Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[Chris Coutu]

Go Charlie Go! Will be a fan favorite tonight in the visitors barn!

 

[leafs4life94]

Looks like it is Lalonde vs Schenkel - fastest revenge game ever incoming for Lalonde?

 

[panarinsbread]

What’s up with Willis?

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

I am told that apparently collingwood wants $ first, so not playing tonight.

Apparently my info was not correct

What’s up with Willis?

Either under the weather or maintenance of minor injury.

 

[leafs4life94]

Either under the weather or maintenance of minor injury.

I thought I saw him get up a little slowly after a hit yesterday but he finished the game so I didn't think much of it.

 

[frontsfan67]

Looks like it's sorted, lines having him playing 4RW

Miedema-Guindon-Uronen
Pickell-Hay-Heyes
Battaglia-Hopkins-Soto
Clark-Kelly-Wright
Buttar as alternate

Burns-Moore
Pieniniemi-Bishop
Uens-Williamson

Schenkel
Betts

Ummmm no Joey Willis??? Anyone know why?

Resting

Been playing lots of hockey lately. Playing tomorrow I believe

 

[ottsabrefan]

Looking at all the trades for this year dating all the way back to the Thibodeau trade in June (this is net - I didn't add picks/players that were both acquired and traded away this year)

Players
IN - Tuomas Uronen, Cedrick Guindon, Ethan Hay, Will Bishop, Joey Willis, Charlie Schenkel
OUT - Gabriel Frasca, Caleb Malhotra, Jakub Chromiak, Christopher Thibodeau, Matthew Manza, Xander Velliaris, Ethan Weir, Luke McNamara

Draft Picks
IN - FLNT 2 2028*, BFD 3 2028*, SAR 4 2027*, BFD 4 2028*, SAR 4 2028*, NIAG 5 2025, FLNT 5 2027, BFD 5 2028*, KIT 8 2027*, ER 10 2026, SAR 10 2027*

OUT - SAR 2 2026, KGN 2 2027, KGN 2 2028, NIAG 3 2025, KIT 3 2026, GUE 3 2027, KGN 3 2027, KGN 3 2028, NIAG 4 2025, KGN 4 2026, KGN 4 2028, BRAM 5 2025, KGN 5 2026, KGN 5 2027, KGN 5 2028, KGN 6 2028, KGN 7 2025, SAR 7 2027*, SOO 8 2026, KGN 10 2026

Net Draft Pick Change
2nd ---> -3 (-2 if Thibodeau plays OA)
3rd --> -4 (-3 if Malhotra reports)
4th --> -3 (-1 if Manza reports, -2 if Malhotra reports, even if both report)
5th --> -2 (-1 if Malhotra reports)
6th --> -1
7th --> -2 (unknown condition on SAR 7 2027 - traded away for Uronen)
8th --> -1 (unknown condition on KIT 8 2027 - acquired for Chromiak)
10th --> +1 (Even if Manza reports)

By the sounds of it Manza will report, and I would guess Thibodeau plays an OA. With those assumptions, only trading 2 2nds, 4 3rds and 1 4th to upgrade the roster is significantly better than I thought.

Obviously the Uronen trade was a heist, the Guindon trade has been above market and although much too early I like the Schenkel return.

The Lalonde experiment cost them a 3rd and a 7th - not ideal but unlikely those extra picks would've made a major difference in any additional moves. The Saginaw trades although an overpay, fit needs, and in a year like this I'd rather overpay to get their guys rather than stand pat.

Great write-up! Very interesting to see it broken down like that.

I would also add the 1st compensatory pick as an IN since you included Malholtra as an OUT.

 

[TrustInIX]

Well, this start is definitely worse than the North Bay game. No jump whatsoever

 

[GoFronts]

Verrrrry rough first period. Could be heading for a Barrie situation where it takes a few games to figure things out. Barrie is 0-2 with a loss to Peterborough since their big moves...I fear that could be us the way we're playing to start tonight.

 

[panarinsbread]

Very Sloppy first

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Well, this start is definitely worse than the North Bay game. No jump whatsoever

Pretty sloppy and slow

 

[TrustInIX]

Schenkel's looked alright besides the 2 rebound goals, which I won't put too much onto him, 1st goal poor D-Zone coverage and the 2nd goal was a bad penalty taken by Heyes

 

[leafs4life94]

It's one thing if the new acquisitions are struggling, but it's games like this where the Battaglia line needs to take over. They have chemistry already, we need them to step while the others adjust.

Even if they start playing well, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Lalonde goalies Kingston. Just feels like one of those games

 

[panarinsbread]

There’s one

 

[TrustInIX]

There’s one

First goal as a Front for Ethan Hay

 

[panarinsbread]

Yikes..

 

[TrustInIX]

That went to shit, real quick

 

[leafs4life94]

Maybe Lalonde wasn't the problem this is an embarassing effort

 

[ottsabrefan]

I wonder how long Schenkel’s save percentage remains above .900 with this team D. lol

 

[TrustInIX]

This game isn't about a Goaltending problem, this is just straight-up one team one team having no energy or jump in them, especially against a team you SHOULD be beating

 

[panarinsbread]

No jump, no energy just asleep at the wheel

 

[JoeSchmo]

Emotional game for Charlie. I almost think he shouldn’t have started. Team is completely flat.

 

[TrustInIX]

Well that goal at the end should give some hope to the team, we've come back before against better teams (i.e Oshawa) but I don't have a lot of hope in this one

 

[leafs4life94]

It's brutal that this even crossed my mind but with the way they showed up I couldn't help but think - this team has had no major road trips yet this year so I wonder if they're just tired? 5 hours up to NB yesterday, played a game, and then another almost 5 hours over to Soo today.

 

[TrustInIX]

It's brutal that this even crossed my mind but with the way they showed up I couldn't help but think - this team has had no major road trips yet this year so I wonder if they're just tired? 5 hours up to NB yesterday, played a game, and then another almost 5 hours over to Soo today.

That I feel is definitely playing a part in this, almost 5 hours of travel after the game last night in North Bay to then play today is a tough break for any team, would also explain why the Fronts are 1-11 in the their last 12 matchups against the Soo (I believe anyway)