would either team have to add? Would rangers need to retain?

He will not waive.
NYR do not wish to trade at this point barring signif profit.
Give KK and VK a whole season + min to discover their beast factor at NHL level before even thinking about moving the team leader in that dept, along w/speed.

IF IF IF
he were to waive, while the return would not be massive overpay, it would be substantial.

We are better off focusing on if Trouba, not Kreider, can be motivated to waive so we can send him to a FL team along most of his 8 per cap hit.
We need to do that WAY more than moving Kreider and his 6.5

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Is it me or did OP basically say Give me a Free Krieder

 

[gump116]

Is it me or did OP basically say Give me a Free Krieder

I was more thinking about it from a Rangers perspective and wondering if we’d have to add to get out of that contract. Kreider is a good player but his age, contract and position don’t fit very well in the Rangers plans with all of the teams other wingers. Bruins are really the only reasonable suitor considering his NMC, so was curious if there’d be fit from their end.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

He fits a need in Boston for sure (big, fast top 6 winger).

 

[Montecristo]

What exactly are the Bruins giving up here?

some good stuff i assume

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

He will not waive.
NYR do not wish to trade at this point barring signif profit.
Give KK and VK a whole season + min to discover their beast factor at NHL level before even thinking about moving the team leader in that dept, along w/speed.

IF IF IF
he were to waive, while the return would not be massive overpay, it would be substantial.

We are better off focusing on if Trouba, not Kreider, can be motivated to waive so we can send him to a FL team along most of his 8 per cap hit.
We need to do that WAY more than moving Kreider and his 6.5

Zero chance of Trouba waiving his NMC, Tampa can't afford him long term. And he's not going to Florida he chose the Rangers for a reason since his wife is going to be a Dr in New York City.

 

[bl02]

He would look great in Bruins jersey

 

[bernmeister]

Zero chance of Trouba waiving his NMC, Tampa can't afford him long term. And he's not going to Florida he chose the Rangers for a reason since his wife is going to be a Dr in New York City.

small not zero.
1. key item is his wife, and dr's job can usually be arranged to alt location. Not nec easy to arrange, may or may not require a lot of string pulling but doable potentially for corp with huge $ resources,

2. FL is tax free state, which helps. If she moves he and he relocates, that is taxable state income taxes.

3 I am not so sure Lightening can't find room, but could also be Panthers.

4 In 3 years he can be dealt anyway, so a FL location now is better than wherever he might otherwise get sent in 3 yrs.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I was more thinking about it from a Rangers perspective and wondering if we’d have to add to get out of that contract. Kreider is a good player but his age, contract and position don’t fit very well in the Rangers plans with all of the teams other wingers. Bruins are really the only reasonable suitor considering his NMC, so was curious if there’d be fit from their end.

Call us in 4 yrs

 

[Hookslide]

Kreider has a NMC but would likely waive for the Bruins. 6 years left after this at 6.5m. Bruins have long needed a second line left wing and Kreider would fit that team really well there and is a great net front presence on the power play. Would almost fit under the cap, essentially the Bruins would have to send back any contract to make it work. Question of value. From rangers perspective would just take back an expiring contract. Would either team have to add? Would rangers need to retain?

They have needed a second line right wing forever...........

 

[eco's bones]

Kreider’s been slumping and he’s always been inconsistent. Lately (like last night) he’s often been awful. I don’t really see a deal out there for him just because of his contract. Both Mika and him have not been carrying enough weight.

As for Trouba the Rangers are not at all ready to move on from him. He’s tutored K’Andre all year long and if the team ever decided to name a captain my money would be on him.

At most any deals involving the Rangers today will be minor and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made none.

 

[eco's bones]

small not zero.
1. key item is his wife, and dr's job can usually be arranged to alt location. Not nec easy to arrange, may or may not require a lot of string pulling but doable potentially for corp with huge $ resources,

2. FL is tax free state, which helps. If she moves he and he relocates, that is taxable state income taxes.

3 I am not so sure Lightening can't find room, but could also be Panthers.

4 In 3 years he can be dealt anyway, so a FL location now is better than wherever he might otherwise get sent in 3 yrs.

What if she’s very happy where she is doing what she’s doing?

 

[Kreider Typical]

They have needed a second line right wing forever...........

He's a lw

 

[NYRKing]

He would be a great fit in Boston. Obviously fits the style but the contract is an issue.

 

[cwede]

NYR, and no team (see Eichel/Sabres) is gonna retain on a long-term deal for a valuable player.
In flat Cap era, that would ripple for way too long

which would make the price to Bruins likely too high,
since they would have to send back salary guys who they value,

but for NYR that part of return is secondary,
its the kids like a Studnika that would convince NYR to do deal

despite what posters here think,
NYR chose carefully when they signed deals like Kreider's and Trouba's,
and will not be punishing themselves to move on

 

[smoneil]

What if she’s very happy where she is doing what she’s doing?

If she was finishing up med school when we signed Trouba, then she's doing her residency now. Those aren't permanent jobs. They last for 3-8 years depending on medical specialty. That means that, for the next year or two (minimum--if she's a surgical resident, she'll be in that position through Trouba's contract), Trouba is going nowhere. After that? It depends on where they want to be. I know they both live in Ft. Lauderdale and own a house there (right down the road from where the Panthers play). IF there's a Trouba move to be made, my guess is it will be there, but not for a few years yet.

 

[Hookslide]

He's a lw

I know that. That is why I wrote that ,they need a a RW , some one else posted they have needed a LW for ever........

 

[bernmeister]

What if she’s very happy where she is doing what she’s doing?

My understanding is she is already in FL.
The projection is she may want to come to NYC for medical career.

That could be specific to here.
Or it could specific to a precise field of study or opportunity.
If it is the latter, it may be possible to replicate the position in FL.

But you're right, if she wants to come here, regardless of comparable position or opportunity being created if nec in fL, if that is the case once she is qualified to practice, that would make the JT to FL moot.

 

[eco's bones]

If she was finishing up med school when we signed Trouba, then she's doing her residency now. Those aren't permanent jobs. They last for 3-8 years depending on medical specialty. That means that, for the next year or two (minimum--if she's a surgical resident, she'll be in that position through Trouba's contract), Trouba is going nowhere. After that? It depends on where they want to be. I know they both live in Ft. Lauderdale and own a house there (right down the road from where the Panthers play). IF there's a Trouba move to be made, my guess is it will be there, but not for a few years yet.

Personally right now I’d stay far away from certain states and Texas and Florida are on the list. I’ve had my vaccines but places that don’t take the pandemic seriously enough I’d steer clear of. I want this over and until some get their shit together it won’t be.

 

[The don godfather]

Bruins just got hall probably the biggest fish in the sea and will sign him . Where can they fit kreids?

 

[bernmeister]

Bruins just got hall probably the biggest fish in the sea and will sign him . Where can they fit kreids?

they can't and he's not available

 

[The don godfather]

they can't and he's not available

Hall is what the doctor ordered for the Bruins they good.