Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[frontsfan67]

Tough spot for Oshawa - - Friday night in Ottawa, Saturday night in Barrie and not likely home before midnight, now 2pm on Sunday.

Oster starting all three really highlights Oshawa’s need for a competent back up goalie.

Not gonna be too many better goalies to learn from than Oster. I’m sure gravelle is learning lots.

 

[ottsabrefan]

I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again. If they pushed all their chips in this year to make the finals EVEN IF THEY LOST it would still be a huge win for the franchise. Can’t be any worse than it was for Oshawa last year. Only 2 teams I believe that haven’t been to a finals- Sarnia and Kingston.

Also when was last time they were ranked in the chl top 10? Probably the Bennett year I assume? That brings fans too. If they could consistently be in the chl top 10 ONE year they’d probably gain a lot of fans from even that.

I have no issues with the boom and bust years but they need to win in the boom years, and that has legit been the issue with the Fronts for decades and what has separated them from the Petes, Gens, bulldogs, etc. who have won in the boom years.

 

[frontsfan67]

Kingston likes their backup so much they played him over half the game really highlights the need for a starter in Kingston

Lalonde isn’t great but he isn’t horrible. If they do have championship aspirations I would definitely upgrade though. Played horrible today but usually pretty steady was 4th In league in GAA prior to today

I have no issues with the boom and bust years but they need to win in the boom years, and that has legit been the issue with the Fronts for decades and what has separated them from the Petes, Gens, bulldogs, etc. who have won in the boom years.

Oh absolutely I’m a strong believer if you’re not going to be a top 3/4 team you should consider a light sell unless you’re a young team that needs that experience.

 

[beastintheeast]

Lalonde isn’t great but he isn’t horrible. If they do have championship aspirations I would definitely upgrade though. Played horrible today but usually pretty steady was 4th In league in GAA prior to today

If you can get an offer for Vaccari, would you trade him and either move Betts up or find a 19-year-old who is better suited to back up LaLonde?

Just wondering.

Oh absolutely I’m a strong believer if you’re not going to be a top 3/4 team you should consider a light sell unless you’re a young team that needs that experience.

One of the things that Cooper has to look at is how the other teams are doing. Barrie, Brampton, and Brantford have the assets to make pretty good offers. Oshawa has a good team, but I am not sure they have the assets to improve with trades.

Looking at the fronts, I'm not sure who you have to offer in a trade that will yield a good return. It is going to be interesting to see what he does and how the deadline deals start to unwind.

You definitely have a good team and it should be competitive if you make the right moves.

That brings up the question

What is the right move? I think that a player like Mews, who will be here next year, would be a perfect mate for Pie on the powerplay.

 

[dirty12]

If you can get an offer for Vaccari, would you trade him and either move Betts up or find a 19-year-old who is better suited to back up LaLonde?

Just wondering.

One of the things that Cooper has to look at is what are the other teams doing. Barrie, Brampton and Brantford have the assets to make pretty good offers. Oshawa has a good team, but I am not sure they have the assets to improve with trades.

Looking at the fronts, I'm not sure who you have to offer in a trade that will yield a good return. It is going to be interesting to see what he does and how the deadline deals start to unwind.

As the deadline to move graduating players approaches, teams will back off their demand for Hopkins; or, offer a package for Hopkins that Kingston cannot refuse.

 

[beastintheeast]

As the deadline to move graduating players approaches, teams will back off their demand for Hopkins; or, offer a package for Hopkins that Kingston cannot refuse.

I can see trading him for a rental player but my question is what happens next year for a center

 

[dirty12]

I can see trading him for a rental player but my question is what happens next year for a center

If Kingston received a package worth 2.5 seasons of Hopkins, I think no one would really care about next season.
I can’t imagine a suitable offer TBH. I doubt Kingston would go for Allard, Gibson if having to give Heyes, Hopkins, pick(s). Maybe if SSM offered the flexibility that would come with Miller, but that makes less sense for SSM. It would have to be something obscene like Gibson, Allard, Cloutier/Mignosa

 

[beastintheeast]

If Kingston received a package worth 2.5 seasons of Hopkins, I think no one would really care about next season.
I can’t imagine a suitable offer TBH. I doubt Kingston would go for Allard, Gibson if having to give Heyes, Hopkins, pick(s). Maybe if SSM offered the flexibility that would come with Miller, but that makes less sense for SSM. It would have to be something obscene like Gibson, Allard, Cloutier/Mignosa

If the trade is good and the team is a winner and makes at least the second round, you may be right. But is one player going to make enough of a difference?

Right now your top line stats wise (not actual lines) would be Battaglia Guindon and Uronen then there is Miedema Hopkins and Soto
There really is no 3rd or 4th line.

I know this is a dead horse, but Malhorta is the missing piece that would have solved all the team's problems.

I might suggest finding a player to make the 3rd line Mcnamara Heyes a complete line would be an option and adding a RD and the other obstacle is you really can not make a trade of an OA. If the rumours of Mews wanting out of Ottawa are true, depending on what the rest of the league is looking at, he may be a good choice at a price that wouldn't kill the budget.

As much as Cooper wants to pursue it, he may find that his hands are tied unless you get rid of Lalonde or Heyes.