Kraken 2025-26 Offseason (different but the same??)

Actually, the 24-25 Kraken won more games than the 23-24 Kraken. They have 35 this year as opposed to 34 last year. The difference in points lies with the loser point.

That said, I don't think the Kraken were a better team this year, BUT... I do think it is interesting how much better they played after the TDL. They were a pretty damn good team once they off-loaded a few players.

9-7-2 since the trade deadline. Last year they were an abysmal 6-13-2. They could have made the playoffs last year with a decent post deadline showing, but shat the bed.
Sorry about the snafu with the wins. I did mean points and do realize the loser points are the big reason why we are worse in points than last season.

I was also thinking about what you just said: they have played really well since the trade deadline. I'm curious what led to that change because I didn't think any of the players who left were a problem for this team.

My expectation for this season was pretty low: just be better than last season. Thought with Montour and Stephenson it would be easily doable. The team showed me how much I know.
 
My expectation for this season was pretty low: just be better than last season. Thought with Montour and Stephenson it would be easily doable. The team showed me how much I know.
Thing about Montour is it seems he needed a better team around him to look good unleashing his strengths. He was bad in Buffalo and he's been just okay here. Stephenson the biggest disappointment but that one's on the GM. Everybody said this was an overpay. It was worse than expected but not really a shock.

The problem is the cap is not great now and so we have to hope for the kids to develop. It's a slow process that way and we are stuck with it.
 
Everyone but apparently Francis knew Stephenson was not a day 1 target. Watching 20 minutes of his game film from last season should have made that clear. For a team that constantly touts its video coaches and analytics section, it’s honestly kind of inexcusable.
 


Honestly this is a little bit terrifying. This team's ownership group doesn't seem to get it.

Well, the team clearly needs change, which they seem to recognize (not saying much there), but them admitting it is a positive sign. What remains to be seen is whether they can identify the necessary changes and make the right decisions. I’m playing devil's advocate here, but a busy offseason could involve changes in coaching, management, and the roster. As fans, all we can do is watch and hope they know how to do their jobs better than we think we can. LOL.
 
Well, the team clearly needs change, which they seem to recognize (not saying much there), but them admitting it is a positive sign. What remains to be seen is whether they can identify the necessary changes and make the right decisions. I’m playing devil's advocate here, but a busy offseason could involve changes in coaching, management, and the roster. As fans, all we can do is watch and hope they know how to do their jobs better than we think we can. LOL.

Frankly, I'm looking forward to some action. If a team isn't good, nor on the cusp of good, there needs to be changes made. This season was a testament to additions not necessarily being enough, there has to be some movement in all directions to correct anything. I'd really like to see something really unexpected. Some very good teams have made huge sacrifices to either become good or stay good and they don't end up looking like the current Sharks after a couple of years.
 


Honestly this is a little bit terrifying. This team's ownership group doesn't seem to get it.


They must view the team's "window" differently than I do. In my mind, building through the draft is the key and that means most of the current vets don't fit the window. When that tipping point is reached, you go after a couple of smart FA additions who fit well, and maybe that expensive game-changer once your future is secured by the drafted talent.

But if this ownership group is all revved up to make the big splash quickly, before the Return of the Sonics or whatever I can picture them doing a lot of short-sighted harm to this team's long term possibilities.
 
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So, some thoughts on every player we saw this season.

McCann - Despite him having a rough middle section of the season, McCann again scored 60 points and I thought had an overall positive season. He has yet to show prolonged slumps, and remains a predictable contibutor.

Schwartz - Turns out Schwartz is still capable of staying healthy for an entire season, and he can score over 25 goals! I wasn't expecting either to happen, so that's great. Boosts his trade value and shows that keeping him around isn't a terrible idea.

Kakko - Kakko turned out to be a pretty good addition even though he wasn't as impactful late in the season. He had fewer games in Seattle but still managed to play better and produce more than he did for New York.

Wright - He looked very good in his first full season. He's got a future. I don't think he necessarily needs stars on his line, just minutes. 19 goals, 25 assists with the lack of minutes he had all season is fantastic. Minute for minute might be our best points producer (I'm not doing the math)

Nyman - He looks NHL ready. They burned a year of his contract, but oh well... it was worth it to see what he had and boost his confidence.

Beniers - Despite feeling like it wasn't enough, did end up scoring 20 goals. It feels very much like the Kraken don't have the right kind of player to really compliment Beniers' style. He's a good player, but there is definitely something more we need to see.

Daccord - Joey! He had a handful of very bad games, meaning he's not Hellebuyck. He did however put together a true over .500 season, and had a stat line we could only have dreamed of over the last 3 seasons. 27-23-5, 2.75, .906. That right there is an NHL starting netminder! Thank goodness we have one!

Oleksiak - His first 2/3 of the season was frustrating to watch. It was like the defensive version of Burakovsky (we'll get to him). He got better late in the season, as did everybody else, and I'm hoping that leads to value in trading him.

Larsson - His first half of the season wasn't good. He looked very out of his element for half the season. However, he REALLY turned it around and played a hell of a second half of the season defensively. It felt like as soon as we all started complaining about his play that it turned around. HI LARS, great job in the second half, bud!

Evans - Ok. This one is tough. He had an OK season, but I don't think he met my personal expectations. He's clearly and NHL player and will likely play a lot of NHL games, but I think this season showed his ceiling is probably on the 3rd pair if things don't improve quite a bit. He was a liability more often than I'd have liked. He's young and has time, and I'm rooting for him, but this season didn't boost my confidence.

Cups - Well, 51 points is nothing to sneeze at and he won faceoffs. Advanced stats HATE the guy, and I can see SOME of those things with the eye test, but I don't think he was nearly as bad as those advance stats show. He almost never shoots, which is frustrating, but he does pass pretty well. Nobody liked the contract, and frankly, despite my not entirely negative review of his season, I too don't like it still, but 51 points was second highest on the team... that's a lot we'd have to make up for from somebody else.

Montour - Montour is a sieve defensively, but produces offensively and set a record of goals by a Kraken defenseman in a season, so there is that. Paired with Oleksiak, it was like an open door for opposing teams to get into our defensive zone and get easy shots off. I do think he's a good player and his contract will remain pretty decent for at least 4 more years if he stays healthy, but he's going to need a much more complimentary partner.

Dunn - Not a great season, but there was the injury and he still managed to do pretty well in his limited time. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad and his last 20 games were a big step up, much like Larsson.

Burakovsky - If he hadn't finished the season on a high note, it would have gone down as one of the worst single seasons for a player in Kraken history, but he finished strong and that's about it. I hope he gets back to his old ways

Tolvanen - Probably one of the only players who didn't really shine toward the end of the season, but he's a great value player who seems to boost the team during bad times, often keeping them in games they should be losing. My only real issue is how he disappears for prolonged periods of time.

Eberle - Small sample size so I don't have a lot to comment on here. It wasn't great, but players don't tend to come back from injuries and produce how they should (as evidenced by every Kraken player to ever get injured). I wasn't convinced of his leadership until the last 20 games. The team turned things around. Is he responsible? Is coaching? Is some other intervention from org leadership?

Eyssimont - I actually like this guy. He brings the fight that we lost with Tanev and Gourde leaving and frankly, I like him better as an overall player than Tanev because I feel like his negatives aren't as shockingly obvious. He feels like a Gourde type player with a lower ceiling, but his negatives are limited to not making much of an offensive impact. A good player to have on a 4th line.

Kartye - I wasn't super impressed with his season. I think Karts is in the position of not really having a 4th line type of game, but also not being skilled enough to see middle 6 minutes. A serviceable season for a 4th line player that I think got quite a bit better after the trade deadline.

Mahura - I'd keep him around. He is much better defensively than I expected and frankly, seems like a guy who could jump up to the second pair in Oleksiak's place if a proper replacement can't be found.

Stephens - He got a lot of opportunities this season, but I think he's hit his peak. He'll continue to be bouncing between the A and the NHL to ride out his career. He's fine as a player to plug into a roster, but he's not going to do much more.

Hayden - Underwhelming in his 20 games. I expected more. I expected more physicality. I'm no longer exactly sure what he's going to bring to Seattle.

Ottavainen - Nice to see him get a single game and be our only ppg player.

Winterton - I think he needs more time in the A.

Fleury - Time to let him go. Not because he isn't good, but because he is probably better suited elsewhere.

Melanson - Not enough to judge. His 1 outing was ok. Clearly he needs more seasoning. Looking forward to his pre-season opportunities. He's gritty though, tough.

Meyers - Existed, see my comments on Stephens.
 
Frankly, I'm looking forward to some action. If a team isn't good, nor on the cusp of good, there needs to be changes made. This season was a testament to additions not necessarily being enough, there has to be some movement in all directions to correct anything. I'd really like to see something really unexpected. Some very good teams have made huge sacrifices to either become good or stay good and they don't end up looking like the current Sharks after a couple of years.
Exactly. Just like you, I realize that this team sucks. The Kraken fans have been very loyal to the points. They have had years of practice as Mariners fans so it helps. But loyalty and patience can be fickle. Things need to change and we need a better product on the ice.

That will likely involve moving out players that are someone favorites, moving out 1st round picks or even some of our better prospects. Not everyone will be happy. But going in to the next season with no significant changes would be worse. You can't just keep waiting for elite players to land in your lap via the draft.
 
So, some thoughts on every player we saw this season.

McCann - Despite him having a rough middle section of the season, McCann again scored 60 points and I thought had an overall positive season. He has yet to show prolonged slumps, and remains a predictable contibutor.

Schwartz - Turns out Schwartz is still capable of staying healthy for an entire season, and he can score over 25 goals! I wasn't expecting either to happen, so that's great. Boosts his trade value and shows that keeping him around isn't a terrible idea.

Kakko - Kakko turned out to be a pretty good addition even though he wasn't as impactful late in the season. He had fewer games in Seattle but still managed to play better and produce more than he did for New York.

Wright - He looked very good in his first full season. He's got a future. I don't think he necessarily needs stars on his line, just minutes. 19 goals, 25 assists with the lack of minutes he had all season is fantastic. Minute for minute might be our best points producer (I'm not doing the math)

Nyman - He looks NHL ready. They burned a year of his contract, but oh well... it was worth it to see what he had and boost his confidence.

Beniers - Despite feeling like it wasn't enough, did end up scoring 20 goals. It feels very much like the Kraken don't have the right kind of player to really compliment Beniers' style. He's a good player, but there is definitely something more we need to see.

Daccord - Joey! He had a handful of very bad games, meaning he's not Hellebuyck. He did however put together a true over .500 season, and had a stat line we could only have dreamed of over the last 3 seasons. 27-23-5, 2.75, .906. That right there is an NHL starting netminder! Thank goodness we have one!

Oleksiak - His first 2/3 of the season was frustrating to watch. It was like the defensive version of Burakovsky (we'll get to him). He got better late in the season, as did everybody else, and I'm hoping that leads to value in trading him.

Larsson - His first half of the season wasn't good. He looked very out of his element for half the season. However, he REALLY turned it around and played a hell of a second half of the season defensively. It felt like as soon as we all started complaining about his play that it turned around. HI LARS, great job in the second half, bud!

Evans - Ok. This one is tough. He had an OK season, but I don't think he met my personal expectations. He's clearly and NHL player and will likely play a lot of NHL games, but I think this season showed his ceiling is probably on the 3rd pair if things don't improve quite a bit. He was a liability more often than I'd have liked. He's young and has time, and I'm rooting for him, but this season didn't boost my confidence.

Cups - Well, 51 points is nothing to sneeze at and he won faceoffs. Advanced stats HATE the guy, and I can see SOME of those things with the eye test, but I don't think he was nearly as bad as those advance stats show. He almost never shoots, which is frustrating, but he does pass pretty well. Nobody liked the contract, and frankly, despite my not entirely negative review of his season, I too don't like it still, but 51 points was second highest on the team... that's a lot we'd have to make up for from somebody else.

Montour - Montour is a sieve defensively, but produces offensively and set a record of goals by a Kraken defenseman in a season, so there is that. Paired with Oleksiak, it was like an open door for opposing teams to get into our defensive zone and get easy shots off. I do think he's a good player and his contract will remain pretty decent for at least 4 more years if he stays healthy, but he's going to need a much more complimentary partner.

Dunn - Not a great season, but there was the injury and he still managed to do pretty well in his limited time. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad and his last 20 games were a big step up, much like Larsson.

Burakovsky - If he hadn't finished the season on a high note, it would have gone down as one of the worst single seasons for a player in Kraken history, but he finished strong and that's about it. I hope he gets back to his old ways

Tolvanen - Probably one of the only players who didn't really shine toward the end of the season, but he's a great value player who seems to boost the team during bad times, often keeping them in games they should be losing. My only real issue is how he disappears for prolonged periods of time.

Eberle - Small sample size so I don't have a lot to comment on here. It wasn't great, but players don't tend to come back from injuries and produce how they should (as evidenced by every Kraken player to ever get injured). I wasn't convinced of his leadership until the last 20 games. The team turned things around. Is he responsible? Is coaching? Is some other intervention from org leadership?

Eyssimont - I actually like this guy. He brings the fight that we lost with Tanev and Gourde leaving and frankly, I like him better as an overall player than Tanev because I feel like his negatives aren't as shockingly obvious. He feels like a Gourde type player with a lower ceiling, but his negatives are limited to not making much of an offensive impact. A good player to have on a 4th line.

Kartye - I wasn't super impressed with his season. I think Karts is in the position of not really having a 4th line type of game, but also not being skilled enough to see middle 6 minutes. A serviceable season for a 4th line player that I think got quite a bit better after the trade deadline.

Mahura - I'd keep him around. He is much better defensively than I expected and frankly, seems like a guy who could jump up to the second pair in Oleksiak's place if a proper replacement can't be found.

Stephens - He got a lot of opportunities this season, but I think he's hit his peak. He'll continue to be bouncing between the A and the NHL to ride out his career. He's fine as a player to plug into a roster, but he's not going to do much more.

Hayden - Underwhelming in his 20 games. I expected more. I expected more physicality. I'm no longer exactly sure what he's going to bring to Seattle.

Ottavainen - Nice to see him get a single game and be our only ppg player.

Winterton - I think he needs more time in the A.

Fleury - Time to let him go. Not because he isn't good, but because he is probably better suited elsewhere.

Melanson - Not enough to judge. His 1 outing was ok. Clearly he needs more seasoning. Looking forward to his pre-season opportunities. He's gritty though, tough.

Meyers - Existed, see my comments on Stephens.
I agree with all of these. Nice job with the summaries.

Cups: I have to say, as much as I make fun of Cups, and his advanced numbers do stink, he looked better than them.

Beniers: He is kind of an enigma to me. He is smart, fast, hard working and defensively responsible. Does a really good job cycling the puck and has a pretty good shot. It's like he is struggling to just put it all together. I don't then he will ever be driving play on his line and maybe he needs a forward like that on his line.

Kartye: Serviceable 4th liner but if we get Eyssimont, who I do like, back then maybe trade Kartye or let him go.

Stephens/Hayden: Warm bodies. Should really not be getting much, if any NHL time. As a team struggling with top-end talent, we need to atleast make sure that bottom-6 can chip in more.

Mahura: I do like him and would like to keep him around.

I think the D as a whole needs fixing. Could be the personnel or the coaching or both.
 
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So, some thoughts on every player we saw this season.

McCann - Despite him having a rough middle section of the season, McCann again scored 60 points and I thought had an overall positive season. He has yet to show prolonged slumps, and remains a predictable contibutor.

Schwartz - Turns out Schwartz is still capable of staying healthy for an entire season, and he can score over 25 goals! I wasn't expecting either to happen, so that's great. Boosts his trade value and shows that keeping him around isn't a terrible idea.

Kakko - Kakko turned out to be a pretty good addition even though he wasn't as impactful late in the season. He had fewer games in Seattle but still managed to play better and produce more than he did for New York.

Wright - He looked very good in his first full season. He's got a future. I don't think he necessarily needs stars on his line, just minutes. 19 goals, 25 assists with the lack of minutes he had all season is fantastic. Minute for minute might be our best points producer (I'm not doing the math)

Nyman - He looks NHL ready. They burned a year of his contract, but oh well... it was worth it to see what he had and boost his confidence.

Beniers - Despite feeling like it wasn't enough, did end up scoring 20 goals. It feels very much like the Kraken don't have the right kind of player to really compliment Beniers' style. He's a good player, but there is definitely something more we need to see.

Daccord - Joey! He had a handful of very bad games, meaning he's not Hellebuyck. He did however put together a true over .500 season, and had a stat line we could only have dreamed of over the last 3 seasons. 27-23-5, 2.75, .906. That right there is an NHL starting netminder! Thank goodness we have one!

Oleksiak - His first 2/3 of the season was frustrating to watch. It was like the defensive version of Burakovsky (we'll get to him). He got better late in the season, as did everybody else, and I'm hoping that leads to value in trading him.

Larsson - His first half of the season wasn't good. He looked very out of his element for half the season. However, he REALLY turned it around and played a hell of a second half of the season defensively. It felt like as soon as we all started complaining about his play that it turned around. HI LARS, great job in the second half, bud!

Evans - Ok. This one is tough. He had an OK season, but I don't think he met my personal expectations. He's clearly and NHL player and will likely play a lot of NHL games, but I think this season showed his ceiling is probably on the 3rd pair if things don't improve quite a bit. He was a liability more often than I'd have liked. He's young and has time, and I'm rooting for him, but this season didn't boost my confidence.

Cups - Well, 51 points is nothing to sneeze at and he won faceoffs. Advanced stats HATE the guy, and I can see SOME of those things with the eye test, but I don't think he was nearly as bad as those advance stats show. He almost never shoots, which is frustrating, but he does pass pretty well. Nobody liked the contract, and frankly, despite my not entirely negative review of his season, I too don't like it still, but 51 points was second highest on the team... that's a lot we'd have to make up for from somebody else.

Montour - Montour is a sieve defensively, but produces offensively and set a record of goals by a Kraken defenseman in a season, so there is that. Paired with Oleksiak, it was like an open door for opposing teams to get into our defensive zone and get easy shots off. I do think he's a good player and his contract will remain pretty decent for at least 4 more years if he stays healthy, but he's going to need a much more complimentary partner.

Dunn - Not a great season, but there was the injury and he still managed to do pretty well in his limited time. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad and his last 20 games were a big step up, much like Larsson.

Burakovsky - If he hadn't finished the season on a high note, it would have gone down as one of the worst single seasons for a player in Kraken history, but he finished strong and that's about it. I hope he gets back to his old ways

Tolvanen - Probably one of the only players who didn't really shine toward the end of the season, but he's a great value player who seems to boost the team during bad times, often keeping them in games they should be losing. My only real issue is how he disappears for prolonged periods of time.

Eberle - Small sample size so I don't have a lot to comment on here. It wasn't great, but players don't tend to come back from injuries and produce how they should (as evidenced by every Kraken player to ever get injured). I wasn't convinced of his leadership until the last 20 games. The team turned things around. Is he responsible? Is coaching? Is some other intervention from org leadership?

Eyssimont - I actually like this guy. He brings the fight that we lost with Tanev and Gourde leaving and frankly, I like him better as an overall player than Tanev because I feel like his negatives aren't as shockingly obvious. He feels like a Gourde type player with a lower ceiling, but his negatives are limited to not making much of an offensive impact. A good player to have on a 4th line.

Kartye - I wasn't super impressed with his season. I think Karts is in the position of not really having a 4th line type of game, but also not being skilled enough to see middle 6 minutes. A serviceable season for a 4th line player that I think got quite a bit better after the trade deadline.

Mahura - I'd keep him around. He is much better defensively than I expected and frankly, seems like a guy who could jump up to the second pair in Oleksiak's place if a proper replacement can't be found.

Stephens - He got a lot of opportunities this season, but I think he's hit his peak. He'll continue to be bouncing between the A and the NHL to ride out his career. He's fine as a player to plug into a roster, but he's not going to do much more.

Hayden - Underwhelming in his 20 games. I expected more. I expected more physicality. I'm no longer exactly sure what he's going to bring to Seattle.

Ottavainen - Nice to see him get a single game and be our only ppg player.

Winterton - I think he needs more time in the A.

Fleury - Time to let him go. Not because he isn't good, but because he is probably better suited elsewhere.

Melanson - Not enough to judge. His 1 outing was ok. Clearly he needs more seasoning. Looking forward to his pre-season opportunities. He's gritty though, tough.

Meyers - Existed, see my comments on Stephens.
Terrific analysis, not to mention rational.

I am no math whizz but I think that McCann is still our best points producer (0.044 points per minute played) but Wright is a strong second (0.039 points per minute played).

Worth noting even though it was only by a single point (44 to 43) that Wright outscored Beniers this year, despite coping with a whopping four minutes and 37 seconds less ice time (14.04 to 18.41).
 
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Honestly this is a little bit terrifying. This team's ownership group doesn't seem to get it.


Well, sounds certainly better than a five month live feed of....
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Terrific analysis, not to mention rational.

I am no math whizz but I think that McCann is still our best points producers (0.044 points per minute played) but Wright is a strong second (0.039 points per minute played).

Worth noting even though it was only by a single point (44 to 43) that Wright outscored Beniers this year.

Thanks for doing the math I was never going to do.
 
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Honestly this is a little bit terrifying. This team's ownership group doesn't seem to get it.

Agreed. But you can see why management is getting antsy. If Lieweke was that happy with Francis, he probably wouldn't by putting his finger on the scales quite so publicly.
 
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Agreed. But you can see why management is getting antsy. If Lieweke was that happy with Francis, he probably wouldn't by putting his finger on the scales quite so publicly.

I think it's make or break time for Francis.

He has all the financial tools you could ever have and the Kraken were in the top five spending wise.
And they'll finish fith or sixth from bottom in the standings.

That's usually what ends a tenure of a GM.
 
Not sure why we’re saying it’s “make or break” for Francis now. We are already well past “break” with him at the helm but instead Lieweke stated yesterday that Francis will be returning next season as GM. We are already at the point of parody with this ownership team.
 
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Fooling around with point production, I asked AI what Wright (14.04) would have scored if he had Beniers amount of ice time (18.41). The answer I got was 57.6 points. From that perspective, Wright had a quite a bit better year in comparison with Matty than Shane's one point (44 to 43) superiority in actual scoring might suggest.
 


What the hell are these guys TALKING about? They were .500 over the last month, with like a +3 diff. They no-showed huge swathes of games and had to attempt furious comebacks like last night. But sure let’s pretend like they went on some tear like the Blues?

What?
 
I won’t lie: Lieweke announcing Francis is returning is hitting me real hard. I expected this would be the end of his road with the Kraken, either via dismissal or “falling upwards” to a VP position. The fact that they announced this before any sort of end of season exit review and assessment really really frustrates me.
 
I won’t lie: Lieweke announcing Francis is returning is hitting me real hard. I expected this would be the end of his road with the Kraken, either via dismissal or “falling upwards” to a VP position. The fact that they announced this before any sort of end of season exit review and assessment really really frustrates me.
He's on the hot seat at least.
 
I'm really disappointed in Beniers season. He just hasn't pushed on and still hasn't bulked up like he should have done 2 years back. I feel like that Myers hit last year seems to have really hampered his progress, just hasn't looked the same.
 

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