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Kings sign Patrick Bjorkstrand 1-year ELC

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Bagge said:
Thats what they said in Croatia also when he joined three years ago. He was only there to fill up a quota of youths and he was cheap. I am more worried about his development, than his impact in LA. But ok, how often do you get an offer from NHL when you werent even drafted....
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I would argue it is harder to make a NHL team than a team in Croatia ;) but yes, of course there is a chance. I don't see any undrafted players saying no to this big of an opportunity..
 
DashingDane said:
I would argue it is harder to make a NHL team than a team in Croatia ;) but yes, of course there is a chance. I don't see any undrafted players saying no to this big of an opportunity..
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Off course it is, but one could argue that the jump from swedish second tier to khl is bigger than the jump from khl to NHL ?
 
The Stanley Cup is ours !

We have a huge hole on that 3rd line Center . So it's the one position that we need to fill internally and cost effective. I was hoping Dergachyov or Amadio would take over in 2-3 yrs

Shores numbers are not translating over which is a shame but I wouldn't like to count him out just yet. Maybe this year he takes a step forward
 
The org yanked Lubo out of a European dumpster, so who knows, maybe one of these fellas will shine.

I sorta figured with AEG's presence in Europe we'd see more funny names joining the Kings. Maybe Lombardi's next innovative step is to look for talent outside the OHL.
 
He's good fit for your 4th line. He's a decent scater and good pker, but that's it. He doens't have much offensive upside, but if you play him 8-10 min per game he will do fine.
 
Nothing to lose. They are giving him a chance in a good system and he should have the opportunity to succeed on the Reign.

How much offensive talent is on that roster? Amadio, Kempe, Brodzinski, Backman. Mersch and / or Dowd will probably be in LA.
Bjorkstrand should get top 6 minutes there.
 
Peter James Bond II said:
Nothing to lose. They are giving him a chance in a good system and he should have the opportunity to succeed on the Reign.

How much offensive talent is on that roster? Amadio, Kempe, Brodzinski, Backman. Mersch and / or Dowd will probably be in LA.
Bjorkstrand should get top 6 minutes there.
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He's not offensive player. He can't produce even in lower levels, but he's good on his own kind of player. Hard work and etc.
 
It had to be 1 year due to it being an elc and his age right? This really makes the competition for those final bottom line and 6-7 d-man spots very interesting. First time since maybe 2012 there's been this many question marks heading into camp?
 
KingJoffrey said:
He's not offensive player. He can't produce even in lower levels, but he's good on his own kind of player. Hard work and etc.
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Understood. But 13 goals in the KHL (59 game sched) is pretty good production. 16 was tops on his team. Several players on the current Kings may not score 13 goals in a season there.

Dwight King would be hard pressed to score 13 there. Nolan, Shore, Clifford, Lewis would not break 10 goals there. Brown may score 13...
but maybe not.
 
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Peter James Bond II said:
Understood. But 13 goals in the KHL (59 game sched) is pretty good production. 16 was tops on his team. Several players on the current Kings may not score 13 goals in a season there.

Dwight King would be hard pressed to score 13 there. Nolan, Shore, Clifford, Lewis would not break 10 goals there. Brown may score 13...
but maybe not.
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Ridiculous to say that a proven 15 nhl goal scorer (king) and a proven 30 goal scorer (brown) would struggle to score 13 goals in a lesser league then nhl I haven't looked but i can almost guarantee that anyone going from the nhl to the khl there scoring would go up because they are playing against lesser players for the most part. I would put the khl and ahl on equal ground so shore would have no issue I think nolan and clifford are the only cases you have that might not score 13 goal in the khl
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
Ridiculous to say that a proven 15 nhl goal scorer (king) and a proven 30 goal scorer (brown) would struggle to score 13 goals in a lesser league then nhl I haven't looked but i can almost guarantee that anyone going from the nhl to the khl there scoring would go up because they are playing against lesser players for the most part. I would put the khl and ahl on equal ground so shore would have no issue I think nolan and clifford are the only cases you have that might not score 13 goal in the khl
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KHL is a 60 game schedule. Only 17 players topped 20 goals. The 13 goal mark, 80 players. Point is, that Bjorkstrand has some offensive ability - probably moreso than the majority of the Kings' bottom 6 players.

KHL goal leaders:

http://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/2015-16-khl-players-stats.html
 
Peter James Bond II said:
KHL is a 60 game schedule. Only 17 players topped 20 goals. The 13 goal mark, 80 players. Point is, that Bjorkstrand has some offensive ability - probably moreso than the majority of the Kings' bottom 6 players.

KHL goal leaders:

http://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/2015-16-khl-players-stats.html
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all that says to me is talent level isn't the same as nhl. I looked up a good example the other day in Vladimir Sobotka career under 10 nhl 10 and 18 in his 2 years in the khl
 
Peter James Bond II said:
KHL is a 60 game schedule. Only 17 players topped 20 goals. The 13 goal mark, 80 players. Point is, that Bjorkstrand has some offensive ability - probably moreso than the majority of the Kings' bottom 6 players.

KHL goal leaders:

http://www.quanthockey.com/khl/seasons/2015-16-khl-players-stats.html
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Crazy that a quick glance at that list shows we had 4 of the top 40 goal scorers on that list in our system.

Always wanted to see if azevedo would make it in the nhl or get rag dolled like moller...
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
All that says to me is following rules and attitude is more important then talent level. Lets face it kane has attitude issues.
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I agree. But he was legit terrible in khl. 12 games 0 goals 1 assist and really bad overall. Its a very different game on the big ice. Not saying khl is nhl level at all, but its waaaay ahead of ahl. And the same skillsets are not sought after.
 
Holden Caulfield said:
I agree. But he was legit terrible in khl. 12 games 0 goals 1 assist and really bad overall. Its a very different game on the big ice. Not saying khl is nhl level at all, but its waaaay ahead of ahl. And the same skillsets are not sought after.
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well i disagree with respect to your opinion I think the ahl and khl are close in overall hockey At least close enough to compare things To say nhl players couldn't score 13 goals in the khl is a ridiculous statement imo
 
BigKing said:
DL has no money to lure a top name from over there so he signs Kopitar's line mate from the lock out.
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BigKing said:
He was Kopitar's line mate during the lock out, apparently, so he has at least played wing in the past.
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Bagge said:
Apparently he played with Kopitar during the lockout
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This is the way Fox News works. If you just say it often enough people will start believing this is true. :)

It is not as untrue as one would believe, but I think all three posts were trying to let us know, that Bjorkstrand was a line mate most of the year with ANZE Kopitar. That is not exactly the case.

They played three games together when there were several injuries. That's all.

Bjorkstrand only manged something along the lines of 0.25 points pr. game. That really catches the eye of a reporter, and makes you think... hmm, can that be right? A Kopitar line mate with 0.25 points pr game in Allsvenskan? Naaah, I have to check this out. Not saying it's not possible, but it sure is something to investigate.

And no, he didn't play much with Anze Kopitar. Only those three games. He did play more games with the other Kopitar, Gasper, though. Gasper was also on the line for those three games with Anze and Gasper and Patrick played another 15-20 games together on the third line.

Gasper has played as a mediocre ECHL player for the past three seasons. Still undoubtedly closer to the level of Patrick Bjorkstrand than Anze Kopitar.

Of course you get to play in several lines during a season, but Bjorkstrand mainly played on the third line (I'd say for about 35 games and possibly 3-4 games on second line and three games on the first line, the rest on the fourth line). Sometimes as a center but mostly as a winger before the lockout ended. After the lockout and Anze was gone he mainly switched between the third line center and fourth line center, but also with one or two games as a third line winger.

So well, of course there were many line mates throughout the year, you all know how these things work out, but I wouldn't put it like he was playing on a line with Anze Kopitar without stressing that it was just for a few games.
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
well i disagree with respect to your opinion I think the ahl and khl are close in overall hockey At least close enough to compare things To say nhl players couldn't score 13 goals in the khl is a ridiculous statement imo
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I respect your opinion as well. You even admitted that Clifford and Nolan probably wouldn't score 13 goals in the KHL. Ii do not think Shore or Lewis would either. 13 goals in the KHL is not bad, in a 60 game schedule. It's akin to 18 goals in an 82 game schedule - and yes, the NHL is a higher level of calibre.

My point was that people say that Bjorkstrand really does no have any offensive ability and that's not true. The highest goal scorer on his team had 16. He's a low risk signing, with potential to play on the Kings and be an effective player in the bottom 6.
 
Peter James Bond II said:
I respect your opinion as well. You even admitted that Clifford and Nolan probably wouldn't score 13 goals in the KHL. Ii do not think Shore or Lewis would either. 13 goals in the KHL is not bad, in a 60 game schedule. It's akin to 18 goals in an 82 game schedule - and yes, the NHL is a higher level of calibre.

My point was that people say that Bjorkstrand really does no have any offensive ability and that's not true. The highest goal scorer on his team had 16. He's a low risk signing, with potential to play on the Kings and be an effective player in the bottom 6.
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Not quite right i said these are the only two you could argue about. There game is not to score goals but if given the ice time i could see clifford scoring 10+ My outrage was more about brown and yes even king (as much as i ***** about him i defend him almost as much) would have no issues unless there ice time was cut
 
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