Rumor: Kotkaniemi Extension - 8 x $4.25-$4.5

[GIN ANTONIC]

This Forum is all kinds of f***ed up right now. Let’s get this one going again.



Huge win for Canes long term if true and JK gets some good guaranteed money and a larger role next year.

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[CristianoRonaldo]

A great contract for the Canes, at worst, he's a #3C.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

A great contract for the Canes, at worst, he's a #3C.

Ya for sure. Could be Trochek replacement for 2C as soon as next year. Staal is a a UFA after next year as well so there will be C spots open for him Drury and potentially Jarvis if they go that route with him.

Assuming we can sign Aho to another extension having this depth going forward would be great considering the cost and age of players.

Aho
Kotkaniemi
Jarvis
Drury

 

[FrankMTL]

Wow, this would mean KK isn't betting on himself becoming anything more than a 3C. If he breaks out next season , he'll be regretting that one. He's taking more money security than anything. If I was his agent I'd be pushing a 3 or 4 year deal (5 max) to bring him to UFA between 25-27.

Big win for Carolina if true though.

 

[Jaska]

Maybe he is in a happy place with this team? He will have enough money, so he can focus on the better things in life.

 

[DaveG]

big if true, honestly I was expecting more a 4-5 year deal still

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He showed flashes of brilliance as a hab and then showed flashes of being complete garbage.

Obviously there's a risk with the term if he can't figure it out, but if he does, could easily be a steal as early as the 1st, or 2nd season of the deal.

 

[amnesiac]

similar to JEE, probably well worth it longterm

 

[SoupNazi]

This is a huge win for the Canes as the cap goes up. And if he develops into a 2C, this is going to be a bargain.

 

[BB88]

Montreal fans sure know how to work angles.

If true pretty good use of a late 1st for Carolina, huge steal potential

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I would argue it’s medium risk on both sides. The big advantage from the Canes perspective is that he can either outperform the contract which is great, play to the expectations of the contract which is fine… if he underperforms this contract is pretty buyout friendly in that it would only be on 1/3 of the amount or at only $4-4.5m it probably isn’t impossible to find a trade partner.

high risk high reward.... 8 years is quite a bit for him, though

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Carolina took MTL’s lunch money and ran with it.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Pretty much what I expected but I thought it would have been done a couple months ago.

 

[MinJaBen]

Pretty much what I expected but I thought it would have been done a couple months ago.

Apparently, an eight year deal means he can't sign until after the trade deadline.

 

[BB88]

Pretty much what I expected but I thought it would have been done a couple months ago.

It sounds like 8 year deal can’t be official before trade deadline is over

 

[RC51]

KK is currently worth 4.5 for sure from now on. If he signs for 8 years he is stupid. What if he gets better? and STUCK in that 8 years deal.
Example. If in two years he gets better and would sign for 6mil per as a 20-25 goals guy. stuck in that 4.5 he is leaving 6 years at maybe 1.5 mil per extra.
His pay rate will not go down from the 4.5 per so KK is giving up a ton of potential MONEY for maybe 6 years.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Apparently, an eight year deal means he can't sign until after the trade deadline.

It sounds like 8 year deal can’t be official before trade deadline is over

Interesting. I thought that they only had to wait until Jan 1st since he is on a 1yr deal.

 

[Mickey Marner]

If Kotkaniemi ever figures it out this contract could be a steal. Or he could be an expensive 3rd liner for a long time. Personally I don't think he should sign for 8 years. There are greater odds that he ends up underpaid by 20 million than overpaid by 10 over the course of the deal.

 

[mikeyfan]

If the Cap starts going up, it won't matter if KK turns out to be a medium player, 4.25 to 4.5 will be a good deal.

 

[Chrispy]

If Kotkaniemi ever figures it out this contract could be a steal. Or he could be an expensive 3rd liner for a long time. Personally I don't think he should sign for 8 years. There are greater odds that he ends up underpaid by 20 million than overpaid by 10 over the course of the deal.

Canes are currently paying their 3C $6M per year. Staal is a great defensive center, but dropping that over a million as the cap starts going up again seems like a great long term bet.

And as said earlier, if he’s a total bust they can buy him out at 1/3 even after 3 years. Would be a LONG buyout, but 1/3 of $4.5M would only be a $1.5M cap hit for the buyout.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

his negotiations crashed the HF servers

 

[Kaiden Ghoul]

I remember when KK give the 4 finger to Bergevin,

Like you will only give me 4 million

Freakin bum

 

[Mickey Marner]

Canes are currently paying their 3C $6M per year. Staal is a great defensive center, but dropping that over a million as the cap starts going up again seems like a great long term bet.

And as said earlier, if he’s a total bust they can buy him out at 1/3 even after 3 years. Would be a LONG buyout, but 1/3 of $4.5M would only be a $1.5M cap hit for the buyout.

Staal is the best 3C of the post-lockout era though and can be hard-matched against top competition. I think you'd get you pay for as far as cap savings go.

I doubt he'd be bought out. More likely he'd be dumped like Matheson or Zaitsev if he flops.

 

[BB88]

Interesting. I thought that they only had to wait until Jan 1st since he is on a 1yr deal.

Twitter has had new info about it today.
Apparently that’s only for 8 year extensions(in this contract situation, offer sheet)

 

[Tryamw]

I assume the after the 21st is to prevent an NBA style sign and trade.