Injury Report: Kochetkov is in the concussion protocol - out indefinitely

[Derailed75]

I wouldn't be upset if they found a way to bring Gibson in but I think the contract keeps that from happening.
Buy low guys I think could look good.

Korpisalo
Foresburg
Samsonov

 

[Borsig]

Maybe I am wrong but Gibson just isn't that good.

I'll take Mr. Azek back. I mean you're not getting much, but I'll take him back.

 

[JustPenalties]

This is exactly the bullshit I DON'T want.

Giving up picks because we kept andersen around.

Agreed. Gibson is not the answer. If we trade picks for Gibson its a desperate move.

 

[AD Skinner]

Martin hasn’t looked that good but he has looked good in his all black pad setup. And I mean that’s not nothing

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Unless the Borg is going to use this as an opportunity to do a total change of their goaltending approach, I doubt we see a multi-year committed solution to an 8-12 week problem.

 

[Chrispy]

Unless the Borg is going to use this as an opportunity to do a total change of their goaltending approach, I doubt we see a multi-year committed solution to an 8-12 week problem.

I can see them going after someone who is signed through 2026 and skip the UFA craziness this off-season.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While I'm not suggesting that Gibson is the answer, the notion that sending a pick for a goalie, even short term, isn't that big of a deal to me, unless it's a 1st round pick.

Canes have drafted 40 players in the last 4 drafts and there was no chance, that even if these prospects pan out at historical NHL rates, that the Canes could keep them all. Assuming some/most of guys like Nadeau, FUS, Artamonov, Morrow, Nikishin, and maybe even Legault pan out over the next 2-3 years, it's going to be hard to crack this line-up.

Plus, we know the Canes are going to turn their 1st round pick next year into 2 seconds and a 4th. Or if they have any cap space left, will use it for a retention slot for another 4th or 5th. It's what they do.

 

[To Be Determined]

I can see them going after someone who is signed through 2026 and skip the UFA craziness this off-season.

that's spelled m-r-a-z-e-k

 

[Borsig]

I'd actually rather give up something for Mr. Azek than Gibson. Not that he's available.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Is Gibson really that any more? He's not a #1 goalie in Anaheim right now. He hasn't played in the playoffs in 7 seasons.

I haven't watched much of Gibson to comment on his play, but his numbers are pretty bad. while some of that can be attributed to the team in front of him, not all of it because he's been performing worse that some of the other goalies on his same team for some of that time.

People are not properly putting the numbers into context and that's a hill I'll die on. A .900 SV% is a serious accomplishment on these teams that the Ducks have iced in recent years, when you are talking about having to go out there 50+ games and get shelled almost every night. The argument about his backup goalies has come up but I have gone through game by game to show that Stolarz for example played 1/3 of the time and against a huge percentage of other bottom feeders, not to mention he was essentially fighting for his NHL career at the time. Same team in front of them but almost entirely different circumstances. I realize Dostal has come along and shown really well but he has yet to prove he can hold up when thrown to the fire with the same usage as Gibson in the long term, and we are perhaps already seeing him fade a bit after having taken the full time reigns during Gibson's injury. It's also entirely possible that Dostal is an elite goalie, so him "outperforming" Gibson in a small sample isn't a big knock

In order to properly evaluate Gibson for the purpose of deciding how he would perform in a competitive environment, one needs to understand that no goalie in the NHL has come remotely close to spending as much time in the crease in completely futile situations. I'm not saying he doesn't occasionally allow a softie early in a game, because even the most elite goalies do so, but the most common script for Ducks games in recent years has Gibson playing well in front of a team showing zero counter attack. You guys as hockey fans know how often there are games where the goalie plays well (or at least better than anyone on his team) but still allows 5 on 35-40 shots - Gibson has dealt with more of those nights than anyone due to circumstance. Honestly the majority of the leaky goals seem to happen on those lost nights where there's no game to keep them in. Definitely see some body language stuff there, no doubt a bit of self preservation. Who wants to stand on their head three times per week to try and lose 3-1 instead of 5-1?

I don't know how to go about it or if it's possible, but I'd love to come to a consensus on what would be considered a "competitive situation" ie your team actually having a fighting chance of winning the game. Then chop Gibson's data set down to just include that time, before comparing it to others. I would strongly suggest that he's just about as good as anyone when he actually has a chance of helping his team win a game. Ultimately that's what a team like the Canes or Avs should be concerned with. They aren't going to throw him to the wolves night after night for weeks on end, just need him to be consistently solid.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

People are not properly putting the numbers into context and that's a hill I'll die on. A .900 SV% is a serious accomplishment on these teams that the Ducks have iced in recent years, when you are talking about having to go out there 50+ games and get shelled almost every night. The argument about his backup goalies has come up but I have gone through game by game to show that Stolarz for example played 1/3 of the time and against a huge percentage of other bottom feeders, not to mention he was essentially fighting for his NHL career at the time. Same team in front of them but almost entirely different circumstances. I realize Dostal has come along and shown really well but he has yet to prove he can hold up when thrown to the fire with the same usage as Gibson in the long term, and we are perhaps already seeing him fade a bit after having taken the full time reigns during Gibson's injury. It's also entirely possible that Dostal is an elite goalie, so him "outperforming" Gibson in a small sample isn't a big knock

In order to properly evaluate Gibson for the purpose of deciding how he would perform in a competitive environment, one needs to understand that no goalie in the NHL has come remotely close to spending as much time in the crease in completely futile situations. I'm not saying he doesn't occasionally allow a softie early in a game, because even the most elite goalies do so, but the most common script for Ducks games in recent years has Gibson playing well in front of a team showing zero counter attack. You guys as hockey fans know how often there are games where the goalie plays well (or at least better than anyone on his team) but still allows 5 on 35-40 shots - Gibson has dealt with more of those nights than anyone due to circumstance. Honestly the majority of the leaky goals seem to happen on those lost nights where there's no game to keep them in. Definitely see some body language stuff there, no doubt a bit of self preservation. Who wants to stand on their head three times per week to try and lose 3-1 instead of 5-1?

I don't know how to go about it or if it's possible, but I'd love to come to a consensus on what would be considered a "competitive situation" ie your team actually having a fighting chance of winning the game. Then chop Gibson's data set down to just include that time, before comparing it to others. I would strongly suggest that he's just about as good as anyone when he actually has a chance of helping his team win a game. Ultimately that's what a team like the Canes or Avs should be concerned with. They aren't going to throw him to the wolves night after night for weeks on end, just need him to be consistently solid.

that's a wall of words.

Can you summarize in 1 sentence?

 

[MinJaBen]

that's a wall of words.

Can you summarize in 1 sentence?

Please take him off our hands?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

that's a wall of words.

Can you summarize in 1 sentence?

Gibson decent, Ducks very bad

Please take him off our hands?

Lol I don't have any delusions of thinking my pleading would somehow helped him get moved. I do think it's time to give him a fresh start, would genuinely like to see him go to a good team like yours and really do have confidence he is better than what people gather from just looking at stats.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Gibson decent, Ducks very bad

 

[chaz4hockey]

P,0-

that's a wall of words.

Can you summarize in 1 sentence?

"please take our well past his prime goalie & please give us some of your good young assets"

 

[hblueridgegal]

Nice to see that he is out and about.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I like Mrazek but there is zero chance we can go into next year with him and Koochie right? Only enough room on this roster for one crazy bastard in net. Could trade for him as a stopgap this year with plans to move him again in the offseason though.

 

[Rad ChaLose]

I like Mrazek but there is zero chance we can go into next year with him and Koochie right? Only enough room on this roster for one crazy bastard in net. Could trade for him as a stopgap this year with plans to move him again in the offseason though.

Was just about to post the same. Can you imagine the craziness of both Mrazek and Kooch on the same roster? Would the universe be able to handle it?

(I love Mrazek)

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I've said it before and I will say it again: Gibson, with salary retention, makes by far the most sense in terms of timeline (2.5 seasons remaining) and likely asset cost (relatively low). I would not be shocked if they finalize that trade on deadline day.

 

[A Star is Burns]

 

[gooseygoose]

Concussion protocol is a week minimum right? Wondering my chances of seeing him in net when I’m there Friday…

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Glad to hear it both for his sake and the team’s sake.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Glad to hear it both for his sake and the team’s sake.

He always wants to play so hopefully he is telling the team doctors the truth.

 

[Wolfpuck]

He’s like Jack Bauer from 24. Knocking him unconscious only makes him angrier.