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But my point is that there are still many teams that will draft ahead of you.
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but they may not commit to those teams that’s the thing. Especially in another league like going out west or to the east. again though… what if they don’t even want to come to the CHL? (which I doubt but that is still on the table)
Lots of cards on the table but those 2 would be my preferred picks. You know you’re getting 2 skilled kids with a good family and a brother who has had recent success with the team. Pretty safe picks and 1 is a forward and 1 is a D
Are we really gonna ignore the fact that ben pickel and cal uens proved in the playoffs they’re not just glue guys?
Players possible to return
Playoff numbers
Miedema - 1 goal (uens back door tap in)
Soto- 2g 1 a
Willis - 1g 3a
Bishop- 1a (very reliable simple doesn’t have to produce)
Hay- 0g 5a
McGowan- supers star at choice. Word is he is a locker room problem with his don’t give a shit attitude especially off ice. trade is best option. Need good people for this young core.
Uens 4g 4a
Pickel- 4g 2a
Playoffs are what matter! Ik you didn’t say some these guys where back I’m just saying even if they where I don’t think uens and pickels locker room qualities are what make them deserve to stay it’s those qualities that cement why they should stay.
Pickel- 4 goals 2 assist, but brought more energy and compete than anyone he shut down and wore down defencmen all series long. he’s not a skill guy who started to produce in the big moments, while playing against the other teams top line every night with low skill similar style players in hay and heyes. Give pickel some skilled players to play with and I think he could be a great OA not just defensively
Uens- 4 goals 4 assist 11 gp as a defencemen with no pp time. He stepped up his game this year then the playoffs came and there was a whole other gear. That confidence he played with is what he has lacked his entire career. 5 on 5 uens generated more chances than any other defencmen this playoffs. While stile playing a hard shot blocking pk game. I noticed a couple more mistakes in his breakouts while eating 25+ minutes with McGowan out but that is expected the way he changed his play style and stepped into a bigger role. I think he could be due for a massive season given a OA chance and even get pp time to put up a 30-40 point season like he was drafted to do so
Sorry this is so long I got logged out my old account and haven’t been able to responds lately.
Last note our deadline pickups combined for 1 goal when it mattered
Hay 0
Willis 1
Bishop 0
Players possible to return
Playoff numbers
Miedema - 1 goal (uens back door tap in)
Soto- 2g 1 a
Willis - 1g 3a
Bishop- 1a (very reliable simple doesn’t have to produce)
Hay- 0g 5a
McGowan- supers star at choice. Word is he is a locker room problem with his don’t give a shit attitude especially off ice. trade is best option. Need good people for this young core.
Uens 4g 4a
Pickel- 4g 2a
Playoffs are what matter! Ik you didn’t say some these guys where back I’m just saying even if they where I don’t think uens and pickels locker room qualities are what make them deserve to stay it’s those qualities that cement why they should stay.
Pickel- 4 goals 2 assist, but brought more energy and compete than anyone he shut down and wore down defencmen all series long. he’s not a skill guy who started to produce in the big moments, while playing against the other teams top line every night with low skill similar style players in hay and heyes. Give pickel some skilled players to play with and I think he could be a great OA not just defensively
Uens- 4 goals 4 assist 11 gp as a defencemen with no pp time. He stepped up his game this year then the playoffs came and there was a whole other gear. That confidence he played with is what he has lacked his entire career. 5 on 5 uens generated more chances than any other defencmen this playoffs. While stile playing a hard shot blocking pk game. I noticed a couple more mistakes in his breakouts while eating 25+ minutes with McGowan out but that is expected the way he changed his play style and stepped into a bigger role. I think he could be due for a massive season given a OA chance and even get pp time to put up a 30-40 point season like he was drafted to do so
Sorry this is so long I got logged out my old account and haven’t been able to responds lately.
Last note our deadline pickups combined for 1 goal when it mattered
Hay 0
Willis 1
Bishop 0
Did you wake up this AM with events from 3 weeks ago burning fresh in your mind?
FrontalLobe working OT?
You make some fair points but remember that the results of our team were dictated by trades made by GM of the year and minutes distributed by Coach Mann.
Is your intent to pump-up certain players in this post and put down others - maybe it's just the way I'm reading it.
Try to bump into the GM on the golf course and ask about a special advisor role to get #44 and #12 as top OA candidates for next season.
I see things differently but everyone is entitled to their online opinion.
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I think the one that was complaining about the teams handling of Cal's concussions if i remember correctly.
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Always the expert insider too (for superstar cal uens exclusively)
Apparently Hayes 13 points and Hay's 5 assists, 58% on the dot both defesively minded you considered them not skilled players, really? They were a true checking line that were able to make plays and put it in the net. So basically your thought process is as long as a player can score they are skilled? SMH. Have you ever watched players when they don't have the puck because you should.
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I would suggest that some of the points are valid, If we go back onthis forum there is ot a lot of cheering for Mediema or Soto.
There is a fair amount for McGowan and you need him back healthy for next year to anchor the blueline.
MCGowan played less games than Uens and had more points and was only +4 behind him.
You can not use the Playoffs as a guide for these two, as you have to wonder if Uens would have been as successful is MCGowan had still played.
My 3 OA I think are
Pickel Hay McGowan
There is a fair amount for McGowan and you need him back healthy for next year to anchor the blueline.
MCGowan played less games than Uens and had more points and was only +4 behind him.
You can not use the Playoffs as a guide for these two, as you have to wonder if Uens would have been as successful is MCGowan had still played.
My 3 OA I think are
Pickel Hay McGowan
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Beast you’re a genius
Until I saw these 3.
Hay is going to University next year
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Then I would add Soto only because you need at least 1 RW player that knows a little about the OHL.
Soto is not good enough to burn a spot on in this league when there is only 3.
He is also not strong enough in both ends of the rink imo. -He is pushed off pucks way to easy due to his size and his 2 way game is not good.
You would be better off to keep Uens & McGowan around along with Pickell so there is some veteran presence on the back end on whats going to likely be a young team.
Totally agree on the Soto take. I hope they try to retain as many D as they can with OA spots. Pickell was one of my favourites and would be Ok with him being one of the three. But got thinking that if they were to keep McGowan, Uens, and Bishop. Those three along with Williamson give you a fairly reliable top 4 to help groom the younger guys in. The fwd crew will be young but skilled and then add what they see as areas of need through the Euro draft and some trades. Not going to contend but should be competitive. Then assess before the deadline.
It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out with the 3 D OA'S that's for sure.
Also possible they start the season with all 3 of them and work on a trade.
I'm not sure the status of McGowan but i hear often that his heart is not in hockey anymore, although he does not let it show on the ice.
I think going undrafted can affect the mindset of a lot of these kids but I also know Troy has been going out of his way to get him into NHL camps and has nothing but good things to say to NHL scouts about him.
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1 of bishop or McGowan would have to go IMO.
McGowan fan favourite and “second most underrated in east” gotta think that guy sells some tickets. Will be interesting to see what Springer does. Bishop cooper acquired likely to be able to flip him in OA year to lessen the blow of the trades-however McGowan is quite a bit better IMO.
Keep Pickell, Uens and Vaccari if 3 OA’s.
If 4- Pickell, Uens, Vaccari and 1 of the 2 d men I just mentioned.
Yeah I particularly noticed this with Soto. He had a big spark during his draft year and even scored a BEAUTIFUL goal against Saginaw and everything was going good for him then he didn’t get drafted.
Gabriel Frasca went undrafted too and obviously didn’t have a very good year in Erie.
Would really take the wind out of the sails being a first round OHL pick (best junior development league in world) and then going undrafted to the NHL in your DY
Then there’s guys like Miedema who get drafted and don’t get any better for 2/3 years lol.
It's just way to early to know for sure what's going to happen.
One thing i'm almost certain is that Miedema will not be back.
I know there is a good hate on for Miedema in Kingston but as an outside fan looking in he was 4th on your team in scoring with zero PP time during the season top 5 in GWG and I believe at the trade deadline was leading the OHL in 5 on 5 scoring. I am sure there will be a few teams that would be more then willing to bring him on for his OA year
whats up with the kingston front burner accounts over the last few days?
for what its worth miedema had 1:30 in pp time last year on average via instat
he probably only earned that, hes always struggled with applying his game and pushing himeslf vs taking the easy way out.
for what its worth miedema had 1:30 in pp time last year on average via instat
he probably only earned that, hes always struggled with applying his game and pushing himeslf vs taking the easy way out.
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I think you missed my point. I said to keep Soto only because you have only 1 other RW and being in his second year i am not sure he is ready.
I agree that Soto does not bring much, but I would be interested in knowing what you see the lineup look like on the Right side.
What L can you slide over there for your top lines?
There's is at least 7 players that play RW so i don't see what you're concern is .
Clark
Kelly
Pickell
Wright
Willis (if he returns)
Not to mention Battaglia plays both sides
Kuzma is able to play rw as well.
Troy is known to keep his veterns at C too maybe Kulemin starts a wing?
And that is just from the current players before final signings and trades
Clark
Kelly
Pickell
Wright
Willis (if he returns)
Not to mention Battaglia plays both sides
Kuzma is able to play rw as well.
Troy is known to keep his veterns at C too maybe Kulemin starts a wing?
And that is just from the current players before final signings and trades
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