Value of: Kotkaniemi

[shello]

Would Chicago be interested in him? Don’t they need a bit of size and centre depth? He’s young too so he may develop further

 

[McDuffz88]

Hamilton or Palat 1 for 1

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Yeah, it's a minimal cap hit.

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That’s like half a DiPietro

 

[La Bamba]

I could see KK and a 2nd to Calgary for future considerations

He would fit in well with the other Calgary misfits

 

[Stuzchuk]

Would Chicago be interested in him? Don’t they need a bit of size and centre depth? He’s young too so he may develop further

Bottom feeders are a potential destination for sure. IMO CAR wont give up anything to dump the contract since the buyout is only a 1/3 under 26 buyout (8.25M over 10 years) but at 'say' 1M retention, he can provide positive value for teams in need of center depth.

 

[shello]

Bottom feeders are a potential destination for sure. IMO CAR wont give up anything to dump the contract since the buyout is only a 1/3 under 26 buyout (8.25M over 10 years) but at 'say' 1M retention, he can provide positive value for teams in need of center depth.

Yeah, I look at the Hawks centre depth and they have Bedard, Nazar, Greene and Veleno. Hard to not imagine KK couldn't get some nice ice time there

 

[spockBokk]

I could see KK and a 2nd to Calgary for future considerations

He would fit in well with the other Calgary misfits

Doubt the Canes will have to attach any sort of sweetener. His buyout is too cheap, if he’s traded it will be for something useful

 

[Nanuuk]

I'd take KK on the Flames in a heartbeat. We could send Farabee back the other way.

Flames have an abundance of LW's and need to have a succession plan for Backlund. They also need help taking face-offs.

The salary of both are about the same - 4.8M vs 5.0M

The age of both is comparable - 24 vs 25

Not sure what Carolina's requirements are, but the main one according to this thread is to rid themselves of Kotkaniemi.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

years later and i still hate Bergevin for picking him over Brady or Quinn

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Caufield

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Is a Carolina willing to part with a 1st to get KK off their books?

 

[Shocker]

Is a Carolina willing to part with a 1st to get KK off their books?

Perhaps you should read the thread before commenting stupid shit.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It feels like teams rarely pull the trigger on a 1st outright to get out of a problematic contract. Malakhov, Marleau and Monahan in the cap era off the top of my head. Any others?

 

[Djp]

How much does Carolina have to pay to dump this albatross

They can just buy him out on the cheap. Iirc he has till July 1 2026 for 1/3 buy out

 

[Chrispy]

I'd take KK on the Flames in a heartbeat. We could send Farabee back the other way.

Flames have an abundance of LW's and need to have a succession plan for Backlund. They also need help taking face-offs.

The salary of both are about the same - 4.8M vs 5.0M

The age of both is comparable - 24 vs 25

Not sure what Carolina's requirements are, but the main one according to this thread is to rid themselves of Kotkaniemi.

I feel like Farabee is more of the same for Carolina: skilled wingers who aren't that big. If Carolina moves Kotkaniemi (and it's not clear the front office feels that way; they have a ton of cap space and could extend the experiment while still significantly upgrading the roster) I don't think it's for an average sized skilled winger.

I think the base theory of the deal isn't bad; I just don't think Farabee is the right player for a hockey trade with Carolina.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Perhaps you should read the thread before commenting stupid shit.

Ha, KK is one of the most negative valued players in the NHL.

But they would be fortunate to get a player like this, that was actually scratched in the playoffs, off their books at any price, so buyout here he comes.

" Fourth-line centre Jesperi Kotkaniemi is also not playing on Thursday night, replaced in the bottom-six by Mark Jankowski.
Kotkaniemi, 24, has struggled to provide secondary offence for the Hurricanes, with just three assists in 11 playoff games. The former Montreal Canadiens forward had 12 goals and 33 points in 78 regular-season games."

Hurricanes' Jalen Chatfield, Jesperi Kotkaniemi out for Game 2

The Carolina Hurricanes will play another game in the Eastern Conference Final without a top-four defenceman.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[lanky]

Kotkaniemi for Maccelli?

 

[Peter Griffin]

Demko for KK+

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Is a Carolina willing to part with a 1st to get KK off their books?

Worst case, less than 1% of the cap next season, with that percentage shrinking by the year

 

[Sports2]

no team is touching that contract with a 10-foot pole. Just buy him out- i don’t even know how its a conversation.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ha, KK is one of the most negative valued players in the NHL.

But they would be fortunate to get a player like this, that was actually scratched in the playoffs, off their books at any price, so buyout here he comes.

" Fourth-line centre Jesperi Kotkaniemi is also not playing on Thursday night, replaced in the bottom-six by Mark Jankowski.
Kotkaniemi, 24, has struggled to provide secondary offence for the Hurricanes, with just three assists in 11 playoff games. The former Montreal Canadiens forward had 12 goals and 33 points in 78 regular-season games."

Hurricanes' Jalen Chatfield, Jesperi Kotkaniemi out for Game 2

The Carolina Hurricanes will play another game in the Eastern Conference Final without a top-four defenceman.

www.sportsnet.ca

The issue with your post wasn't that Kotkaniemi isn't very good. The problem with your post was the suggestion of Canes giving a 1st to get rid of him, because his buyout is such a low annual cap hit that it doesn't make sense to give a 1st to get rid of him.

 

[Son of Nogatco]

Pretty pumped that none of the teams I like didn’t pay their 3C almost $5M until 2030 but you do you

The contract was bad but that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be trading him or buying him out.

He’s about to transition into the part of the contract where it’s actually decent value. No point in cutting him loose now if it means losing assets or dead cap, only to turn around and pay his replacement something similar.

 

[GlitchMarner]

He's not terrible or worthless, but he is such a non-factor in the playoffs that I'm sure CAR would rather have him off the books than keep him at his current salary.

But he's decent enough in the season that there's no urgent need to give up an asset just to dump him.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Demko for KK+

Demko and Andersen as the goalie tandem in Carolina. What could go wrong?

Seriously though, as a Canes fan, I'd do that (depending on the +) and take the risk that Demko can stay healthy. I have little confidence in Kochetkov. Andersen is great when he's healthy, but he can't stay healthy.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Demko and Andersen as the goalie tandem in Carolina. What could go wrong?

Seriously though, as a Canes fan, I'd do that (depending on the +) and take the risk that Demko can stay healthy. I have little confidence in Kochetkov. Andersen is great when he's healthy, but he can't stay healthy.

I think it would depend entirely on how they view KK and his contract as well as if Silovs’ playoff run has given them the confidence to move on from Demko and run a Lankinen/Silovs tandem. But personally I think that + would have to be something like Carolina’s 1st but I don’t consider KK to have great value.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think it would depend entirely on how they view KK and his contract as well as if Silovs’ playoff run has given them the confidence to move on from Demko and run a Lankinen/Silovs tandem. But personally I think that + would have to be something like Carolina’s 1st but I don’t consider KK to have great value.

I agree KK doesn't have great value. On the flip side, a goalie with 1 year left before UFA coming off an injury filled season probably doesn't warrant a 1st, with or without KK. Just my $0.02.

Canes FO may feel differently. If Andersen is healthy, he's going to start half the games next year and he wasn't the issue with Carolina in the playoffs this year. Still, I don't think Kochetkov is good enough so an upgrade is needed.