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Bullshit GI call but team looked like dogshit tonight.
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What might help next game is playing with the lead we seem to be playing from behind an awful lot lately. Too much time spent chasing the game
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Somehow methinks a lot of you would be quite upset if that goal was scored against us and counted.
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My issue with that explanation is that Robinson does not initiate contact with Daccord. Daccord initiates contact with Robinson outside the top of his crease. If Robinson was in the crease then no goal regardless of who initiates but outside the blue if the goalie initiates then tough luck buddy, goal should stand.
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Well, someone tell them giving up a breakaway 19 seconds into the game is not how to gain a lead.
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I'm watching the gif over and over Daccord doesn't move a ton whereas Robinson backs in and makes a rather large horizontal move that sweeps across and clips Daccord. I think he has more to do with the contact for sure but that's just how I see it.
Daccord, mostly top middle of the crease before and during contact, Robinson a little over the halfway point across the crease and ends up moving the whole rest of the way across as he slides by and the contact happens. I think at best you can say they both had a part but Robinson caused more.
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Honestly, it might be a leadership issue. The guys that normally step up and lead, either vocally or by example, have been some of the worst offenders during this slump.
Aho is non-threatening, Slavin is suddenly a mess defensively, Staal is Staal, even Martinook looks beat down
Aho is non-threatening, Slavin is suddenly a mess defensively, Staal is Staal, even Martinook looks beat down
Borsig
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IT HAS BEEN. That's Part of Our frustration.. But Regardless We lost it's over Next..
HisIceness
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Seems to be a yearly issue with this team but we’ve got 2-3 guys who are bottom 6 forwards trying to play in a top 6 role. Drury Roslovic Robinson these are all guys who are bottom 6 players. Robinson and Roslovic have been great so far im not trying to discredit what they’ve done offensively but they aren’t top 6 forwards and neither is Drury
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Well, it may not have been a challenge but we had the benefit of a very odd call in the Ottawa game that cost them a goal. I said it then, and it remains the same. Good teams overcome that more often than not. Tonight, we were not a good team and immediately shit the bed with the game still tied.
Been beating this drum for years. Drury is no better than a 4th line centre. He would be (and has been) great in that role, but Rod loves him so here we are.
Another thing. KK, Jarvy and Necas are best friends off the ice. You don’t think that would translate into cohesion on the ice?
Svechnikov-Aho-Roslovic
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Martinook-Staal-Carrier
Robinson-Drury-Blake
It’s not rocket science Rod.
As have I there’s too many guys slotted above where they should be. I like Drury but I don’t like him as the second line centre. He’s the perfect third or 4th line centre on a good team.
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I agree on Drury, but you are blinded by your view of KK. He's a 4th liner as well. That's the problem. We have 2 guys, Drury and KK that are worse than our 3C, Staal.
Totally agreed dude. But he’s the best we have right now for that 2nd line role. I’m an ideal world he would be perfect playing Staals role and 3rd line minutes. But won’t matter cause Rod doesn’t trust him and let him learn or work through bad games. Ideal world in future after Staal is done is:
Aho line 1
??? Line 2
KK line 3
Drury line 4
But Rod has a man crush on Staal and Drury so he will play them over slotted.
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And our 1C has been absent all year so far
Can’t blame Rod for treating the two as interchangeable. That’s what the results show. Per NST, since 22-23, 54.29 GF% for Drury + Necas and 53.77 for Kotkaniemi + Necas. While the latter pair has scored more, they’ve given up more.
Kotkaniemi has a lot of growing to do to be a replacement for Staal. I’d pump the breaks on that justification for his future value to the club.
Kotkaniemi has a lot of growing to do to be a replacement for Staal. I’d pump the breaks on that justification for his future value to the club.
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Well then at a certain point trade his ass and go out and overpay another team for a legit 2C because we can't keep doing this song and dance with trying to play replacement level players as our 2nd line center. Drury is a better fit on the 4th line and if KK is a stretch for 3C when Jordo retires (and let's be honest the way he's constantly in the RBA doghouse they're very little chance of him ever inheriting that role anyway) then he has absolutely no value to us and is better used in a trade than on the roster.
It's shit or get off the pot time for him, and it's becoming clear it's all gas no shit at this point.
Not from a leadership role of course. But you for real don’t think KK can provide Staals production? 3rd line role with minimal offence, play PK and take face offs? I love what Jordo has meant for the team, but maybe we value him too highly around here. Great guy and leader like I said, but he’s a shell of his former self.
Staal is one of the best defensive forwards of his generation. Kotkaniemi is not close and is unlikely to ever be.
You make a good point. Your lineup has a flaw though as Svetch and Aho don’t play well together and JR seems to have issues with his linemates too. There is no cohesion on that line….they float from shift to shift.
I’ve said this before but I’m getting Bunting vibes with JR and he should be moved. KK may be best buds with Jarvis and Necas but his play has gone downhill again. Improve or move him too.
